"Iowa has faced 2 better RB's than Haskins"
This is an actual quote from a podcast from Black Heart Gold Pants site (go to 31:50 for the quote).
What does PFF (or OSU defensive line) know?
If they think Hassan Haskins is only the third best RB that they have faced all year, I don't think they will have any idea what hit them after the dust settles on Saturday.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:07 PM ^
And we faced 12 better offenses.
So there.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:12 PM ^
Evander, Charlie says you're the 48th best heavyweight...in Georgia.
CHARLIE COME OUT AND GET YOUR WHOOPIN'!!!!
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:17 PM ^
Regardless, Iowa ain't faced no RB combo as good as ours though. Even on a bum ankle if Corum gets free like he did against OSU he's going to score.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:27 PM ^
Buncha misguided homers. Who cares.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:29 PM ^
One thing I've noticed from opposing fans is that they definitely see Haskins as just a guy. It's not just anti-Michigan bias either.
I think there is an obsession with speed and home run plays that underrates just how effective Haskins is. I notice myself do this too with other teams btw. If a team has a real home run hitter at RB I get nervous, but if it's more of a between the tackles guy who's a load to bring down, it feels easier to stop. "Just wrap up, be in the right spots, and he's not gonna beat us by himself." It seems like easier to accomplish than dealing with a speedster who can outrun your D.
But it does seem like a bad bias at this point and watching Hassan makes me realize that (tbh anyone who has watched Marshawn Lynch should realize that). He has enough burst to break big chunks even if he doesn't get to the end zone. He's capable of falling forward for 1-2 yards after contact if you hit him with a lineman, particularly from the side. He's capable of grinding for 3-4 even if he gets hit by an LB. And if you are sending a CB or a safety at him you need multiple guys or he will drag you for 5+ (or hurdle you lol).
But people really underrate that because they are more scared of 60 yard TD's. In a way this applies to WR's too. Guys who get open underneath through savvy and consistently gain YAC that doesn't result in TD's are less scary than guys who take the top off the D. I knew Jaxson Smith-Njigba was good for example, but I was more worried about Olave and Wilson. There is a comfort to being able to fight another day, but sometimes that comfort can be illusory (and in the case of both Haskins and Smith-Njigba, I think it is).
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^
I think those Iowa people need to watch the Michigan-ohio game again.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:29 PM ^
Good thing Haskins isn't our only offensive weapon then, huh.
I mean they lost to a very one-dimensional Wisconsin team. They beat ISU because of turnovers more than anything else.
So even if this is true (and it's very debatable), Iowa has a lot more to worry about than just Haskins. Michigan is the most complete offense they have faced all year.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:56 PM ^
At Iowa, they tend to think in one dimension. It's all that endless terrain stretching before them, with little in between.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:18 PM ^
(I think that would be two dimensions but your point stands!)
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
Uh-oh, we're in deep now. I hope we don't have to face blackheartfancypants on Saturday.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
yeah, my ex wife says she's had better than me too..... of course she has volume on her side
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:53 PM ^
I listened to their podcast today to get a better sense of Iowa's personnel, and let me tell you how thankful I am for Brian, Seth, and Alex. These Iowa dudes literally didn't know anything about Michigan, and were serving such weak analysis.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:01 PM ^
I think they're under the impression that Corum has been demoted as opposed to injured for the past couple of weeks. This along with the 7-year Dax Hill comment show that some of these podcasts do almost no opposition research.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
Give it to him twice!
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:00 PM ^
MAYBE
but have they faced a better TEAM?
I think not
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:01 PM ^
This Iowa message board is advertising Rose Bowl trips.
I may be mistaken, but isn't Iowa only assured of a trip to Pasadena if they win tomorrow? If they lose, I thought OSU would probably get the nod. If so, this is pretty cheeky.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
Ehhh, the B1G West is just a glorified crew.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^
Will be a tough game but we can do it.
Beat Iowa.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:28 PM ^
I've seen Iowa fans beat their chests about how formidable and improved the team is after their loss to Wisconsin. They are on a 4 game win streak-- against NW, Minn, Illinois, and Nebraska-- who are a combined 12-24 in league play. And it's not like Iowa blew anyone out, either.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:29 PM ^
Having now listened to the entire podcast, in the end, the two guys broadcasting it are just hopeful Hawkeye fans, neither predicting outright success for their team, believing that the Wolverines will win but may not cover the 10 point spread and exceed the 43 point over/under.
