There's Always Next Year: Hockey Comment Count

Brian

Michigan ends up one win short of the NCAA tournament for the third straight year, so here's this. I'm operating under the assumption that Berenson will continue, but it's not like anything is going to change in terms of personnel if he decides to retire.

GRADUATING

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Hockey has a LaVell Blanchard now [Paul Sherman]

Michigan loses Zach Hyman and Travis Lynch from the forward corps, plus defensemen Mike Chiasson, Brennan Serville, and Andrew Sinelli. Third goalie Luke Dwyer also departs.

Hobey finalist Hyman is obviously the biggest loss from that group. Hyman was incredible driving zone time and scoring points next to Larkin, and disrupting that line is a great misfortune. Other than Hyman, though, losses are minimal. Lynch was a fourth-liner; Chiasson barely played; Sinelli bounced between F and D. Serville is the most prominent non-Hyman departure, and his career was a frustrating exercise that saw little improvement.

MICHIGAN HOCKEY SUMMER CANDIDATES

IE, guys who might leave during the interminable attrition period between the final game and the first one next year.

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Larkin was rather good. [Bill Rapai]

There are two prime candidates: Wings first-round pick Dylan Larkin and pending top-ten draftee Zach Werenski. Either departing would be a surprise. Larkin recently reiterated that he's "not looking to go as soon as possible" and talks like he is not even considering a departure:

"The future is bright and I think with all of us coming back, we will be even stronger next year."

Meanwhile the Wings tend to leave their prospects in lower leagues a painfully long time. Larkin is not likely to be an impact NHL player next year, and smart organizations tend to delay signing their prospects to team-friendly entry level contracts anyway.

Meanwhile, Werenski is already at Michigan and is a defenseman. Defenders develop more slowly and Michigan has had only one  D leave after one year: Jacob Trouba. Werenski was pretty good last year, but he was not Trouba. Werenski skipped his last year of high school to enroll, so next year "should" be his freshman year.

Aside from those two, Copp and Compher would probably be the most attractive to NHL teams but don't seem like the type to go early or have their teams pressure them hard. Recruit Kyle Connor seems particularly set on Michigan over major junior but if he gets drafted by an NCAA-phobic organization they could pressure him to change course.

Never say never when you're talking about Michigan Hockey Summer, but it looks like Michigan will get through unscathed.

INCOMING

The aforementioned Kyle Connor is the star of the class, a lightning-quick forward with slick hands who led the league in scoring and cracked the top ten of all-time USHL career points on the way. He is projected as a mid-first round pick in the upcoming NHL draft and should slot directly on to a scoring line.

F Brendan Warren will arrive from the NTDP and should be a second-or-third round pick; he had a solid 16-16-32 line in 49 games for the U18s last year. Chris Dilks scouted him in November:

Warren has always been an excellent skater, and he showed a good compete level and willingness to work along the boards and go into rough areas along the ice. But he just hasn't developed into the scorer that many thought he would when he committed to Michigan at a young age. Warren held his own when he took a few shifts with the top scoring line, but he's not a player that's going to create a lot of offense for himself and others.

Sounds like a version of Motte that's a half-step worse on offense.

Former Canadian junior B winger Connor Murphy also enters. He moved to the USHL for his final year of competition before college and struggled to maintain the torrid scoring pace that first brought him to the attention of various scouts. His 13-14-27 in 51 games with Chicago indicates a guy who might develop but should be looked at as a fourth-liner to start.

On defense, Michigan has a couple of potential draftees in Joe Cecconi and Nick Boka. Cecconi is projected as a third or fourth rounder and has a reputation as a steady, big stay-at-home guy:

“He does everything well – moves well, uses the size that he has,” Central Scouting’s David Gregory said. “But his presence and how he uses the game from the back end is one of the most impressive things.”

Cecconi’s calmness with the puck and mobility has impressed Gregory. So has his rapid development. He noticed improvements in just a short span during the summer.

Gregory wants to track Cecconi’s offensive improvements this season.

“He snaps the puck when he passes it, shoots it, so there’s going to be opportunities for him to be involved in offense as well,” he said. “He was getting a little bit of power-play time, albeit it in preseason, and he’s on a good team, so we’ll see.”

