outsidethebox

September 21st, 2021 at 5:40 PM ^

That's cute but it's not good enough. If you have ever coached you know that the kid occupying the very last place at the end of the bench thinks he should be getting playing time. And here, those not playing or starting have been stars all their life. I guarantee you that in this situation a "ring" does not cut it.

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Quailman

September 21st, 2021 at 7:56 PM ^

That's cute, but the question was just about recruiting stud QB's every year. Not keeping them.

The other poster was correct in saying that teams like Bama, Clemson, OSU, have an easier chance of pulling in a highly-ranked QB in every class because they win all the time and have more notoriety. 

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AZBlue

September 21st, 2021 at 5:37 PM ^

Low chance Cade will be here next year IMO.  (GREAT if we can keep him!)  Since I doubt he will be drafted this year - barring a HUGE season by M and an uptick in actual passing plays - I think he will probably look around for a chance to start at a school without a JJ McCarthy on the roster.

I do like Denegal as a prospect, but more as a Joe Milton/Wilton Speight style development opportunity.  M will need someone who will be college-ready in a pinch next year unless Bowman has another year of eligibility....

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AZBlue

September 21st, 2021 at 6:52 PM ^

Not sure where I am saying JJ SHOULD start next year, but if you cannot see the difference in their skills then I am not sure what to say.  This isn't a Peters, Speight, O'Korn situation. 

Insiders already say "JJ is comin' for the job" so you have to feel that a change is coming eventually - I think next year would be ideal unless JJ is so much better than what Cade has shown.

Cade looks like he is on track to be close to what we all hoped Shea would be.....which is fricking awesome, but JJ has a better arm, seems to be a better runner, and is taller.  Per insiders Cade has a better command of the offense and seems to be one hell of a leader. 

All I was trying t say above is that I doubt Cade would stay if JJ passes him.  The same is possible - maybe a bit less likely - for JJ if he does not pass Cade.  In either situation you are going to be thin at QB and could use a "more-ready" QB recruit for this class.

EDIT - To Rob below --- I HOPE that they all stay but these young QBs have pro aspirations and I do not think sitting the bench when draft eligible is a great path to the NFL no matter how much you love M and value education.

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BroadneckBlue21

September 22nd, 2021 at 8:19 AM ^

I get it: JJ does look like the near future. He could start this year. You can hope for a Alex Smith/Kaepernick like situation and result, but why? 

Cade is doing nothing but running the kind of offense we imagined. Yes, it is run heavy, but Cade is both 1) a good decision maker, 2) very accurate, and 3) he runs the play lock efficiently. There’s something to a leader who makes everyone better, including his backup. Cade has that kind of Brady/Brees/Fields like “moxy.”

He has less zip on his passes, but he gives the defense the arm threat that forces them to respect the line of scrimmage.

If we can maintain the offensive success (TDs on most drives) in conference, then you stay with McNamara. Don’t destroy team chemistry by forcing an unnecessary throw.

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rob f

September 21st, 2021 at 6:39 PM ^

You know, it's entirely possible many of these young men will make their decisions for themselves, and a big part of the equation will be the opportunity to get a Michigan degree.

Cade is no slouch at QB. Top football factories such as Bama sought his commitment out of high school. Cade chose Michigan.

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The Purple Helmet

September 21st, 2021 at 7:28 PM ^

We lost how many transfers last year?

Apparently the “Michigan Degree” didn’t mean a whole lot there (excepting grad transfers)

if you’re not from Michigan and have no other tie to the school, the degree can be from anywhere as long as they can play or have a better chance of playing 

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matty blue

September 22nd, 2021 at 7:36 AM ^

mcnamara could definitely become draftable with a good season or two.

hell, ian book went in the fourth round this year, and i'd take mcnamara over him all day long.  jake fromm, cole mcdonald, easton stick...guys like mcnamara (i.e. not 6'-4" with a howitzer arm, but smart, productive leaders) get drafted every single year.

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AZBlue

September 21st, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^

Interesting....

I'd still love to get back in on that "Denard-like" kid that committed to Utah - seemed like a great fit between traditional QB 5-stars JJ and (hopefully) Dante.

Guessing M doesn't have interest or the ability to accept his Juco brother like Utah did though.

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Champeen

September 22nd, 2021 at 8:16 AM ^

Shea absolutely was a 5* out of high school.  He was a stud in high school, and was easily the best QB in the all-american games.  He was amazing.  Now, his worth ethic in college, and his coaching up in college, are another story.  But in high school, he absolutely was and deserved to be a 5*.

Morris, on the other hand, no.  He was not a 5* in high school.  I agree with you there.

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TeslaRedVictorBlue

September 21st, 2021 at 5:13 PM ^

"I may visit Michigan this weekend for the Rutgers game," Martin said. "I've been talking with them on and off ever since they offered. Once I de-committed today, they blew my phone up and talked with me, my dad and my coaches.

Sounds like he's interested. Go gettem. Dante is no guarantee, and we have seen how quickly a qb situation can get very dire. We need depth every year. guys will go, so they need to come also.. (twss)

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ak47

September 21st, 2021 at 5:29 PM ^

I don’t know why everyone seems so confident about Dante Moore but it’s tough to find someone to say positive things about denegal and Michigan could be looking at an extremely thin qb room if you get a situation where JJ wins the job and Cade transfers out next year. Absolutely should took a swing at a guy they like 

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AZBlue

September 21st, 2021 at 5:43 PM ^

Similar silly story -- someone on twitter/tRCMB earlier this week claimed that Will Johnson YTWJ was hitting on their 52 y.o. ex-wife over Facebook. 

If you saw an Tweet from Will Johnson saying "I am not on Facebook, have never been on Facebook" and didn't understand why...This is the reason.

 

Edit - I don't follow WJ but saw some of the commotion on Michigan Twitterz

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