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Brian April 17th, 2019 at 12:57 PM

This is a game of telephone, but… Delaware combo guard Nah'shon Hyland is a fast-rising name in the class of 2019 and may have let the cat out of the bag in re: Jordan Poole. In an article for the Maryland 247 site:

Hyland took a pair of officials earlier in his recruitment, to Temple and St. Joe's. He plans to take one to VCU, and has heard from from Maryland, DePaul, Georgetown, Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, TCU and Seton Hall. Another Big Ten school reached out to his coach over the weekend.

"Michigan. They said they have an open spot because their shooting guard is staying in the draft," he said.

Possible the Michigan contact didn't say exactly that. Since it goes on the heap of other signs that Poole's gone it means something anyway.

Meanwhile: Bones. Hyland is a riser for the reason many are: he missed some critical months with an injury. How he got that injury is incredibly sad. He damaged ligaments when he jumped out of his house, which was on fire at the time. The fire claimed the lives of his baby brother and grandmother. A year later he's physically recovered and managing to play through what must be a heavy heart. Endless Motor:

Hyland had a superb outing at Under Armour Session I in Chicago, where he averaged 15.5 points and 4 assists while shooting over 41% from distance and nearly 49% from the field overall. Nahshon isn’t content though, he expects more from himself.

“I feel as though I haven’t played my best yet even though I did what I had to. But I haven’t reached the level that I usually play at.”

The Wilmington area product has some of the best handles in the 2019 class, with playmaking ability that can best be described as electric. As a scorer, Hyland has range out to 25 feet with good mechanics and good body control when finishing at the rim.

Hyland is a point guard but has the size and (possibly) the shooting ability to play the two—his 6'3" listed height even seems a little low. At 163 pounds he may not be an immediate answer, unfortunately. But he might be worth it down the road. 247 immediately inserted him in their top 100 at #69.

Michigan seems to be genuinely interested; Josh Henschke reports that Yaklich and Beilein are headed out to Delaware to see him in person in the near future, and that Hyland would probably take an official visit if that goes well. That's significant because Hyland has already spent two officials on St Joe's and Temple and has a VCU visit set up as well. Only two schools outside the A-10 are going to get officials.

[After THE JUMP: eye bleach: bleach for your eyes!]

The grad transfer. Michigan is most focused on William & Mary's Justin Pierce, who has trimmed his list to Notre Dame, Michigan, and, uh, UNC. UNC being UNC, though, they're unable to offer any certainty about what their roster is going to look like:

“He called today and wanted to schedule the visit this week and see what happens with high school guys and that they have a lot of spots open and even if they get some of those guys they could still use a guy like me,” Pierce said.

“Coach Williams has been straight forward,” he added. “He said if you want to come here, we’ll take you, but he said he’d be transparent with me about my role and stuff like that. So we’ll go from there.”

Pierce cites Michigan's track record of putting guys into pro careers—finally someone is paying attention—as a pro. They've also got a very clear path to minutes. Notre Dame can offer that as well, but the Irish finished dead last in the ACC this year. Hopefully the lure of certain minutes for a good program is enough.

The Wagner. Scouting report from NBA-draft-focused The Stepien:

I. Calling Card: Shooting off the Catch

Wagner might be the best shooter off the catch in the 2001-born international class. A 36% 3-point shooter for his career on over 170 attempts according to RealGM and an 86% free-throw shooter, Wagner is a threat to spread the floor in different situations which has earned him a regular starting spot on ALBA’s senior team as a 17-year old.

Wagner is super quick to get his shot off. Just how quick is “super quick”? Well, I clocked every shot off the catch he took through the course of three different games for ALBA both at the junior and senior levels, and it takes him an average of 0.64 seconds to get his shot off after touching the ball. That’s insanely quick. For comparison, 538 had a piece late in 2017 about Klay Thompson’s “lightning quick jumper” which Stats SportsVU clocked at 0.79 seconds after he touched the ball.