Their contention is that Michigan's offense isn't overpowering, that the big win over Ohio State will diminish its performance on both sides of the ball and that winning turnover differential will mean everything for an unlikely Iowa upset. One guy predicts that Michigan wins 29-13, the other offered the prospect of an Iowa victory if everything goes right and the game is close in the fourth quarter.
They believe heavily in the Iowa defense, its ability to create turnovers and that creative scoring opportunities presented by all three facets of their team will keep the outcome from getting out of hand and, if things fall their way, lead to victory.
All in all, kind of what you expect them to say, except it was surrounded by a lot of hopeful bullshit without any statistical evidence to support their POV or conclusions about the varying effectiveness of Michigan's attack on offense and defense.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:42 PM ^
Michigan has faced 11 offenses better than Iowa's, so I'll take my chances here.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:50 PM ^
There are an oddly large amount of optimistic iowa fans on youtube, fb, etc. I get being excited but there are a freakish number of "Iowa will win!" facebook youtube videos.
Go Blue...kick their ass!
I'm starting to get angry...which means absolutely nothing to the teams performance lol.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:50 PM ^
Define "better"
Faster? Probably. More elusive, probably that too.
Able to smash thought your defense for tons of yards after contact and slowly grind you to dust over an entire game? Yeah, they haven't faced ANYONE like Haskins.
Bring it on.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^
Hassan Haskins is the manifestation of a RB from Jim Harbaugh's imagination.
Like one of Harbaugh's favorite players ever, Frank Gore, he takes away your will for 4 quarters.
Not only do DB's not want to tackle him by the 4th quarter, LBs too start shying away from contact and making weak arm tackles.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^
Pretty confused why all these Iowa fans think they have an upper hand in this game somehow. Just grasping at straws because we've played them close and have lost to them in the past
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:09 PM ^
Iowa: allow UM to introduce you to Thunder and Lightning. Arguable without question about Hassan being the best back they have seen. But have they faced a 2 headed monster this season? Hell, a 3rd head is starting to pop up now.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:48 PM ^
All, Shoonmaker, Johnson, Sainristil, Anthony, Wilson
More like a nine headed monster.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:13 PM ^
Funny coming from a team that has the worst rushing defense in the conference!
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:24 PM ^
Northwestern??
Iowa is third in the conference in rushing yard allowed per game.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:23 PM ^
so the complaint is Iowa is 1 off. The horror.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:29 PM ^
Id take Haskins over ANYONE in college football.
If they want to keep giving him juice, ok then.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:38 PM ^
If they’re talking about Allen from Wisconsin, probably not a good sign considering he went over 100 yards and they lost to Wisconsin by 20
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^
Uh. Okay.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:51 PM ^
Good. Some more fuel for the fire. When he gets 4-5 yards every play after first contact, let's see how their DB's are feeling.
Not to mention some Corum and Edwards action to add to the mix.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:02 PM ^
Like, "two RBs stitched together to make one super Frankenstein RB-better-than-Haskin"? Is that what they mean? Because that would be kind of badass.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:26 PM ^
Perfect.
Hope that the Iowa defensive players have the same mindset and go into the game believing that too.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:42 PM ^
Similar mindset that ohio had last week.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:32 PM ^
Is this the thread where we get mad that someone on the internet has an opinion?
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:40 PM ^
They may change their mind after tomorrow.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:50 PM ^
Of all the things Iowa should do, underestimating our running game would not be on the list.
December 3rd, 2021 at 4:14 PM ^
They're nervous and making up shit. Haskins is gonna run all over them, and their tune will change post game.
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:03 PM ^
I’ll take Haskins thanks!
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:07 PM ^
I dunno, fuckin slander if you ask me
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December 3rd, 2021 at 5:30 PM ^
Alright I was bored and actually listened to the Podcast. Yes they did say that about the RB's but they were trying to find some positives for this game. Both picked Michigan to cover the spread and win with the possibility of a blowout there. Had a lot of really good things to say about this Michigan team and especially the defense. Basically they're hoping Michigan is emotionally drained from The Game and don't come full blast because they know were a terrible matchup for Iowa.
Seemed like a decent couple of guys and I would definitely shoot the shit about football over a few brews with 'em.
December 3rd, 2021 at 5:48 PM ^
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:22 PM ^
Bullshit.
They are facing the two best backs they have faced in the same game and the best back catching the ball out of the backfield.
And the best fucking OL.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:19 PM ^
Hassan, hurdle these fools
December 4th, 2021 at 9:08 AM ^
Disrespekt!
Nah, this is fine. I am not upset that their fanbase is charting a path to victory.
Immediately after saying this he goes on to compliment the overall M running game.