Today’s harbaugh reading
Neg if you want. My insider friends thought contract would be done by now but it appears Jim is serious about nfl. Biggest caveat is complete control including $$$ on players. Only one likely to give that is Las Vegas. Bisaccia interview is crucial- hope he crushes it.
He loves Michigan but believes only Nd has potentially harder issues w recruiting given school, academia, administration and AND fanbase expectations.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:18 AM ^
Ok, so nothing new. Thanks for the update.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:25 AM ^
I don’t think anyone knew he was looking for control over $$$ as well. That’s a steep hurdle for an nfl team. Mccaskeys will never do that - Chicago is out. Literally this is 99.9% down to Las Vegas
but continue to make dickhead comments if you’d like.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:34 AM ^
More speculation. How in the hell could he make demands about player $$ without interviewing? He hasn't interviewed anywhere.
January 20th, 2022 at 7:22 PM ^
C'mon, while this may be speculation, you know interviews are a formality. His people can 100 percent be talking to their people without an interview.
That's how they keep it hush hush. That's how these things are done. You think Lincoln Riley's people hadn't been talking to USC before he lost Bedlam and that they really got the deal done in a couple hours the next morning? Absolutely not.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^
CALM DOWN!
January 20th, 2022 at 10:20 AM ^
Your "insider friends." Past experience has said that about three people in the world actually know what Harbaugh is thinking. Apparently, you're friends with all of them. Good on you!
January 20th, 2022 at 12:32 PM ^
Having a subscription to The Athletic means all of the “insiders” are your friends.
I hope this guy never goes to a strip club.
January 20th, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^
Nothing from any subscription. I posted the text exchange.
I don’t need to go to the strip club. I guess you do- hope it’s in a state where you can get your money’s worth. Sounds like you need it.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:15 PM ^
Relax homie, I’m just busting balls. Quit being such a bitch.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^
Thank you for permission to make dickhead comments.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^
Obligatory.
January 20th, 2022 at 11:28 AM ^
Just click the "insert image" button....
January 20th, 2022 at 11:40 AM ^
You can type the text message and put quotes around the message indicating it’s the text.
January 20th, 2022 at 12:39 PM ^
lighten up Frances - put up a useless post deal with it
January 20th, 2022 at 1:11 PM ^
I agree with you doubleblue. There a lot of posters on this site, with myriad points, that post obnoxious, rude and inappropriate comments all the time. Its almost as if their points make them think their posts are entitled to a presumption of legitimacy. Its a joke.
January 20th, 2022 at 3:05 PM ^
Well, here's my dickhead comment as requested.
If you said to me, Harbaugh is interested in the NFL for the love of football and coaching at the highest level, winning a Super Bowl--if it's put to me like that, that's something I could see.
But, a lot of these "insider rumors" come off a lot more whiny, and that's not really Jim's nature, I feel. The UM job is too hard, the fanbase is too tough, recruiting is too unfair, the NIL structure is too restrictive, and whine whine whine. These are the sentiments of someone who wants to be on 3rd base without hitting a triple. Jim's not that guy.
I don't discount that UM Head Football Coach is a tough job, but I feel that Jim Harbaugh is a competitor at his core. Following from that, and from how much he seems to be enjoying coaching here, I don't think he'd leave for a bunch of whiny-sounding reasons (unless he was having some serious family/health crisis). So, all of these takes don't really seem to be coming from Harbaugh at all, but, rather, seem to be filtered through a prism of fan fiction and what outsider-y people consuming lots of insider-y info every day project onto the situation.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:34 PM ^
Let’s be honest. As an athlete it really isn’t that hard to go to michigan.
1. Lest we forget rashan Gary
2. Stanford is harder to get in for football players.
3. So is northwestern.
we are every bit the football factory as other schools we compete with.
October 1st, 2022 at 9:35 PM ^
solid delusion
January 20th, 2022 at 7:12 PM ^
January 20th, 2022 at 9:19 AM ^
Did your insiders forget he coached at Stanford?
January 20th, 2022 at 9:27 AM ^
No. Stanford fanbase does not have the same expectations as Michigan. Not even close!!!!!
January 20th, 2022 at 9:31 AM ^
You said issues with recruiting
January 20th, 2022 at 9:33 AM ^
I think the "fan expectations" part of the sentence is carry a lot of the water there, and probably makes the sentence true. How frequently is Stanford was expected to finish top 10, much less win a national title?
January 20th, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^
While that may be true, I'd also argue that the academic expectations are higher than at Michigan. I'm not saying ours aren't high, but Stanford gonna Stanford.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^
He also coached at Stanford as an up and coming coach. He had only been at San Diego. Having a perennial winner and super bowl appearance with the 49ers and his tenure at Michigan completely changed his resume and leverage.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:20 AM ^
with complete credit to HateSparty, who posted this earlier today in the 'feldman' thread and people need to read this. all that follows is from him:
January 20th, 2022 at 5:54 AM ^
I had a conversation with a booster yesterday that said the feeling in his circle is that Warde and JH were waiting on finalizing the deal until after the Anderson settlement and Schlissel (says it was a known secret?) were addressed. Schlissel was a distraction to regents and the optics of a big contract agreement prior to or on heels of this is touchy.
He is Uber confident (assured) Harbaugh has an agreement. He said his contact said it’s a week or so away from announcing.
He is saying what I want so I agree with him.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:31 AM ^
Yes. He has contract. Yes people are hopeful but Las Vegas is a real threat and the longer Davis takes the less assured they become. Take it for what you want. Peace out.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:58 AM ^
"Las Vegas is a real threat..."
Well, the answer is simple then.
We destroy Las Vegas. All of it.