Wagner isn't quite an all-around offensive threat just yet; the report dings him for both his "lack of both a creative handle and an elite first step on the perimeter." This is similar to Brazdeikis, who was able to attack closeouts but had some issues finishing at the rim (61%, bleah) as the season progressed. Wagner would be much younger than Brazdeikis was as a freshman and more likely to improve in that department.

The outrage level is out of whack. This NYT story on the Michigan State student gang-raped by three basketball players and discouraged from reporting it is going to generate 10000 times less outrage than Tom Izzo yelling at one of his players:

According to Ms. Kowalski, when a university counselor learned that the men who she said assailed her were members of the basketball team — a storied and treasured program that has played in 10 Final Fours, including this year’s — the counselor discouraged her from reporting it, the lawsuit said.

“If you pursue this, you are going to be swimming with some really big fish,” a staff member told Ms. Kowalski, the lawsuit said.

Ms. Kowalski plans to hold a news conference in East Lansing on Thursday, the fourth anniversary of the incident. A month later, she will graduate from Michigan State.

“I don’t want any other girl who has gone through this or who God forbid may have to go through something like this to feel for one second that they should be too afraid to come out and do something,” Ms. Kowalski said in a phone interview last week.

This is the second multi-person rape that Tom Izzo has ignored without suffering any consequences, after successfully burying Keith Appling and Adriean Payne's assault despite Payne literally confessing in a taped interview with police.

Drevnooooooooo. Your author may have inadvertently exclaimed "oh come on" when he saw this tweet:

There were a lot of issues with Swenson's recruitment on Swenson's end—dude's refusal to camp for the new staff foremost among them. But Drevno 1) didn't want the kid, 2) didn't tell the kid, and 3) didn't replace the kid. Every day he slides further into the pit of former Michigan coaches fans keep bringing up even years after they left. He gets the toadstool next to Tony Gibson and Mike Gittleson.

Your author checked the date on this. It was not April 1st.

 

Eagle-eyed internet persons hilariously detected a Seahawks logo on one of the gloves: these radioactive things have been passed around. Only after Nike got turned down by the East Hampshire School For The Color Blind And Generally Tasteless did someone call Michigan State.

Final CSB. Not a lot of movement for Michigan commits in the final edition of the NHL's Central Scouting rankings:

York is likely to go in the first round and Beecher is projected as a third-rounder since Euros and goalies will push him down a bit. Swankler and Ciccolini are actually 2020 recruits, FWIW.

Etc.: must be a Tuesday. More Michigan draft prospect breakdowns. You crushed the EDSBS charity drive, again. ESPN's algorithm has football with a 41% chance to make the playoff, third best. Lester Quinones moves his visit a few days later.

Comments

1201

April 17th, 2019 at 1:23 PM ^

Pierce, Wagner, and Hyland please.

Also Tom Izzo is a scumbag, but we already knew that.

Also also Drevno was a terrible OL coach and recruiter but ultimately the blame falls to Harbaugh because he hired the guy and then was seemingly OK with his recruiting decisions for three years that proved to be not so good.

Space Coyote

April 17th, 2019 at 2:16 PM ^

I think some context is needed.

1) His JR film did not look terrible. He wasn't a light-footed OT by any stretch of the imagination, but he had solid film that legit put him in the 3-star/4-star borderline area. At the time of his commitment, he was solid, regardless of his SR film.

2) OU has lost a ton along the OL. Still upon entering spring, the OU 247 site thought he would be a backup RG, because he hadn't been very inspiring as an OT in a reserve role to date.

3) It's important to remember this is coming out of spring. Their C - Humphrey - is a potential All-American. All 4 spots around him lost starters.

Swenson, going into his RS Jr year, is competing with:

  • Ealy (former 4-star, RS So, OT),
  • Felix (3-star top 50 JUCO, Jr (1st year on campus, OG),
  • Hayes (former 4-star, RS So, OG),
  • Roberts (3-star TE transfer from New Mexico St where he played TE, JR, forced to redshirt),
  • Robinson (former 4-star, RS So, OG),
  • Simpson (former 4-star, RS Fr, OT),
  • Swaby (Unranked JUCO, RS So, OT),
  • Walker (former 5-star, RS Fr).