At 6'2" and almost 210 as of a year ago, he should be physically ready to play. He's the highest-rated USHL defenseman in this year's draft.

Boka played with the U18s last year and might be a late draft pick. Like Cecconi, he's a relatively big and mobile defensive defenseman, with just 7 points last year. His star has apparently fallen some since he was rated almost on par with Werenski by Over The Boards:

4. 97 D Nick Boka – NTDP U18 – Michigan

The Michigan recruit has an aggressive, athletic upside that could come on very strong in his draft year. Wins battles in the tough areas of the ice and can provide puck support. We like Werenski’s total skillset more right now, but Boka could easily emerge as the best American talent on the blue line in this draft behind Hanifin.

Boka committed a while ago so Yost Built put together a full dossier on him; he decommitted from MSU, giving Michigan the tantalizing possibility of rolling out a maximum-MSU-troll pairing of Boka and East Lansing native Cutler Martin.

If Michigan does lose a player to the NHL or other attrition, they could fill the hole by accelerating a player who is currently ticketed for 2016; the most likely player there would be Cooper Marody, who's both old enough to be eligible for this NHL draft and projected to go in the middle rounds of it. He finished 11th in USHL scoring this year, so he is probably ready to contribute in college.

Michigan is also in the conversation for uber-prospect Auston Matthews, who scored 87(!) points for the NTDP U18s as an underager this year and is projected to be the top pick in the 2016 draft. He's a certain one-and-done who has not yet decided on a team for next year. Like Werenski, Matthews would be entering college a year before his time. He is not only deciding between the WHL and college but also between BC, BU, Michigan, etc.

WHAT ABOUT GOALIE?

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Racine was excellent… this weekend [Sherman]

Mike Spath reports that Michigan will delay the enrollment($) of Hayden Lavigne after he struggled to a .881 USHL save percentage last year.

That would leave Michigan rolling with the same two guys who could not lock the job down this year unless they bring in a grad transfer… and they are looking for those. Spath says they are vetting former UNH goalie Casey DeSmith, who was booted from the Wildcat team after domestic violence accusations that passed muster at neither the court nor university level*. There are also a couple of guys in platoon situations at smaller schools, like Alaska's Sean Cahill, who might be interested.

*[Link is the text of a press release from DeSmith's parents and should be taken in that light. I couldn't find any actual reporting on the case.]

USELESS BUT MANDATORY LINE GUESSES

1. Selman-Copp-Larkin

A senior version of Copp is probably the nearest equivalent to Hyman on the roster; Larkin will have to drive more play next year, with Copp helping win the possession battles and Selman continuing his role as the guy who gets in good places and finishes.

2. Kile-Compher-Connor

Compher can return to his natural center spot between two extremely skilled offensive players.

3. Shuart-Nieves-Motte

I like Shuart's combination of size and speed and feel he'll move up as he enters his upperclass years; he is a prime candidate for Random Breakout Forward. Nieves has been a bit of a disappointment so far but did put up a solid 7-20-27 line and has his uses.

Motte is a generally talented fellow without any standout talent other than doggedness; I do wonder if Michigan might reunite him with Compher, as the two played very well together when they were freshmen and Compher had an off year on the scoresheet.

4. Calderone-Warren-Dancs

Take your pick of fourth liners. Dancs played in almost every game but was penalty-prone and –4 on the year. Calderone got 28 games last year and showed a little bit of offense (3-6-9); Warren is probably the most talented of the remaining forwards.

(Also: Talcott, Allen, Murphy)

Talcott and Allen did little in limited time a year ago; Murphy will probably need a year to adjust to college.

USELESS BUT MANDATORY D PAIRING GUESSES

On defense, the roster doesn't really lend itself to traditional 1-2-3 pairings since each one will have an established left-hander and a question mark or two on the right, but in very vague order:

1. Werenski-Cecconi

Werenski is enormously talented and began coming into his own late last year as a puck-rushing offensive defenseman. The defense bit could still use some work—no surprise given that last year was scheduled to be his NTDP U18 season until he accelerated. Add some weight and get him more acquainted with what he's supposed to do without the puck and you're gonna have a good time.

