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April 16th, 2024 at 12:31 PM ^

The agreed-upon penalties in this case include three years of probation for the school, a fine and recruiting restrictions in alignment with the Level I-Mitigated classification for the school. The participating individuals also agreed to one-year show-cause orders consistent with the Level II-Standard and Level II-Mitigated classifications of their respective violations.

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m9tt

April 16th, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^

Downvote for the super disingenuous topic title. 

This is good news for Michigan with very light penalties for previously known NCAA infractions (Burgergate). 

The only NCAA infractions left to dodge are the Signgate penalties, which Michigan has yet to even be notified of allegations (officially) by the NCAA.

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lhglrkwg

April 16th, 2024 at 12:50 PM ^

Whys it disingenuous?

I find the NCAA giving these guys a show cause to be fairly absurd given the accusations here. Maybe the guys all just said yeah whatever because most of them are in the NFL? Because if this stuff gets you a one year show cause then a lot of guys should be banned from CFB for life

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ERdocLSA2004

April 16th, 2024 at 5:43 PM ^

Very light penalties for buying a couple of kids lunch at a below average restaurant?  This is a joke.  The punishment is ludicrous because the crime was nonsense.  Meanwhile OSU reels in the best transfer portal class in history, tampers, and spends millions to lure guys away from other schools, but the NCAA doesn’t bat an eye.  We should ignore the NCAA and their pathetic existence.

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ZooWolverine

April 16th, 2024 at 6:09 PM ^

The NCAA is terrible, but I don't see how any replacement body will be noticeably better.

Think of Harbaugh out-working everyone with satellite camps, the SEC especially pushed the NCAA to stop them. With the push to pay players, the SEC was the most vocal about not paying players because they were the most successful at paying them under the table. The NCAA has no purpose and perpetuates terrible rules, but if a majority of schools want to push/break the rules for an advantage, SEC schools chief but certainly not alone among them, then any rule-setting organization that's run by those schools is going to be feckless.

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The Fugitive

April 16th, 2024 at 12:31 PM ^

Michigan and five individuals who currently or previously worked for its football program have reached an agreement with NCAA enforcement staff on recruiting violations and coaching activities by noncoaching staff members that occurred within the football program, and the appropriate penalties for those violations. A Committee on Infractions panel has approved the agreement. One former coach did not participate in the agreement, and that portion of the case will be considered separately by the Committee on Infractions, after which the committee will release its full decision. 

The agreed-upon violations involve impermissible in-person recruiting contacts during a COVID-19 dead period, impermissible tryouts, and the program exceeding the number of allowed countable coaches when noncoaching staff members engaged in on- and off-field coaching activities (including providing technical and tactical skills instruction to student-athletes).  The negotiated resolution also involved the school's agreement that the underlying violations demonstrated a head coach responsibility violation and the former football head coach failed to meet his responsibility to cooperate with the investigation. The school also agreed that it failed to deter and detect the impermissible recruiting contacts and did not ensure that the football program adhered to rules for noncoaching staff members.

The committee will not discuss further details in the case to protect the integrity of the ongoing process, as the committee's final decision — including potential violations and penalties for the former coach — is pending.

By separating the cases, the Division I Committee on Infractions publicly acknowledges the infractions case and permits the school and the participating individuals to immediately begin serving their penalties while awaiting the committee's final decision on the remaining contested portion of the case. That decision will include any findings and penalties for the former coach. This is the fourth case where the committee has used multiple resolution paths. 

The agreed-upon penalties in this case include three years of probation for the school, a fine and recruiting restrictions in alignment with the Level I-Mitigated classification for the school. The participating individuals also agreed to one-year show-cause orders consistent with the Level II-Standard and Level II-Mitigated classifications of their respective violations.

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Seth

April 16th, 2024 at 6:36 PM ^

I'm not leaving slander up. I was tempted to ban the user too. The old WYSIWYG editor was depreciated so we had to get the latest one from Drupal. Drupal is only as strong as the community supporting it.

If you want to post photos tap the three dots "more" button in the upper right of the WYSIWYG and hit the photo button like always.

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TESOE

April 16th, 2024 at 7:13 PM ^

Different browser

Hmm... looks like a priv level thing? These are all pics of my cat. Maybe there's a AI at work. All cats must die. All jokes aside... pics are not working for this user.

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Creedence Tapes

April 16th, 2024 at 12:51 PM ^

Let me get this straight. So essentially, we did a better job helping our student athletes learn and grow their skill set than the NCAA likes, and we met for burgers with recruits on a day that it was not allowed. This sounds very serious, and likely to cause irreparable harm to the unpaid student athletes the NCAA is tasked with protecting. I'm glad the NCAA is fully investigating every other team in Division I in the same manner, to make sure that all student athletes were being fully protected and not taken advantage of by anyone else (other than the NCAA). 

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djmagic

April 17th, 2024 at 10:01 AM ^

to the contrary, the couple of buckeyes i've discussed this with briefly think it confirms every negative thing they ever said about the program under Harbaugh.  

it's absurd.  but at a certain point we have to realize that there will always be stupid people who hold stupid opinions for stupid reasons...or even otherwise smart people who hold stupid opinions for stupid reasons.  And there's nothing we can do about that (except maybe point and laugh).

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lhglrkwg

April 16th, 2024 at 12:34 PM ^

So this is the end of the (probably) Dudek BS right? I'm surprised the former coaches cooperated. If I went to the NFL, I'd stop answering the phone about cheeseburger violations and zoom practices during covid

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djmagic

April 17th, 2024 at 10:05 AM ^

while i like this comment, it's important to remember the timeline here -  that the NoA in this case was already in M's hands when the bulk of the defensive staff took promotions into the NFL.  They cooperated (except for one, according to the NCAA) while still employed at M, as we would/should expect.

that said, i'm wondering what, if anything, beyond the "i don't recall who paid for lunch" bit, the NCAA is referring to when they accuse harbaugh of not cooperating.

reading the text in that one paragraph, i'm not surprised by Mars' social media post saying Harbaugh is pissed that M effectively threw him under the bus.  but i also think that if that's what M did, they did it because they thought it was in the best interest of the program, at the expense of a guy who's no longer in the program.   ::shrug::

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