OT: My house is officially divided
End of last week, we attended orientation, and my MGoDaughter got officially enrolled. She is now a Hawkeye. Move In date is set for late August.
The one saving grace is, she doesn't care about sports, so October's game won't be weird between us. I just get to be proud that she's going to a great school (and hopefully a world class medical school if/when she gets in). I'll probably encourage her to go to a football game or two, just to part of the "Iowa Wave" for the kids at the Children's Hospital.
Now to figure out how to pay for it....*shudder*
I got no beef with Iowa, they do well with what they have. Christ, when is the last time we beat them? 2005?
Anyway, congrats to your daughter!
Hoke has the last W in 2012, 42-17.
We don't have a combined 42 points against them since.
I don't remember that game at all, even though I think I was there.
Denard ran for a billion yards despite his right arm dying against Nebraska weeks earlier. He also exploded some poor Iowa safety's soul on the sideline.
I mean ... if you told me that in 2019, after 4 years of Harbaugh, Hoke would still be the last Michigan coach to have beaten Iowa and OSU ... I wouldn't have believed you for a second but I guess here we are.
With you on OSU...but the Iowa stat is a little misleading. Harbaugh has coached Michigan in one game against Iowa. 2016, at Iowa, 13-14. Would like to have won that one, but it was close on the road. Overall, Michigan is 4-6 in the last 10 vs. Iowa. Yuck.
I have a steak with Iowa. Omaha!
I did ROTC at Michigan. My wife is an alumni of Ohio State. My 7 year old daughter however loves Iowa athletics. I don't have a clue to why she does, but when she sees that Hawkeye logo on the TV during football or basketball games, she is immediately engaged and roots for them. I guess I'll take this scenario over her being a fan of wife's school though, or MSU or PSU.
I can understand your daughter's thinking. Iowa does have a good logo. I bought a Hawkeye hat years ago because of it.
So I guess my mind is on the same level as a seven-year-old.
Not a big surprise, really.
They do have an awesome logo and color scheme.
They actually asked for, and received permission from the Pittsburgh Steelers to copy their uniforms. Since the Steelers went with those weird skinny numbers Iowa actually looks more like the Steelers than the Steelers.
Awesome logo? Iowa? It looks like a big yellow blotch, and no matter how long I look at it I still can't see the bird. (It is supposed to be a bird, right?)
The bird is obvious to me - but that's just me.
Another thing I see in the logo is that it is fairly similarly shaped to the state as a whole.
The "beak" lines up with that portion of the state (between Dubuque and the Quad Cities) where the Mississippi River (and thus Iowa as awhole) bulges out to the east.
Maybe she just doesn't want to hurt either of your feelings. I've joked that this will be the fate of my grandson (whose Dad is a Buckeye fan) He will probably love Texas or Iowa just to deal with the competing indoctrination forces in his life.
Many children love Ohio State until they are toilet trained. The freedom to go to the bathroom literally anywhere is a big draw for many 1-2 year olds. The phase usually passes, however...though sometimes not. #coolerpoopers
If you're really in Iowa and that's in-state tuition, it's not like you're on the hook to pay for Stanford or something...
Even for an in-state resident, you are looking at $25k/year for total cost of attendance per the university.
I am sure Wolverine in Iowa 68 wouldn't mind you, and I am sure you wouldn't mind either, chipping in a little, especially since it isn't for Stanford or something.
Loans.
I've paid for 4 degrees with little assistance from my parents. My wife's got two.
She'll have a lifetime to pay them back. And if she does something professional, she'll do so without problems.
wait, you mean that one can take out loans for school, get a job with the degree earned from aforementioned loans, and then PAY THEM BACK WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT BAILOUT?! Preposterous.
/s /nopolitics
My grad school loan will be paid off in ~5 years, can't wait to have that $400 a month back!
Just my opinion as someone just out of college for two years, but I don't think it's fiscally responsible to advise anyone going to college right now to take out even more loans to go to school just to cross a state border.
I don't know. Sounds like a recruiting violation.
Hmmm, someone should start a thread on that, don't you think???