Problem solved.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:16 AM ^
sometimes the best solutions are sitting right there in front of you. i know a guy, or, a really large lizard that can do the job...
January 20th, 2022 at 11:24 AM ^
…I only have one upvote to give!
January 20th, 2022 at 11:31 AM ^
But he killed the MUTO that partially destroyed Vegas. So, on the surface, it doesn't look like Godzilla's really on our side.
January 20th, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^
Oh, he's with us. This is downtown Columbus right now:
January 20th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^
Doesn't Godzilla travel by swimming in the ocean? Otherwise he plods along over land. May not be able to plod to LV. We may need Gamera the flying turtle!
January 20th, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^
maybe we can get mothra to do an airlift?
January 20th, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^
Is that what the kids call it nowadays?
January 20th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^
I was starting to get this feeling as well. Knowing how important PR is to UM it feels like the firing of Schlissel, and release of his emails was done before the Anderson settlement was publicly released so it gives the image of Michigan doing the right thing by getting rid of their president who was also involved in scandal. If a big money deal for a football coach was announced before a settlement to the victims that involves the football program this has the potential of giving the university a bad look. If I had to guess it feels like an agreement has been reached, and the final details, and timeline for announcement are the only things holding it back from being finalized. The only team I really worry about is the Raider's and as far as I know all NFL coaching interviews are public info so until I see that he is interviewing with the Raiders I'm not worried.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^
Not true on college or non working coaches. Yes on other NFL coaches as well as coordinators. Confident you won’t hear Harbaugh interviewing with Raiders. It will just be announced he has been offered and accepted the job.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
wasn't aware of that, thank you!
January 20th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^
Usually up to the candidate if he wants it leaked. You heard Urban last year, because his agent probably wanted other locations to know. He didn’t have anything to hide. Pretty much every college coach doesn’t to avoid that recruiting, fan base, AD, etc. uproar.
January 20th, 2022 at 9:47 AM ^
The thought of any sort of messaging timing/coordination regarding the Harbaugh contract, the settlement and Schlissel firing is perhaps the most comical thing I have read on here in a long time.
There is an absolutely zero percent chance of that. Tremendous wishful thinking in that post. If there was an agreement, it would have been announced by now. Zero benefit to waiting. Zero.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:08 AM ^
You obviously don't know much about public relations.
January 20th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
To be fair, Bacon said the same thing. I'm at work so I can't sit here for an extended period of time to look for the tweet.
Edit* He said this about the Schlissil situation. The Anderson settlement hadn't happened yet so perhaps THAT'S the hold up.
January 20th, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^
You do realize he is still under contract. His contract ended last year. He is only restructuring money most likely for assistants etc.. there doesn't need to be any rush considering football is over
January 20th, 2022 at 9:49 AM ^
Well...hopefully that is all correct--the delay has been about timing on the Anderson settlement and/ Schliss thing.
But my logical side realizes...that narrative has a bunch of obvious holes in it, so I don;t find this very persuasive.
Plus, the cited 'booster' said is was his 'feeling.' That falls far short of his (or his 'circle') having valuable actual knowledge. Just their feeling. A 'feeling' sounds a lot closer to speculation than actual knowledge.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^
This is the most sensible explanation for the delay in an announcement than anything I've read elsewhere, including the claim that JH is actively pursuing NFL opportunities. It's the most sensible to me because it takes into account actual existing facts—the Anderson settlement and Schlissel's dismissal—as context.
Anybody who understands U-M's institutional framework and mentality would understand that the people at the very top of the U-M pyramid, including the Regents, would be preoccupied with the Anderson and Schlissel issues, and announcing a Harbaugh extension in the middle of that would be a distraction. Not only that—you normally don't want to announce a big positive development if it's going to compete with negative news for attention in the media. Manuel certainly understands all of this—he knows all kinds of behind the scenes stuff about what's going on at the very top of U-M that he can never talk about publicly.
This also makes sense given Harbaugh's hire of Elston, his trips to see recruits and their families that have shown up on social media, and his public appearances with his family at U-M sporting events. Those are real, concrete events.
By contrast, there isn't a single "report" on Harbaugh's supposed dalliance with the NFL that is based on verifiable fact. Even the "news" that Harbaugh talked to the Bears was refuted by Hub Arkush, whose statement about Harbaugh sparked that rumor in the first place.
So on one hand we have a number of verifiable facts surrounding Harbaugh and U-M pointing to him staying, and on the other we have nothing but rumor and unsourced speculation about him leaving for the NFL.
January 20th, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^
Verifiable facts with regards to Harbaugh’s employment situation:
1. Jim has a current contract that can be bought out for $1.5 million.
2. Jim base salary puts him near the bottom of big 10 salaries
3. Jim Harbaugh just completed a very successful season
Other verifiable facts that may or may not be relevant to Harbaugh’s situation
1. The University just fired its president
2. The University just agreed to a large settlement related to it’s athletic programs
3. A new defensive line coach was hired
4. Harbaugh is doing the job he is currently being paid to do
5. Harbaugh has kids
6. Harbaugh has a wife who once lived in Las Vegas
7. Harbaugh has parents who live in Ann Arbor
8. Harbaugh was a successful NFL coach
9. There are a number of NFL coaching vacancies.
But the only fact that really matters? Until Harbaugh either signs a new contract with Michigan, or the open NFL jobs are filled none of us actually has any idea what Jim Harbaugh intends to do and it is all speculation.
My personal speculation is that literally no one (including Jim Harbaugh) knows what he is going to do, because no one, including Jim Harbaugh has all of the facts yet.
January 20th, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^
Ok, I will grudgingly agree that Manuel may have facts that the Blogosphere and the vaunted Insiders lack.