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Seth February 21st, 2022 at 2:06 PM

Early in Michigan’s loss yesterday to Wisconsin, Devante’ Jones leapt for an offensive rebound and caught it. On his way down, Badgers guard Brad Davison, the most notoriously dirty player in college basketball, kicked Jones’s feet out from under him. The Michigan point guard toppled to the ground. The perpetrator grabbed at the ball. The officials awarded Wisconsin possession on the arrow. Jones walked away.

The man Jones plays for had an opportunity to disengage from this:

What he did was hit—or to be more precise, down-slappily head-wuggled Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft. Another view, where you can hear some of the exchange:

Howard’s slap precipitated a mini-brawl, with several Wisconsin assistants and players getting into it with a couple of Michigan players, and various others hanging around on the periphery or trying to break it up. He was quite clearly the most at fault of anybody for what transpired. It was a massive embarrassment for the university. It quite clearly can't happen again. Let's try to discuss it.

[After THE JUMP: Zaprudering the film, reaction, what’s next?]
 
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What happened?

Here's what I think I saw, to the best of my abilities, from a couple of videos, and trying as best I can to set aside my obvious Michigan biases.

So with a few seconds and a safe lead late in the game, Wisconsin head coach Greg Gard called a timeout on an inbound, ostensibly to extend his team’s clock from 4 to 10 seconds. Howard evidently took that as a cheap shot, a way to make his players wallow in their loss. As the coaches crossed in the handshake line, Howard told Gard “I’ll remember that shit.”

At this point Gard stepped in front with a “Woah, hey” and grabbed Howard’s arm to stop him from going by. It’s plausible Gard meant to explain his timeout, but the physicality clearly angered Howard, who grabbed Gard’s sweater, then let it go and put his finger in Gard’s face, repeating “Don’t touch me, don’t fucking touch me.”

Gard began yelling back, and his recruiting director, Kyle Blackbourn, arrived, then also put his hands on Howard. Jaron Faulds arrived and began pulling Howard away while a university police officer was pulling Gard back. Faulds put himself between the coaches, who were still going at it—what I can hear is Howard repeating “Don’t fucking touch me” and Gard replying “Oh you big. You’re a big man?” Howard was showing his fist.

Into this entered three people. Wisconsin assistant Sharif Chambliss inserted himself between the coaches and Faulds, yelling at Howard. Chambliss attracted the attention of the police officer, who switched from Gard to Chambliss, who in turn slipped behind Faulds and continued yelling at Howard.

At the same time Terrence Williams II appeared at Howard’s shoulder. Trying to lip-read I’m pretty sure he started by telling Blackbourn “c’mon man,” then twice told him “Stop!” For a moment it seemed things were going to break up, as a Big Ten official had arrived as well.

At this point Krabbenhoft inserted himself and started yelling at Howard and pushing at Terrence Williams II. Whatever Krabbenhoft said, it attracted everyone’s attention. Faulds looked right at him. The Big Ten official turned his attention to preventing Krabbenhoft from getting to Howard. Williams and Faulds joined the official in holding Krabbenhoft back and Blackbourn continued yelling and pushing into Williams. The group shifted back into the collection of Michigan players as Hunter Dickinson and Frankie Collins were pulling him away. Moussa Diabate stepped in next to Faulds.

Kraggenhoft caught the attention too of Howard, who now returned to the heart of the scrum by hopping behind the Big Ten official. Howard then used his open hand to reach over Faulds and half-slap/half-face mush Krabbenhoft across the left side of his head with some force.

The slappyfwish (technical term) wasn’t injurious, but it wasn’t soft either, and looked worse on camera because Howard balled his fist afterwards. That action, more than any other, precipitated the violence that followed. That it was committed by Michigan’s head coach is the reason it’s the story of the night.

After the slap, Krabbenhoft was pulled away by a couple of Wisconsin players. Blackbourn began grappling Williams’s wrists while Williams was seemingly trying to pull away. Michigan assistants Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter jumped in to break things up, with Hunter yelling at Michigan’s players to back away and Washington arming apart the center of the melee. Blackbourn gave Washington a shove with his fists (I wouldn’t interpret it as a punch), then too got pulled to the rear.

As Blackbourn was pulled away, UW assistant Sharif Chambliss, who had surged towards Howard at the slap, apparently leapt on Williams, taking him to the ground near the stands. I saw some Wisconsin fans online arguing that Williams pulled Chambliss down, but Williams’s hands were both clearly caught by Blackbourn when Chambliss came through.

The two of them disappear then you see Williams is up and Chambliss is past him (to the left of the yellow sweatshirt fan) and the two are grappling as Chambliss is trying to attack Howard, with the officer between them. The officer manages to get Howard away with the help of some Michigan players, and Chambliss goes down. A Michigan staffer I couldn’t identify (I think it’s Jon Sanderson) saw this and curled his body over Chambliss, shielding him, while Saddi Washington stepped in to clear people away from the fallen coach. The staffer (Sanderson?) apparently said something that got Chambliss to calm down, then let him up.

