OT: Who do the Detroit Tigers draft at #1

Submitted by Champeen on July 30th, 2019 at 4:02 PM

RHP Emerson Hancock - Fastball reaches high 90's (98).  Great slider.  

1B Spencer Torkelson - Power Hitter with very good eye.  Not much of a fielder, but is setting homer records in college (crushed Barry Bonds freshmen HR record at Arizona State, which was also a Pac Ten freshmen record, and 1 away from tying the National Record (25)

I would rather they get Torkelson.  He, to me, is more of a sure thing.  Hancock has higher upside (higher upside than Mize probably) but he doesnt have the control of Mize, or the amount of pitches in his arsenal.  

 

The Tigers right now have better pitching in their farm system, and i believe they really, really need a batter to eventually replace Cabrera, and Torkelson is it.  He is the surest thing.

If they do not draft one of the above, i will consider their draft an enormous letdown (unless maybe high schooler Blaze Jordan, who could turn into a Torkelson).

Whats your thoughts on who the Tigers should get?

 

 

nerv

July 30th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^

I know nothing of any of these prospects. I also know the Tigers are hurting for position prospects. That said I just don't know how I feel about taking a 1b who is already considered a poor fielder in college. Sounds like you're essentially drafting a DH.

Don

July 30th, 2019 at 6:39 PM ^

I drank a good amount of Goebel back in the '70s, back in the mists of time when Coors was considered an exotic classy brew in Michigan because it wasn't sold east of the Mississippi. Goebel was like a midwest version of Coors—very light in flavor and easily poundable. 

rainingmaize

July 30th, 2019 at 4:12 PM ^

There is still a lot that could change between now and the 2020 draft. The summer before Mize's last year, he wasn't getting much hype as a possible no.1 overall pick, and he eventually became the clear no.1 player in that draft. So in theory, Hancock could make a huge jump. 

That being said, if there is a bat worthy of no.1, grab the bat. Tigers have some pitching depth in the minors, but zero established prospects who project as middle of the order bats (unless you count Greene who we just picked and does look promising). 

blueday

July 30th, 2019 at 6:12 PM ^

I would agree if only a small amount of prospects actually pan out from all the talent we traded away. I'm not feeling we will see much value from those trades. We shall see. 

outsidethebox

July 31st, 2019 at 7:52 AM ^

The Tigers could have the entire first round of picks and still miss out. If you cannot identify and develop talent nothing else really matters...you will get robbed blind at every turn. As things stand at this juncture, this is at the heart of this organization's woes.  

blueday

July 30th, 2019 at 6:15 PM ^

I would agree if only a small amount of prospects actually pan out from all the talent we traded away. I'm not feeling we will see much value from those trades. We shall see. 

Gucci Mane

July 30th, 2019 at 4:33 PM ^

Why is everyone so upset the Tigers suck ? Guess what, they won’t be a contender for 5+ years. It’s all about assets right now. And losing games isn’t a negative in any way. It’s fair to critique Avila’s management of assets, but not then record. 

Champeen

July 30th, 2019 at 4:39 PM ^

I say 3 years, but maybe it is a little aggressive.  People who do not follow closely do not understand how good their farm system is right now.  Top 5 in the majors.  Most talent since late 70's (trammell, whitaker, morris).

Still, a little weak on bats, and heavy on pitching.  

Glennsta

July 30th, 2019 at 4:49 PM ^

Long term, this losing pays off.  Better draft position leads to better players in the draft.

Short term, it's painful because the guys on this team seem like mostly decent people and nobody likes to watch them suffer through the misery of losing day in, day out.

UPMichigan

July 30th, 2019 at 4:42 PM ^

I blame Ausmus for crashing the bus. Avila has done little to help the situation. Gardenhire got handed a pile of junk. I watched one game this year and it was absolutely brutal. I swear I was watching the bad news bears. I can't believe how quickly they went from a powerhouse to bottom feeder.

Mr Miggle

July 30th, 2019 at 5:13 PM ^

Ausmus?

You can blame him for not winning with the talent he had. I fail to see how he gets the blame for where the Tigers are today.

Truth is, fans like to call for teams to tank. It happens in every Pistons thread. But fans also hate watching their teams while they are tanking. Avila's job is not to field a winning team, but to lay the groundwork for one that can win in a few years, without the luxury of spending money to acquire key pieces. It looks like he's doing a decent job of that, but it's too early for anyone to know for sure.

ChrisBrown

July 30th, 2019 at 4:54 PM ^

I'd be pretty stunned if they take Torkelson first overall. There's never been a college first baseman taken 1-1, and right-handed hitting, right-handed throwing first baseman are incredibly risky prospects.

There's no obvious #1 right now, though you mentioned Emerson Hancock, who certainly looks the part as a big, hard-thrower from the SEC. Vandy infielder Austin Martin, who you may remember from the College World Series, has a good shot to go 1-1, particularly if it looks like he's a legit shortstop next year. There are a couple of other shortstops who could make their way to the top with good seasons, like Casey Martin from Arkansas and Freddy Zamora from Miami. Torkelson's teammate Alika Williams played well for Team USA, and LA Lafayette infielder Hayden Cantrelle has had a great Cape Cod League, but they seem more like second-half of the first round types.

The strength of this draft really appears the be the SEC arms at the top, so that's probably the smart bet at this point.

ralphgoblue

July 30th, 2019 at 5:09 PM ^

They need a whole bunch of hitters.Then move the Comerica fences in.It really sucks when a guy hits a long fly ball out, that is a homer in every other ball park .

Id rather watch guys that hit .240 and have 35 hrs then guys bat .240 with 9 hrs

Tigers are going to be terrible for 3-5 more years,and i think they would draw more fans if they lose 14-9 instead of 8-1

 

Schembo

July 30th, 2019 at 5:11 PM ^

Hancock is a really great looking prospect, but to me his mechanics look like he might end up as a stud set up man or closer.  This class is supposed to be one of the better ones in awhile.  I’d probably keep trying to acquiring bats.