As for Cecconi, normally you would not want to put a freshman on your top pairing but Michigan's top three returning D are all left-handed shots. A 6'2" stay-at-home guy who shoots opposite Werenski and is #70 in the current CSB sounds like a good idea.

2. Martin-Lohan

Martin was probably Michigan's best all-around defender by the end of last year. He's physical without being penalty-prone (just 16 PIMs compared to Downing's 76), he has a nasty snap shot from the point, and he doesn't make the boggling decisions some of his compatriots have made. In a season full of defensive frustrations he was a lone bright spot.

Lohan was just a guy last year but he did play every game and didn't make many glaring mistakes until a bogglingly glaring one against Minnesota. He could end up opposite any of the lefties; it mostly depends on whether any of the freshmen clearly outperform him.

3. Downing-Boka

Downing's eventful year featured a 6-16-22 line plus those penalty minutes. He was erratic, laying out big hits and giving up odd-man rushes. The +/- gap between the three left-handed defensemen being discussed here is informative: Martin was +12, Werenski +11, Downing +3. He's frustrating.

Boka will probably slot in as a third-pairing stay-at-home guy.

Also: De Jong, Piazza, Porikos

De Jong got 23 games before being bumped from the lineup in favor of Sinelli; he was weak on the puck and Michigan tended to get stuck in their own end when he was on the ice. He will be called into action frequently as various defensemen invoke the ire of the coaches.

Piazza saw ten games, in which he did absolutely nothing I remember—not always bad for D. Porikos didn't play and seems to be just filling out the roster.

WELL?

If they do get everyone back and a year older, the offense should be at about that level again: while Connor won't replace Hyman's production his addition plus an extra year for the rest of the eight scoring line players probably will. Some sort of regression to the mean is likely, but they should still score a ton.

Defense and goalie remain problems. Michigan managed to miss the tournament this year despite scoring almost four goals a game, a feat no one else has managed since the internet started having stats on it. (In fact the only team to get worse than a two seed was 2003 Michigan.)

The goaltenders collapsed from a year ago, when Nagelvoort had a year impressive enough to get him drafted as an overager. The defense was possibly worse—those save percentages were negatively impacted by the improbable odd man rushes given away on the regular.

And that's an area I'm not sure gets better. Michigan hasn't seen a lot of improvement from their defensemen since Pearson left. The good guys showed up good and the ones who weren't so good stayed that way. Late in the third period of the Minnesota game, Downing stepped up to lay a thunderous hit… and gave up a two on one as a result. That stuff happens all the time now. The goal to tie it 2-2 was Lohan getting far too aggressive and turning a harmless neutral zone play into a two on one.

That stuff is now all too typical: errors borne of nonsense aggression. At this point you can't just wave that away with "they'll learn." They might. Recent history makes you a little dubious they will.

Comments

turd ferguson

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^

The Casey DeSmith thing could be a pretty fascinating story to follow this summer.  He's potentially a major upgrade who could single-handedly change the outlook for 2015-16, but Michigan will have to do its homework on that one.  It'll be interesting to be on the other side of one of these things after the Athletic Department has dismissed a few guys itself.

gwkrlghl

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^

(self-five)

A few thoughts:

  • I'll so miss Hyman. I've never seen a college player be able to use his body so effectively to just keep the puck forever. It was amazing to watch.
  • I wonder if Nieves won't finally break out. Dude always seems to create chances and then shoot just wide or right into the goalies gut. Wouldn't shock me to see him put it together all of a sudden be our top scorer. A Hyman-esque leap perhaps.
  • I agree with Shuart too though. I was impressed with him. I didn't expect much of him other than to be a 4th line grinder type his whole career but he made good things happen a few times this year that led me to believe he's got talent to move up the line chart as his career progresses
  • Boka will be interesting. I saw people tabbing him as a first/second rounder as recently as this fall in mock drafts.

