Starting Tomorrow No Fans AT Big Ten Tournament
Neutral court indeed. Very neutral.
Advantage...Michigan, Nunez could finally go off
Nailed it!
Pencil us in for a 4 seed next week.
Or the overall number one seed!
6 tops. We aren't good enough to win 4 games against the Big 10's best, this season.
We are without crowd-influenced officiating.
Carstensen and Wymer don't need crowd influencing...
6 tops. We aren't good enough to win 4 games against the Big 10's best, this season.
I think we are all about to realize that seeing a lot of other people care about something is a big part of the reason why we care about it. My guess is that those expecting big ratings for March Madness just on TV are going to be in for a surprise. I just became a lot more interested in the Players Championship this weekend. Not commenting on these decisions either way, but hoops with no fans will be a difficult watch. I feel bad for Xavier and Teske, Winston too. These guys have given everything for their schools and this is not an appropriate way for them to go out.
That's where I'm at on this. When Michigan is playing I will probably still watch but I'm going to have a hard time watching an empty arena while some teams like Creighton and Baylor play. The different ebb and flow of the game while the different teams fans go crazy is what makes March Madness what it is during the games. When other teams fans in the bracket choose sides and cheer on the easier team for their team to beat. Its gonna lose all of that
Maybe they'll use CGI to add fans to the empty seats. Either that over 15,000 cardboard cutouts in the seats.
...which will very closely resemble the non-Maize Rage sections of the lower bowl at Crisler.
sorry for the downvotes. I lol'd
No worries—Art Van could buy up the seats and add covers...oh wait...
If you remember the Michigan/Oregon game in the Sweet Sixteen in an arena dominated by Kansas fans who didn't give a shit, it'll be kind of like that. But worse.
Even in that one though, Kansas fans were probably cheering against one or the other at certain points, thinking it would make it easier on Kansas to play said team. Or when you get fans in the arena where they play different brackets in the same arena and you get Ohio area fans for example cheering against Michigan. Or games in Detroit where Michigan fans cheer against Ohio St. Refs call games according to crowds at points as well, that'll change too. Lots of little things that make it March Madness will be gone.
Not really. I was there, and the Kansas fans weren't -- they didn't really show up until toward the end of the Michigan/Oregon game, and they didn't really get that invested in the outcome.
It was really weird -- worse, even, than the Michigan / Montana game in Wichita (the one before Poole's shot vs. Houston -- I didn't go to the one last year). And that one was a pretty bad atmosphere.
I think it's appropriate, we need to curb the spread of Covid-19; perhaps 'appropriate' doesn't convey what you meant?
It's going to be a unique setting, different, unexpected. Nobody signed up for this, but it is fair; all teams will be subject to the decision. I'm really interested in how it's going to play out. We do play well on neutral sites. I think this is going to benefit us.
Just a matter of time until some college players get it and they cancel the whole thing.
DON'T BET YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR MONEY BACK.
can you explain your last sentence a bit?
I am saying if you bet on the games, force majeure may allow them to keep your money even if the game is cancelled.
well I've never heard that happening before. sounds like it's important to know the policy prior to placing bets. luckily I have not made any NCAA champion bets yet, but I have placed an NBA championship bet.
Add a comma after bet and it should make sense.
It needs a semicolon, actually.
I think one of two things will happen. They will realize they are being ridiculous and fans will be allowed in or they will cancel the tournament. It won’t be played without a crowd.
“Hey Xavier and Cassius, we don’t care enough about YOU to give up TV money, but we care enough about everybody else to watch you guys exchange virus sweat so we get to get our TV money.”
Give me a break. Not happening. And these decisions could have irrevocable consequences for college basketball.
I will bet that they won't cancel the tournament for lack of fans, rather due to public safety concerns.
The risk of one of the players having it is extremely small relative to the risk of one of thousands of fans... the risk of a fan spreading to others is a lot higher than a player. One fan could infect 10 others with just one cough. Touch a railing in a high traffic area and dozens could get it.
I find it ironic that one of the people who is spending the most time on the board decrying the hysteria surrounding the virus has become dare I say hysterical about its impact on sports.
Maybe step back from the keyboard and get some perspective. The reason to not have fans is because crowds make this virus way more likely to spread. The atmosphere of the tournament will be worse, but it is reasonable to avoid needlessly infecting people with COVID-19. Take a moment to consider people in your family or friends that may have seriously compromised immune systems or health problems. Have some empathy for the very real concerns people have.
For real. No one is going as nuts as ijohnb here, who claims to be the voice of reason.
No fans at any BIG winter or spring event as all in fact.
College basketball will return to looking like an amateur sport starting tomorrow.
Will free up some time for them to tweet inappropriate things at the student athletes.
Dang. Me and my GF are planning to be there for tomorrow and friday.
Family can attend so that means Wagners mom will be there hopefully! Cant lose one of our Big Ten Tourney good luck charms due to stupid corona
as will mamma trice and her yodeling, sigh....
I doubt it. European travel ban in effect.
Will be interesting to see if the spread of the virus slows over the next two weeks how they react. I could see them slowly lifting these restrictions and the final four go on as normal , as well as sporting events at all levels. I think the not knowing how long they plan on having these policies in place is a big cause of frustration for many. Also makes one wonder what they are being told that the general public does not have knowledge of.
1. it's certainly not go to slow down over the next few weeks. This is a much longer term situation.
2. you think the NCAA knows something different than every other decision maker that has also placed crowd restrictions across the world?
This is looking like a 3 to 6 months+ situation with tens to hundreds of thousands dying in the United States. It's just getting started.
And I'm really not trying to stir up hysteria. Like a lot of folks here, I thought this was overblown, but listening to Nicholas Christakis on Sam Harris' podcast and Michael Osterholm's conversation with Joe Rogan changed my mind pretty quickly.
There's no chance of this thing slowing down in the US over the next few weeks.
Didn't the Chinese basketball league just announce that they were resuming their season? So it must have slowed down in China after a couple of months. So why exactly is there "no chance of this thing slowing down in the US over the next few weeks"? And have "tens to hundreds of thousands" died in China, the country where the outbreak started and has a much higher population, vastly inferior healthcare, and much higher rates of smoking than the US? Last I checked there were just over 3 thousand deaths in China. Is that "tens to hundreds of thousands"? What, exactly, do you gain by being such a panicky fearmonger?
COVID-19 slowed down in China because China was pretty aggressive in trying to stop the its spread (link). The US has not been so aggressive.
March 11th, 2020 at 10:10 PM ^
"What, exactly, do you gain by being such a panicky fearmonger?"
I'm just listening to the experts and not exaggerating their predictions at all. What else can I do? What reason do I have to be more optimistic? Please take an hour of your time to listen to either of the conversations with experts I posted above. Or both. They paint a pretty similar picture.
This is just beginning to spread, and we obviously aren't taking it as seriously as the Chinese government. I would be happy to revisit this conversation in a few weeks and see how things are going. I hope you're right about it clearing up so soon, but it seems near impossible.
March 11th, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
Then you just are ridiculous. Tens of thousands dying...its already halted in China and they have nowhere near "tens of thousands" dying.
God get a fucking grip people. Be smart and shut the fuck up being stupid.
And you sir, get the fuck out of the left lane.
March 11th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^
The flu kills tens of thousands every year, and this virus seems to be slightly or significantly more deadly. Why is it unfathomable to you that tens of thousands could die from it?
"Be smart and shut the fuck up being stupid."
Great advice, thanks.
Commence the worst March madness in my lifetime. This sucks.
I know right? Why do all the bad things keep happening to you?!
Beilein looks great. Love that guy.
Just like an MSU football game