January 1st, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
uhhh, this is the coaching snowflakes thread. i guess you could make a case for the last points, but that it all execution, not coaching.
January 1st, 2020 at 11:59 PM ^
Their guys are like .1-.2 seconds faster at a 40 yard dash at best. You're talking inches, not the yards that our DB's were getting smoked by.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Please guys if you suggest someone getting fired, at least suggest a replacement... otherwise you contribute nothing to the conversation.
It's pretty obvious the results under the current staff have been disappointing. No shame in suggesting a change. But let's have a productive conversation about what the next move would be.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:01 PM ^
I’ll play. Fire DB and hire Morgan Scalley. Good defenses and good recruiter. Young and played at high level. Hard to buy from Utah.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
1. Venables
2. Fleck
3. Brady
Jimmy has had more than enough time to underachieve and needs to go back to the NFL. Now.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:18 PM ^
Venables isn't leaving Clemson for Ann Arbor. Why would he move laterally to a job where recruiting is harder?
And Brady would be a good coach because...?
January 1st, 2020 at 5:37 PM ^
I believe he was suggesting Venables as HC, which is not lateral at all
January 1st, 2020 at 5:03 PM ^
It's not like the AD and board of regents are reading this for ideas. Let me be pissed and demand heads without going thru the swim lanes.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
Doesn't hurt. Plenty of people close to the program/AD/Uni read this.
People don't read the Freep anymore.
I can't tell you in how many corners of the world I've been watching a game, talking to a random alumn, etc., where people make Mgoblog references
January 1st, 2020 at 6:03 PM ^
Just curious is it ever talked about how Jim never allows himself to be interviewed at halftime or after games like every other coach does?
January 1st, 2020 at 9:24 PM ^
for $5-6M ?
off the top of my head-----
more dynamic coaches:
matt ruhle
matt campbell
fleck
jeff brohm
luke fickell
any of these will win 8-10 games at M and present a more dynamic recruiting presence than weird jim.
January 2nd, 2020 at 12:56 AM ^
If I'm on fire you can put me out even if you don't know how to treat my wounds. Please dont think you shouldnt.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Michigan needs to decide if it's okay with 9-3 seasons. If it is, Harbaugh is the man for the job, but they will never compete for anything meaningful during his tenure.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
I'm fine with riding out another couple years of 9-3 until the Michigan boosters can lawfully unload the money cannon and bring our talent level to parity. I'd like to see what Harbaugh can do with players on an even talent level as osu.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^
This is kind of my thought. There's no sense in a change since we would still be playing a few steps behind because we make athletes play school and we won't allow for substantial payouts.
I think the top echelon of teams has been decided until the rules change, no matter what coach you have.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:13 PM ^
January 1st, 2020 at 5:23 PM ^
Given that UM is offering free trips to Rio, I would say you already are firing those money cannons at those recruits. Betcha Minnesota and Wisky would like that advantage
January 1st, 2020 at 5:42 PM ^
you are a bottomless well of assumptions
January 1st, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
thanks!
... i assume that was a compliment?
January 1st, 2020 at 5:52 PM ^
Nothing that any other coach couldn't also do....Harbaugh's in game decision making is shit. Total shit. The problem is not the players, it's the coaching.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:49 PM ^
Do you feel it was coaching that caused Shea to overthrow ever receiver and hold the ball far too long until he got sacked 20 times?
January 1st, 2020 at 5:26 PM ^
Well, they were an inch from going to the big ten championship game in 2016. I know that’s a while ago but the negativity of this fan base is insane.
This was a well coached game and we were a quarterback away from beating one of the best teams in the country
January 1st, 2020 at 5:58 PM ^
How long have we been just a quarterback away?
It's kinda becoming a tradition.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:01 PM ^
We were a QB away in 2016.
A QB away in 2017.
Thought we had a QB in 2018 that would put us over the hump and the defense gets obliterated by Ohio State.
Its always something.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:24 PM ^
This has long been decided and the answer is yes.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
Michigan lost primarily for 3 reasons:
• Awful Red Zone Play: Had four trips inside of Alabama’s 25 yard line; resulted in just 13 points. 1 TD, 2 FG, and a punt(!). Turn those trips into TDs and Michigan would have had a great shot.
• Shea Sucks and Gattis Didn’t Call Plays to Account for It: Shea had 7 overthrows and a flat-out duck. 8/8 awful deep balls. And only one was kind of close. The rest never had a chance. Need explosive plays to beat teams much better than you and Shea failed to take advantage every time. Yet Gattis kept having him trying to lead receivers deep, and mostly to short guys. Once it became clear he wasn’t making that throw, Gattis should have had him making arm punts to Collins or DPJ instead, especially on third down. Throw a 50/50 ball up and let your tall WR settle under it and try to go up for it. On 3rd downs, worst case scenario is no different than what they did on the next play any way. Huge miscue by Gattis not calling plays that could succeed.
Worth mentioning that the QB whisperer is awful at developing QBs. This is Shea’s 26th game and he’s just as bad as his first game here. His last throw was an awful interception. I have no hope that DMac or Milton will be able to develop any better considering they have the same coach. This will always hold UM back.