The offense looks great again next year but as noted, the problem lies with the D which I don't have much optimism will improve significantly. Though I'd imagine:

Addition of Boka + Cecconi + 1 yr exp > Loss of Serville + Sinelli

I'd bet Racine locks down the job, the offense takes a half step back while the D is incrementally better (20's, instead of 38) and we get a 2-3 seed.

Canadian

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^

Well isn't that exactly what everyone was saying after Racine took over for Rutledge? Racine is a streaky goaltender. His highs are good enough to trick us into thinking he could be a #1 goalie, but his lows are so low you wonder where Dwyer is (well maybe not that extreme).
One thing that was clear to me during the B1G tournament was that the other teams in the conference all got the memo to test Racine's glove. He for some reason has the tendency to stop the shot with the glove but not catch it cleanly which leads to rebounds in the crease or even just pucks deflecting off the glove into the net.
Nagelvoort is the better positional goalie. He also is a bit streaky where his highs have you thinking he could be good enough to win you a few games (see his run last season) but then he has some awful brain farts (3 in one game @ Munn) and tends to get down on himself after giving up a goal (which leads to more goals).

Mr Mackey

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^

Should we root for Werenski/Connor to be drafted by a certain team? I know that some like to rush their prospects and make it harder for them to stay in college and others (like the Red Wings) are fine with them staying. With Werenski looking like a top ten pick, his team will need obviously need help, but is there a team we should hope they go to or don't go to?

WCHBlog

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^

Remember that time about five years Dean Lombardi said Michigan has no clue how to coach defensemen and we all laughed because Michigan had so much success and the Kings were terrible?

Kind of interesting to look back at that now.

Canadian

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

I'm not a big nhl fan but obviously you want Werenski to be drafted by a team that has established talent on the blue line. The picture will become clearer as the teams slot themselves into their draft position. I'm going to be doing some research into the NHL rosters and who is under contract for next year. I hope to get a decent idea of good landing spots for our top guys.

Sac Fly

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^

I was at the Steel game yesterday, the 3rd time I've seen Kyle Connor this year. 4th time seeing Murphy.

Kyle Connor is about as dynamic of an offensive talent as I've seen in person. It's hard to explain until you see for yourself, he's that good.

Murphy is small. Tons of offensive talent, but short and playing against much stronger players for the first time. Early in the year he was everywhere, now it looks like the grind of the season may be wearing on him.

Also, I've seen Warren and can not fully understand his game. He puts up an average number of points, but in a secondary role and it's disappointing. He just doesn't take over games.

Boka much of the same. On U-17's him and Warren were overshadowed, but players left early going into U18 and opened up primary positions to take over. Neither player stepped up in primary roles.

Esterhaus

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:53 PM ^

 

Coach Berenson will step down at some point in the not-too-distant future. Unless Zoltan, Space Emperor, authorizes the cloning and memory implantation of additional Berenson Units, what does our hockey staff look like five years from now? Please overlook this post if I have missed that discussion here.

mGrowOld

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:52 PM ^

Can one of you puckheads give a brief explanation of how the NHL and other league's draft impact both our current and incoming players?  This is something I've never understood (unlike football or basketball where once you declare you're gone) so I'm hoping one of you can help an old dog learn a new trick.

Canadian

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^

Some organizations don't like the college game as their prospects won't play as many games in the NCAA vs the CHL. Other organizations (like the Red Wings) have traditionally allowed their prospects time to groom in the juniors (CHL or NCAA) and then a couple years at the AHL level (Grand Rapids) before really even considering moving them to the NHL. This is why I think we will see Larkin a minimum of one more year at Michigan, maximum two seasons.

You also have Organizations who NEED talent at certain positions filled right away. While I don't think Werenski is NHL ready I wouldn't be shocked if a team that is light on defense would want him playing in the AHL right away and be there to call up to the NHL at sometime next season (teams like Edmonton and Toronto come to mind).

With all that said I don't watch much NHL hockey and not sure of teams setup and not sure who will be drafting where.

mGrowOld

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^

That's interestiing.  So unlike football & basketball where the NCAA makes the eligibility rules in hockey it's the professional league and in some cases even the team themselves that decides who can stay and who needs to go?  That's quite different from what I see in other sports and not at all what I thought.