So to be clear, the competition is all younger than him, and at OT consists of Swenson, a similarly ranked prospect a year younger, freshmen, and unranked JUCOs. I don't have as much negative feelings for Swenson as others - he should have camped, Michigan should have handled it better - but didn't think he was a terrible prospect either. He may be fine, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Walker overtakes him (I believe Walker his the heir at LT and Simpson at RT; Swenson played LT most of his career so far)

Space Coyote

April 17th, 2019 at 2:43 PM ^

And to be clear, Swenson may very well win the starting job and be fine.

And to be somewhat fair, Michigan had planned on Bredeson being an OT, and got burned late by Hamilton, which really hurt that class from an OT-recruiting perspective. When they originally told Swenson to look around, they were also in on a number of other highly-regarded OTs (EJ Price and Jean Delance (both ended up transferring), I believe Landon Dickerson) and had another OG prospect in Terrance Davis.

All that said, Swenson was likely just as far or farther than Ulizio from helping Michigan at the start of the 2017 season, and likely wasn't going to start in 2018 over Runyan and JBB. So at best, he's another body competing at RT right now. Another bullet in the chamber is always value added, especially on the OL, it's just that "presumed starter for OU" in this case doesn't mean quite as much as it would imply.

robpollard

April 17th, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^

As further info, Swenson played a whopping 4 games last year (none as a starter; he played 6 the previous year, also as a backup). I haven't found any info he was injured, so that's pretty low for a team that regularly blew people out.

Maybe he starts this year, maybe he doesn't, but it's very unlikely he's a miss like some players (e.g., Devery Hamilton, or if you're talking about people we told to look elsewhere, AJ Dillon).

The Homie J

April 17th, 2019 at 4:38 PM ^

Whoever failed to keep AJ Dillon in the fold should be shot out of a cannon. We were fine losing him at the time because we thought we'd have both O'Maury Samuels (well...) and Najee Harris (what a few weeks that was).  And failing to get Harris, we'd still have Chris Evans and Kareem Walker.

His exit post really hurts right about now: https://mgoblog.com/content/exit-aj-dillon

Rabbit21

April 17th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^

It's not that I have negative feeling on him, I just remember watching his senior film and being very glad Michigan didn't spend a scholarship on him as I just didn't see him do anything other than fall on smaller people, I just didn't see him drive through or finish blocks.

Thanks for the rest of the context, it's very helpful.

bronxblue

April 17th, 2019 at 4:22 PM ^

This was always my take as well.  Michigan didn't handle the situation well in the moment or afterwards, and Drevno as a recruiter turned out to be a mess (I still maintain as an offensive line coach he was fine.  Not great, but some problems on the line had to do with factors beyond his control).  But when a guy won't camp for a new staff, has a disappointing senior year, and seems to repeatedly miss not-so-subtle clues that he needs to address those issues, I'm not going to rake Harbaugh over the coals.  Personally, I think the way he handled the Rashad Weaver situation way worse compared to Swenson, but because he didn't make as big a stink about it and it's not as major a position of need, nobody seems to talk about it even though he's having a pretty run at Pitt.

ijohnb

April 17th, 2019 at 2:11 PM ^

I had a lot of contact with State fans during their run to the FF this year.  They have fully bought into the "conspiracy-fake news" angle with regard to Izzo.  Now every new example that comes out regarding him is only additional evidence as to that "conspiracy."

True Blue 9

April 17th, 2019 at 2:57 PM ^

I dunno.....I'm getting a bad feeling in my gut that Pierce is just gonna be Cam Johnson 2.0 and UNC will sneak in last minute and scoop him up. 

Hyland seems like a good option so far. 

Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but I'm feeling like there's a 50% chance next year we end up actually taking a slight step back on defense (without Matthews, it makes sense) but actually are more balanced on offense. The other 50% chance to me feels like this is 2015-2016 season and we barely sneak into the tournament and are pretty meddling all season. 

I have faith in Beilein, the magician, but feels like we don't particularly have that many exciting options and if we strike out on those.....yikes for next year and hope for a better year in 2020-2021. 

Everyone Murders

April 17th, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^

Thank you for noting that Payne essentially confessed to raping that woman with Appling.  To not bring charges with this sort of evidence goes well beyond "prosecutorial discretion" and points to a system fixed to allow MSU basketball and football players to commit heinous crimes without any consequences.

And now it's credibly alleged to have happened again, with the stock "oh, you don't want to get sideways with MSU athletics" response protocol having apparently been pushed downward.  It gives Izzo supposedly plausible deniability. 

Never stop beating the Appling-Payne drum.  That was a whitewash that even Penn State could arguably shake its head at.

MSU's athletic and academic administration was trash, is trash, and will (apparently) for the foreseeable future be trash.  F*ck them all with a rake.

Watching From Afar

April 17th, 2019 at 5:29 PM ^

As I've said before, until a situation arises that would call into question the moral/ethical standards of Harbaugh/Beilein, we can all say that we would disown them and be as critical as we are in regards to MSU. Hopefully we'll never have to have that conversation.

What I will say is MSU and the fan base's response to the entirety of the last 2-3 years has been abhorrent and made me seriously question my relationship with people who have ignored situations, even those situations that involved acquaintances of ours who were victims.

Nassar was a lone employee, not tied to the athletic department in any way. Then it comes out that MSU and the AD didn't investigate credible allegations for years. And then it comes out Nassar's boss (Strample) is also a disgusting creep. Crickets.

Dantonio has long forgiven some serious transgressions and outright dangerous behavior for years. But he's "just giving the kid a second chance" including a guy who was in jail for cracking a guy's skull and ending his hockey career.

Izzo, similarly, has looked the other way/had plausible deniability while he had multiple questionable actions taken by players over the span of a decade. "ESPN is out to get him!"

There have been serious people who brushed off that walkon basketball player who was charged with 4th degree assault as "grabbing a girl's butt, hardly worth involving the police" while calling Harbaugh a sexual assault apologist for letting Perry stay on the team for... grabbing a girl's butt (and suspending him for multiple games, the bowl, and spring practice).

Gibbons and Lewan are the boogeymen for MSU. Even though the Title IX regulations at the time were followed by the University (but the buck stops at the AD and football coach to know these things unless it's MSU) and not until the new Title IX rules were established did the case get reexamined. Lewan is a POS, no one argues otherwise. Those reports were also secondhand accounts but are taken as truth.

Point being, we are all hypocritical to some extent. What we're hypocritical about has not been remotely equivalent.

FatGuyTouchdown

April 17th, 2019 at 5:49 PM ^

Ok so the Swenson thing seems like a bit of revisionist history. Yes, Drevno didn't want him and yes I think the coaching staff was pretty clear about what was happening and he didn't get as blindsided as the somehow holier-than-thou-Except For the safety of student assistants, women and coaches wives rivals want to make it look, it does also fall on Harbaugh. He was the head coach, and he hired Drevno so if Drevno didn't want Swenson, Harbaugh also didn't want Swenson. Drevno sucked, but if you put your faith in your guys, you also fucked up.

Hotel Putingrad

April 17th, 2019 at 6:58 PM ^

Unfortunately Bailey's MSU presser came at the most convenient time for Izzo. Had that dropped during the season or right before the tournament, maybe then some media person with integrity would have asked him point blank, " why does gang rape appear to be a systemic problem in your program?"

saveferris

April 18th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^

LOLSparty

Please let there be a road version of this abomination that they wear to Ann Arbor this November.  I want to witness the embarrassment on the faces of the visiting fans in person.