• Harbaugh’s End-of-Half Play Calling. Had the ball at Alabama’s 45, 1st and 10, with over 2 minutes left. They would only move the ball a net 6 yards over their next 6 plays. Harbaugh 100% settled for the field goal there instead of going for a touchdown. His clock management has been awful EVERY SINGLE TIME it has presented itself. He needs to hire someone to take over this part of the game from him. It’s actively painful to watch, especially considering everyone knows it’s going to happen.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
I thought the overthrows may have been a response to the first couple of series, where it looked like Alabama's DBs were too good for slop tosses or lobs. More generally, a lot of overthrows seem to have been de facto throwaways where you hope the WR draws a BS PI call.
The end of half tomfoolery bothers me. If you're worrying about "they'll get the ball back with a minute left!" rather than trying to score touchdowns against Alabama, then it shows a lack of confidence that's acceptable in pants-wetting fans on the Internet, but not acceptable for a head coach.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:37 PM ^
The only "tomfoolery" was the third down play where Patterson decided to hand off for 3 yards instead of taking a shot to DPJ who was open by yards immediately. Should have been an easy touchdown. I've been a Shea defender for two years, but unfortunately today was a microcosm of his time here. Way too many plays and points left on the field.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:15 PM ^
Putting aside Patterson's poor read, they ran the clock out on the half. That's a repeated theme of the season. It's pretty damn frustrating, because anyone with a pulse knows that Alabama is scoring more than 16 points in this game.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
Let's not forget Shea panics and never throws the ball away. Eat a huge sack and never consider just chucking it away. Frustrating.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
I agree with everything you said. Basically, he'd Frames Janklin just not quite a good at recruiting.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:57 PM ^
Do they have a passing-game coordinator? If they don’t they need one. Do they have a QB coach? If they don’t they need one. Harbaugh needs to swallow his pride and realize he isn’t getting it done.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:25 PM ^
Ben McDaniels is the QB coach.
January 1st, 2020 at 6:43 PM ^
Woof.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
Meh, whatever. The defense held Bama to their lowest output of the season and the scheme had receivers open all day. Not much you can do when your starting QB is playing like ass.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:58 PM ^
??This
January 1st, 2020 at 4:59 PM ^
508 yds on 55 plays for Bama
9.2 yds per play.
Tell me again how it was good. Definitely spots where it looked good, but overall, same crap, different day w this D.
Edit: 480 yds for 8.7 ypp
January 1st, 2020 at 5:07 PM ^
This was their lowest point total of the year AFTER the garbage time TD. In modern college football you don't stop elite offenses. You slow them down and keep up with your own high octane offense.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^
I mean, they gave up some huge plays but that's gonna happen when you play a team with as many weapons as Bama had. To their credit, the D gave us a chance. We were always gonna have to score 40 to win this one
January 1st, 2020 at 5:14 PM ^
only 21 real points; refs gave them 7 and the garbage TD added another 7. i would take that any day against bama. it was up to the offense to go get the win and patterson failed miserably.
hell, it started with our first possession when patterson overthrew collins on a sure TD route which forced a punt.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:03 PM ^
When did the refs actually give bama 7 points? I must have missed that.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:17 PM ^
Don Brown cannot fucking win.
holds teams to 245 yards and 2.9 ypp, but gives up 17 in a loss and he gets shit for it
holds team to lowest pt total of season, but gives up 500 yards, gets shit for it.
no coordinators are going to be perfect.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:44 PM ^
The problem isn't the game were it's 2.9 ypp.....it's the loses to OSU where the D implodes and games like today where they give up 500 yds to a team with a back up QB. At some point....you gotta stop good teams.
January 1st, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
The "almighty" Don Brown defensive stats are built by playing teams like Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern and other weaklings. You hear all about the hype of the defense-especially when it is Ohio State week. Then they give up points and yardage like a MAC school. It's an illusion. Any time M plays a top tier Big 10 team, they get dominated.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
Why is our starting QB playing like ass in year 5?
January 1st, 2020 at 5:18 PM ^
I think it's time we let someone else Row the Boat.
Thank you, Jim. But it's clear that he'll never elevate this team to the next level. He needed to bring Greg Roman with him on Day 1. Gone are his antics that we all loved. Other teams keep metaphorically punching his team in the mouth and he's forced to sit down and shut up until he actually wins something to brag about, which seems so unreachable right now. He's taken too many punches and there's no recovering. OSU has his number and they're pulling further away. Fleck would at least give us new hope. There's no hope with Jim.
Just can't get excited about college football or recruiting when our team loses handily three times a year.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:50 PM ^
that's a little misleading, Alabama scored 7 pts on a PR against LSU and had Tua playing so the LSU defense gave up 34 to a Tua-led offense on the road, a much better performance than today's defense. And if it was a high scoring game, they would have put up more points, they pretty much shut it down after 28-13.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
Look forward to mgoblog podcast and hearing them still defending don Brown. Or hell even JH at this point.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^
My disappointment is that The QB's do not really seem to develop to the level you would think they should. Coach H is supposed to be a QB whisper and yet.......The whole difference today came down to one position - again.....so disappointing