Thanks for explaining that to me.

Alton

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:04 PM ^

I wouldn't say that the NCAA sets any draft eligibility rules in football & basketball.  The difference is whether or not you have to "declare" yourself eligible for the draft.

* In football & basketball, a player has to "declare" for the draft if they want to be drafted prior to their college eligibility expiring.  The NCAA simply has a rule that the act of "declaring" is an act of professionalism, and renders the person ineligible.

* In hockey, there is no need to "declare"--a player is automatically eligible once they turn 18.  The NHL rules say that a team retains the rights to that player for 4 years after the draft, so there is no need for somebody who wants to maintain NCAA eligibility to do anything that would jeopardize that eligibility.

* In baseball, the rules are more complicated (a drafting team only keeps the rights to a player for 3 months), but a player can be drafted one time after he turns 18, and, if he doesn't sign, again (and, possibly, again) after he turns 21.  Sort of--it's more complicated than that.

So the effect being drafted has on your NCAA eligibility depends on the rules of that professional sports league--whether or not you have to "declare."

JeepinBen

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^

Players are drafted and where the players play is up to them. All good prospects typically have thier rights owned by an NHL team. What the player then does is up to the player (often with team input). Some NHL teams will steer players to certain junior teams, or they're fine with them going to the NCAA. Very rarely will a drafted player head up to immediate NHL team control (Top 1-5 guys can go straight to the Minors (AHL) and skip juniors, but it's rare). Once a player signs a contract (either an NHL/AHL contract, or a Junior contract) they're no longer NCAA eligible. The player decides when to sign based on the offer.

Jack Johnson was drafted by Carolina, who wanted to sign him direct to an NHL contract after the NCAA season and he refused, stayed in Ann Arbor another year. Carolina wasn't happy and traded his rights to LA.

gwkrlghl

March 23rd, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^

is that the Sabres are so committed to rebuilding-via-tanking that I'd say the better Compher is the less likely they are to pull him up. The Sabres have several of their prospects that could be playing in the NHL sitting in a holding pattern in Rochester (AHL) so they can make their team worse. Thus the Sabres have little incentive to pull Compher out right now as he's doing exactly what many of their other prospects are doing: training at lower levels, biding time till the Sabres field a competivie team again

bronxblue

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

It's funny. for a couple of years I've read these post mortem and they all basically say the team should be way better but there are questions on the defense. For once it works be great for that not too be the case. I fully expect Larkin to put up big numbers and for the first 2 lines to not miss a beat. But that's a lot of freshmen on the defense looking to get lots of ice time.

25dodgebros

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:48 PM ^

Let's not kid ourselves.  Next year's team will not be a 2 or 3 seed, or even in the tournament, unless there is a coaching change.  I love Red dearly and it breaks my heart to see him go out like this but as long as he is there the team will have a mediocre record.  UM is 3-6 vs PSU since PSU joined the Div I.  This year UM lost at home to Michigan State, New Hampshire and Penn State - all teams they should beat at home.  They lost to Ferris and OSU on the road and MSU at JLA.  If they win just the home games they likely sneak into the tournament. Add one road win from either OSU, Ferris or MSU and they are definitely in.   The only quality teams they beat this year were Minnnesota at home and UMass-Lowell on the road.  I didn't see the UM Lowell game but the score suggests a total meltdown of the UMass goaltending.  When you consistently lose to  inferior teams it seems obvious there is something amiss on the coaching side.  PSU beats us like a drum (never thought I'd type that) because they compete at a higher level for the whole game.  Same for MSU.  Red's recent teams simply do not  play hard enough for long enough to be winners. They consistenly do bone-headed things that suggest lack of focus.  They just don't have the compete level necessary to be good.  Until the coach changes that won't change and neither will  sitting out the tournament.  

Sac Fly

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^

I wouldn't knock the players for compete level, because they put it all on the line.

The problem for me is that we're still in 1991, when Red's transition attack was revolutionary because cycle hockey was status quo. They could cycle 9 really fast forwards on the ice and go straight over the blueline with iso's all day long. It's basic, it's simple and it's stone aged.