Dammit!! I wanted to say that!
Congrats man. Very good school.
Other than Ferent’z game management, Iowa is easily the least offensive opponent in the B1G.
Wait until Epenesa shucks one of our OTs and runs full speed into Patterson. I think their QB Stanley is overrated and benefited greatly from two first round TE's: he's exactly the kind of player who looks for security blankets underneath and is willing to take more risks with a receiver with a large catching radius. Their offense won't do much, but if Michigan has a bad day and they get some breaks (two bs roughing the kicker penalties), they're an 8-4 team that can cause problems.
But agree with the overall sentiment - be happy and proud she's at Iowa, have good-natured fun with the B1G sports thing.
Congrats....that's awesome for your daughter.
For a short time I had a spouse and some step-children that are from cbus, your divided house is much more agreeable.
In-state tuition makes it worthwhile. I live in Florida and both my children went in-state. They got Bright Futures scholarships and attended the University of West Florida and the University of Central Florida. I would never have been able to afford The University of Michigan cost for either.
How many 4-year state universities are in FL? Must have the most in the country. Seems a new one becomes a powerhouse in FB or BB each year passing...
Lots - the State Colleges have 4-year programs, too.
Wow! Very interesting.
That's one of my worries about moving out of state. With her LSA scholarship, and the fact that Mrs. Hatter doesn't work, my daughter's tuition is costing us almost nothing.
I doubt many other state schools offer that level of financial aid.
congrats on daughter and good luck to her with school and hopefully med school beyond that.
going to iowa is not a 'house divided'. had she gone to rutgers, though, that'd a been a street fight, boy howdy!
Fence the Garden!
Other than being a PITA to play against, I have no issues with Iowa.
There are much less tolerable schools in the conference.
My son tried to root for osu back in the day. A few nights sleeping outdoors and he came around.
/s
It wasn't the camping that did it, it was that his outhouse consisted of a propped open cooler on the grass.
Am I right?
Bluinohio, I was all set to upvote you until I saw the /s.
Our house is also divided between the same exact teams. I'm an Iowa alum and STILL root for Michigan over them. Something about those winged helmets..
Congrats on the daughter's acceptance... but maybe you can nudge her towards UM for grad school.
I'm dating a girl that went to Ohio State. Can't decide if I should keep it going or not.
Did she graduate? Asking for a friend...
DO NOT>...... that was divorce #2 for me
If my kids go to a Big Ten school besides Michigan, Iowa and NW are the two I'd definitely be okay with.
I'd be very happy with Wisconsin, too. One of the better public universities in America.
Think what you will of their sports teams, but it is a great school.
And as far as I’m concerned, Madison is the second-best college town in the B1G.
It tried to get my daughter to consider Wisconsin. We visited on pretty much the coldest, windiest day of the year. She wanted nothing to do with it. She chose Syracuse, literally the snowiest city in the US (which seems hard to believe, but is true).
Houghton would like a word with you.
(I'm assuming you're talking about snowiest college towns)
Ha. Good friend of mine went to Tech. I visited him in freaking February. Won't ever do that again. (On the bright side, it's a school tradition that all the seniors buy a keg that they share with their classmates, so kegs were EVERYWHERE and you could literally help yourself.
Congrats to your daughter - great school! My parents were honest with me and told me they couldn't afford college for me. I was on the hook for it with loans (and what few scholarships I could garner). It makes me wonder who can afford tuition for their kids, and hopeful that I can do the same for my kids one day...maybe.
My wife and I have had very similar conversations with each other. We're a long way off from kids having to go off to college, but barring a major political shift in this country, college isn't going to get any cheaper anytime soon. Especially if you want to go to a place like Michigan and you're from out of state. Not everyone is going to be able to cough up ~200k just for one kid's degree.
I think you're going to see a steady revival of trade schools in the coming years. Far cheaper than a four-year university so you're out of debt much more quickly, you're in school for less time, you learn a technical, marketable skill that has a defined career path, and usually you end up getting paid pretty darn well after a few years of apprenticeship.