October 12th, 2013 at 10:50 PM ^
Rich Rod's horrendous OL recruiting blah blah blah. That's just noise to me at this point. We have 17 OL on the roster, all of whom are more talented than anyone on Akron's, Towson's, Buffalo's, Louisiana-Lafayette's rosters. Make it work.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:46 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 9:55 PM ^
top 20 teams. Stop blaming the coaches when the players don't have the talent.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
I mean Fitz did run for 1041 yards in 2011 but I just I just I just don't know anymore
October 12th, 2013 at 11:12 PM ^
In 2011, teams had to focus on Denard.
They could be forced to focus on Devin to the same extent, but the coaches don't want run him that much.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:05 PM ^
Did you read the names of the teams he just compared us to? Akron, UConn, PSU. I could add Buffalo, Towson, Maryland, Louisiana-Lafayette and other to the list of teams that have performed far better than us this year in the run game.
Please don't make talent excuses. Good god.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:46 PM ^
I wonder if MGoBlog will explode tonight.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:48 PM ^
Nobody is getting fired. DB isn't going to fire Hoke. After all Hoke, "gets it". Hoke isn't going to fire his boys either. So... there it is.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^
The problem is what does he "get"? How to mismanage a football game?
October 12th, 2013 at 9:48 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^
You want the athletic director to start hiring and firing assistant football coaches?
October 12th, 2013 at 9:48 PM ^
the coaching job, or lack thereof, was painful to watch. i have watched Michigan play "not to lose" for years. we have some of the best athletes in the country and the coaches refuse to use them. lets run, run, run and run some more!!!! the coaches deserved to lose this game...the kids did not.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:49 PM ^
I can not believe that we did not give our players a chance to win the game. NO! Brandon Gibbons does not equal PLAYERS, he is one player and although a loss is tough to stomach, it is easier to stomach when you give the entire team a chance to win the game not just one player. That loss is 100%on our choaching staff, at least give the players that put in this situation a chance to make plays. This is the first occurance that I can say I am ashamed to have Brady Hoke as our head coach!! I hope it is the last!! I still believe in him but he needs to do some soul searching after this game tonight!
October 12th, 2013 at 9:50 PM ^
Michigan coaching staff... "It's llike, where are your testicles?"
October 12th, 2013 at 9:50 PM ^
I certainly did not expect gibbons to miss a hat trick of field goals.
They played to their kicker who made his last 16 in a row before today.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:54 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 9:52 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 11:15 PM ^
A routine five yard pass to Dileo in the slot in the last 2 minutes of regulation would have done it.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^
Borges has been shit for 2 1/2 seasons and he continues to refuse to adapt to his personnel. If this is really Michigan fergodsakes Hoke needs to grow a pair and get rid of this joke of an offensive coordinator. #Outrage
October 12th, 2013 at 10:02 PM ^
I think you're being too kind to Borges.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:54 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 9:55 PM ^
sad thing is, they really needed this win. There don't appear to be many others on the horizon.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
I could not agree anymore with this post.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^
A Carr era coach that plays not to win. Deal with it people, you got your guy in Hoke. More of the same for years to come.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:09 PM ^
Predictable playcalling, predictable results.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:58 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^
You really need to point out to me where you see this, "right direction".. I see a team with soft O and D-Lines. Hardly any playmakers on either side of the football. How many recruiting classes does it take 4? 5? 18?
October 12th, 2013 at 10:20 PM ^
I can tell you how many it doesn't take, it doesn't take two or fewer, and that's exactly where we are at: two classes. Do you understand that we've taken in all the offensive lineman, and many highly rated? The lines are piss poor right now, and the fact that we could move the ball without Lewan was a complete miracle, but I'm quite certain Hoke & Co. understand this and that's the reason they've been loading up on offensive and defensive linemen.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
Interesting that a walk-on, is starting over all of these highly rated recruits you speak of. Sooner or later, that excuse is going to run out.
October 12th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
Can someone please give me one good reason why we should? What have we seen from the offense from the last two years to suggest progress? If you stack the box and dare the throw, he'll line it up and try to run to prove he can. Problem is? The line can't run block for crap. He, apparently, works extensively with the QBs everyday. Really? Because if he were capable of anything there you'd think Morris would've been able to do something other than hand the ball off when literally everyone in the stadium knew that was coming.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:00 PM ^
I am normally against this "Fire coach X" crap, but yea, the O-line coach is terrible. Gardner was flushed by every team we have played.
Mattison in my view has done a good job with the defense. The secondary needs a little work, and we could use a bit more pass rush, but let's be honest, once Mattison stops playing "prevent" defense, and dials up bitzes and actual plays, we do pretty darn good.
Hoke needs to tell Borges and Funk they gotta shape up. We cannot have this level of mediocrity.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^
We're just going to get the same B.S. from Hoke, that not winning a Big10 championship is unacceptable and that they have to coach better and blah, blah, blah. Nothing will change on his staff and we will continue to be a mediocre team.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:03 PM ^
Former Michigan fan here, but I gave up when they hired Hoke in 2011, and this is why. To me, it was essentially just re-hiring LLLLoyd Carr.
