WTKA Roundtable 4/18/2024: Spinning Out of Others' Pockets
Things Discussed:
- Filling the basketball roster. Expect to get C Vlad Goldin (FAU), CG Justin Pippen (HS), PG Trey Donaldson (Auburn), W Roddy Gayle (OSU), and another guy they're going after under the radar.
- Like Gayle if they can get his 3P% up better than Saint Mary's Aidan Mahaney, who took a lot of bad shots. C Justin Abson (App State) is Ben Wallace. Is he an either/or with C Danny Wolf (Yale)?
- What's the holdup? Guys want to go through the draft advisory board process. Sam thinks we'll get a drumbeat of commitments in the coming days and weeks.
- NIL: Dusty May needs a little more. How deep does the donor pool go? Well it's complicated; you're talking a quirky small subset of people who can afford this, and their individual circumstances matter a lot. There's a lot they're supporting: Football (which we're getting it done), Men's Hoops, Women's Hoops, etc. Seth: Don't forget Mott and the University of Michigan.
- Spring Game: What does the OL look like? Are there any guys standing? Sam thinks we won't be able to watch Hinton, Crippen, and El-Hadi, which that's three of your starters. Who's next? Seth doesn't like that Giudice is ahead of Efobi. That battle for RT is more iffy than we realized? Sam thinks they want a guy in the portal for Gentry or Persi to beat. Seth: If you're saying they Anderson we're at eight guys they trust now.
- Ohio State Spring Game: Their DL pushed their OL around so much it colors everything. QBs were throwing the ball into defenders; chests. Craig thinks their secondary is good. Seth says the offense is very Chip Kelly, they might have something with Julian Sayin down the road but he's skinny and mistake-prone right now.
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April 18th, 2024 at 11:17 AM ^
Seth, I’ve always wondered, what happened to the little joke in Carl’s intro about “what’s the difference between recorded and prerecorded”?
April 18th, 2024 at 11:23 AM ^
It got boring to keep making the same joke so I edited it out. But once in awhile I throw it back in again. But I still have the with-joke version on a track in the file I create it with.
April 18th, 2024 at 12:32 PM ^
And yet he always says don’t call in. When’s the last time the roundtable was a call-in segment?
April 24th, 2024 at 10:09 PM ^
It's still live 9 o'clock thursdays. We just don't take calls.
Not boring at all, its hilarious every time, edit it back in please!!!
April 18th, 2024 at 11:30 AM ^
I’m curious about other people’s opinions here. Do you think we’re losing so many WRs because there has been a philosophical offensive change? Last season was probably like 55/45 run/pass…just a guess. Also just a guess is that SMASH is going to run those rushing numbers up.
April 18th, 2024 at 12:26 PM ^
I think perception is reality. I'm sure every non-M coach tells every WR on the recruiting trail that if they go to Michigan they'll just be asked to block and occasionally run end-arounds because Michigan never throws the ball. Maybe show them tape of last year's PSU game, and the second half of 2021 OSU.
Facts never get in the way of a recruiting visit, but this is a very easy case to fabricate.
I think the problem is, other teams can also put on tape of stud, elite Michigan WR's in the NFL doing great things. Its a pretty short clip close to 0 minutes long.
WIthout looking, who is the best Michigan WR in the NFL right now? Do we even have a top 50 ish WR?
Nico
Who despite being one of the better receivers in the NFL... was a 3rd round pick and had less than 1,400 yards total in 3 seasons because of Michigans offense.
Yep. Throw it to Nico.
Nico Collins was the 3rd best WR in 2023 according to PFF.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-wide-receivers-2023-nfl-season
Uhh... Nico, and yes.
That wasn't hard.
While Michigan does throw the ball, they spread the ball around. In 15 games, Michigan's leading wr had 48 receptions, 2nd had 47 and 3rd had 22. Loveland had 45 and Barnum had 22. Edwards had 30.
If you're a WR behind Tyler Morris, Semaj Morgan, and Fredrick Moore on the depth chart, there isn't much left to go around over the next two years. Even with a top-10 pick at QB in 2022 & 2023, the WR3 averaged < 300 yds / season, WR4 averaged < 150 yds / season, and the remaining receivers totaled < 100 yds / season.
April 18th, 2024 at 12:02 PM ^
I can remember Giudice's uninspiring recruiting profile, and he's barely played, but he is a 4th-year interior lineman, so it's not surprising that he's ahead of a high-ceiling 2nd-year guy who'll need some time to reach his potential ... right? I hope.
April 18th, 2024 at 12:58 PM ^
I haven't had a chance to listen but someone on the forum said Enow Etta is also playing OL?
Edit: I listened. He is not playing OL.
You have a guy in Judkins who was apparently difficult to coach, not a great teammate, and wasnt happy with his 20 carries per game now splitting carries with the incumbent starter in Henderson, running behind what might be a suspect offensive line (Klatt had same concerns as well), and playing for a head coach just itching the throw the ball. I expect OSU to be extremely good this year, and that defense will keep them in games, but that just looks like a receipt for disaster with Judkins and a locker room issue just waiting to happen.
Unless I missed a joke, Sam used the phrase "spending out of others' pockets," not spinning.
Definitely set my expectations a bit too high on portal targets. As the guys said, it's looking sorta like Vlad and a bunch of unproven guys will be the roster. Not a huge shock but I was thinking we'd get at least 2 of the FAU gang.
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