Really good transition teams now are always changing how they attack, especially with zone entry. We still go 3 straight over the line.

The game has changed. We haven't.

Blue Durham

March 23rd, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^

Michigan had the #2 offense in the NCAA, and your comment seems to put the blame on the offense and how Michigan attacks the blue line. The stats (and the eyeball test during the games) would seem to indicate that the problems lie elsewhere.

Michigan Arrogance

March 23rd, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^

I think what's changed is how disciplied our Dmen (or how good their decision-making is) are and how consistent our goaltending is.

It would be great for M to recruit a goalie who turns out to be a stone-cold killer, like MSU has 2-3 times in the last 15-20 years.

It would be great for the coaching staff to actually teach the Dmen when to pinch and when not to pinch.

 

 

Lou MacAdoo

March 23rd, 2015 at 9:31 PM ^

I really don't understand this. As a defenseman they have to know when to pinch and when to drop back. The two plays at the end of that game were so foolish. You cannot give up an odd man rush in a tie game, let alone for a championship. These guys are playing high level d1 hockey and they're making a high school mistakes. Maybe they're coached to be this aggressive? We haven't had a great goalie in a while. Hunwick came out of nowhere so he doesn't count. Why is it so hard to recruit a top end goalie to michigan? Is it coaching? I don't know but it's frustrating.

gwkrlghl

March 23rd, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^

You seem to be placing the blame on the offense. Teams scoring 4 goals a game are normally locks to be 1 or 2 seeds but our defense is the huge outlier in that group (from the table Brian linked). 38 is awful for a program like Michigan. So unless changing the offense would start netting us 6 goals a game, the problem is on the other end of the ice

Gucci Mane

March 23rd, 2015 at 4:50 PM ^

I think Kile will have a huge year coming up, kid is very talented. As far as D goes I think Red may have recruited for potential instead of the steadiness that is required to play solid D. Having a great hockey sense is not something that can be easily taught, and while our D are talented, some of their hockey IQs are lacking.

CriticalFan

March 23rd, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^

NCAA rules for hockey need to be expanded to basketball, so players can be drafted yet still play for their college team until the pros think they're ready.

Maize_Out

March 23rd, 2015 at 5:40 PM ^

Man, to think at some point I played on the same team as Boka. Now we is going to be playing for Michigan and I don't even play anymore. As for next year, of course the offense will take small hit due to Hyman. But the defense can only get better (hopefully), and on Saturday Racine had one of if not the best game in net all season. So hopefully he can carry that over to next season.

TWharry

March 23rd, 2015 at 9:13 PM ^

....I really wish you guys would leave the analysis to hockey people.

Hockey people understand +/-, understand how little it actually means, how it doesn't say ANYTHING AT ALL about an individual player's defensive skills, ability or play, and understand that the idea of putting a second team All-Big 10 D on Michigan's third pairing is asinine.

Canadian

March 24th, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^

You think +/- is a viable stat? It's something to look at for defensemen but it is far from being an indicator of how good they are. If defenseman A throws the puck right out in the slot to the centre of the opposing team and he burrows it what did the two wingers, an the other d-man do to deserve the negative statistic?

If a winger dumps and changes and the replacement isn't even in the offensive zone why does he deserve a positive over the winger who dumped and changed?

Michigan Arrogance

March 24th, 2015 at 6:24 PM ^

not really, but make an arguement for why it's not.

I agree with the premis. But in aggregate, are you saying that over the course of 40 games a players' poor +/-  is more indicitive of the poor play of his teammates?

unless he is consistently paired with the worst Dman on the team, or always on the ice with the 4th line, or plays more on the PK than on the PP, I'd say that +/- is a fair initial judgement of the results of his play, over the course of a season.

5v5 +/- for the pairing (again, over the course of the season) would be better.

Canadian

March 24th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^

Power play goals don't count as a positive or a negative.

The stat is influenced by team performance rather than player performance. It used to be viewed as meaning a lot more than it is today (the NHL discontinued their +/- in the 2000s). It's like W-L records for goalies and pitchers. Yes they still have some meaning but should not be used in the measure of how good an individual player is.