I couldn't allow myself to go through all of the anger/sadness I felt under LLLoyd. It wasn't fair to me or to my loved ones.
If you were shocked by today's result, you haven't been watching Michigan football long enough.
Only when mediocrity becomes unacceptable will things start to change. I look forward to that day, but I don't foresee it happening any time soon.
Anyone really think Hoke can beat Urban on even a semi-consistent (2/5) basis?
October 12th, 2013 at 10:03 PM ^
I hope we give the "Lane Kiffin" treatment to Borges: fire his ass before he gets back to town. And take Funk with him. The entire time he's been at Michigan I can think of two games he actually called well (Nebraska and OSU in '11) and has been a dumpster full of tires on fire the entire damn time since then. HOW CAN YOU NOT RUN THE BALL FOR POSITIVE YARDS WITH TWO NFL DRAFT PICKS AT THE TACKLE POSITION, ONE OF WHOM WILL PROBABLY GO IN THE TOP TEN.
And sitting there turtle-ing...Lloyd Carr?? IS THAT YOU?! Borges: GET THE F*CK OUT. STACKED BOX? BETTER RUN FOR A LOSS OF TWO. FIRST AND TEN? BETTER RUN STRETCH LEFT. 2ND AND 12? TIME TO RUN PLAY ACTION, SINCE OUR RUN GAME IS SO DAMN GOOD. THIRD AND 7? ALL DEEP ROUTES SO GARDNER HAS TO SCRAMBLE FOR 5 YARDS.
GET. THE. F*CK. OUT.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^
I would like to see a game by game analysis of our first down playcalling. How many runs? How many runs for no gain? How many for a loss? I'd bet it's pretty telling.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^
Some one on twitter did it after this game....for this game at least Gardner runs and passes on 1st downs yielded like 8 yds a play, Fitz runs yeilded around 0
October 12th, 2013 at 10:59 PM ^
Michigan ran 35 1st down plays Saturday.
They ran Gardner 20% of the time for 9.1 yards per play
They threw 31% of the time for 15.1 yards per play
They ran Toussaint 43% of the time for 1.8 yards per play.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:03 PM ^
Lots of times, you can point to the cause of a loss as being a deficiency in one facet of the game: poor execution, turnovers, a bad play call or other coaching decision. Sometimes it's a bad break and the other team takes advantage.
But there's plenty of causes here: holes in the offensive line, mental mistakes at crucial points in the game, turnovers, overly conservative play calling, players not executing when they need to, e.g., Gibbons, to name a few there. In the end, I have to put most of the responsibility on the coaching, particularly in OT. There were multiple instances where it looked like U-M was just wasting downs. I understand the need for ball security - you don't want to give up a big turnover during OT - but we kept running Fitz when it was clear he wasn't going anywhere. At all. Get the yards - even if you want to kick, make it as easy as possible for your kicker. And who knows? Maybe another opportunity to get a TD will open up.
We'll have to reset some expectations for this team this year. The games against Akron and UConn were maybe more indicative of U-M's problems than we wanted to think. Michigan has been playing with fire all season and now they got burned.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:04 PM ^
The coaching staff did not have a great night but you can't blame the coaches for 3 TOs leading to 14 points and 3 missed FG's.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:11 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 10:04 PM ^
Let's face it: Hoke is not a top tier coach. Plain and simple. After 3 years, this team does not look or play like a well-coached team. No excuses about youth: Penn State's qb is a freshman. Other teams do wonders with freshman. The Akron and UConn games were clear indicators that Hoke -- as nice a guy as he is -- is not up to snuff.
Stop drinking the kool-aid gang. Michigan might be "back," but "back" was never really that good compared to other programs in the last 6 decades.
Don't tell me that after 3 years, a team coached by Miles, Saban, Meyer, Peterson, etc. would perform the way that Michigan is playing this season. Hey Brandon, you get what you pay for. Stop shovelling out the "Tradition" and "Michigan Man" crap and get ready to shell out some big bucks for a real coach with a proven track record. Our "Tradition" is that we've won one national championship in about 60 years. Keep your tradition. It's time to try something new. Change is good. Pull a Pat Haden, read the writing on the wall, and make a change. That's how the really good programs do it.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:08 PM ^
While we're at it: that's how the search before that went too! Rich Rod was the third choice.
We're lucky we landed as well as we did. With the recruiting, hoke/hope springs eternal at least!
October 12th, 2013 at 10:09 PM ^
I agree with this line of thought.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
Yup. Michigan fans need to realize and accept that the "great program" label is a complete farce. Only then will the changes necessary start to occur. I'm not holding my breath.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
October 12th, 2013 at 10:15 PM ^
Brandon doesn't care what the fan base thinks. He has the power, and Hoke is his hire. He has a big enough ego, that he will hold on to Hoke no matter what. No changes will be made.
We are doomed, and there is no hope. Mike Debord is back calling the offense, and we are back to the Jim Hermann "soft zone". As a fan, all you can do is suck it up. There is no other choice.
October 12th, 2013 at 10:50 PM ^
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