Chambliss got up near Adrian Nunez, who backed off. At this point Wisconsin’s Johnny Davis, who’d been helping to hold back Krabbenhoft, ran in to retrieve Chambliss.

When Chambliss went down, Williams turned around to find a Wisconsin player, Jahcobi Neath, who had entered the fray and started throwing punches at him. Williams punched back, then Diabate too took swings at Neath before they were pulled apart by Hunter. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl found Williams and calmed him down.

By this point things were deescalating. Gard walked back towards the Michigan players and yelled “Get off the court” then something inaudible. Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate. The final act, once the teams were separated, was from Brad Davison, who was trying to lead his teammates back over towards where Michigan was exiting the court under the guise of going to sing “Varsity,” which I presume is a postgame tradition. Davison’s intention is not hard to read.

Finally a UW assistant dropped a late-90s reference you kids aren’t old enough to understand.

In a short postgame presser Howard explained “someone” touched him and he didn’t respond well to that:

This was not, as I understand it, an apology. Gard only explained the reasoning for his timeout.

Let’s talk about culture.

This is not the first time that Howard has been involved in an altercation with another Big Ten coach that threatened to turn violent. This was the incident last year with Maryland’s Mark Turgeon:

Howard, who received a double technical and was thrown out of the game, explained his actions thusly:

“He said to me ‘Juwan I’m not gonna let you talk to me, you don’t talk to me ever again’ and he charged at me,” Howard said. “...I was raised by my grandmother and also by Chicago. When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.”

Those words resonated with a lot of people, including myself, at the time. Not all childhoods had this lesson, but in mine I learned the only way to not be a target was, in my father’s words “to make sure they learn the first time that a second time will hurt too much to be worth it.” It wasn’t until well into adulthood, when I was explaining the origin of a permanently misshapen bump on the left side of my left forehead, that I even questioned if that was the right lesson.

To say that my experience as the rare Jew in suburbia is comparable to what was going on in Coach Howard’s head when he down-slapped the Badger assistant would be ridiculous. I do not know his lived experience. I do not know what the assistant said. I cannot know what it means to a person of color to be grabbed by a white man, except I know enough people who’ve told me that would produce a visceral reaction not to try it with anybody.

I understood through my lens what he meant by “When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.” That is the culture that many of us grew up in. But—and we have to agree on this—it’s not the culture of the University of Michigan, and it should not be the culture passed on to those who root or play basketball for that institution.

“Provoked?”

This is my response to anyone still trying to argue this morning that Howard’s actions are justified by Gard’s. If Howard had grabbed the sweater, let go, wagged a finger, and that had been the end of it, we could talk about how Gard’s actions reasonably precipitated Howard’s response. Howard’s response, however, is so vastly beyond the aggressiveness of Gard’s, and the aggressiveness of his assistants, that the two are not comparable. Exchanges of words are not the same as exchanges of blows.

There are three crystal clear moments when the situation heightened:

  1. When Howard grabbed Gard’s sweater and yelled “Don’t touch me!” which brought the UW assistants and Williams over.
  2. When Krabbenhoft slid in and said whatever precipitated Howard’s hit, which besides Howard’s reaction, appeared to induce the policeman and the Big Ten official to stop pulling the coaches apart and refocus on Krabbenhoft.
  3. When Howard slapped Krabbenhoft.

Two of those three moments were Juwan’s alone. I am receptive to reasons Howard had those reactions, but short of Krabbenhoft slinging certain words I think we would have heard about by now, there’s no valid interpretation of #1 and #3 that I can think of which would absolve Howard of his responsibility to deescalate.

In other words, stop arguing that these were equal. The worst actor in this whole situation was clearly Michigan’s head coach Juwan Howard.

What happens next?

There will be consequences. Howard will no doubt be suspended and fined for at least the maximum two games that the league can enforce under its sportsmanship policy.

As Quinn says, no doubt the incident with Turgeon, for which Howard narrowly escaped suspension, will factor. Michigan can (and probably will) choose to join the league and add to the suspension. Manuel’s crafted release suggests Michigan expects disciplinary actions, and leaves open the door to add to it:

I expect the league will hand out the maximum two games to Howard, and Michigan will tack on one or two extra. I would not be surprised if it’s more—up to the end of the regular season—because they have five games left and the season ends in less than two weeks.

His comments after the Turgeon incident don’t help his cause. That too was an explanation, which is closer to a justification than an apology. It suggests Howard believes, as a lot of us who grew up in the United States in the 20th Century grew up believing, that using violence to protect yourself and your people is how an adult should act.

I also fully understand that Howard’s perspective can be informed by experiences and history that I cannot fathom. Most non-white people I know would experience a visceral reaction from being grabbed in an authoritive manner by a white man, to the point where that’s something I know not to do. That wasn’t Juwan’s explanation, and not an excuse, but certainly part of the context.

None of that context changes the simple truth: for the head coach of Michigan basketball, this was not acceptable. If Michigan uses this opportunity to impress anything upon its head coach, it’s “Walk away.” The next time Howard speaks publicly, I want to hear that’s the plan.

What should it be?

Three or four games would cover the severity, in my opinion. Firing him would seem drastic. His action sparked a melee that could have resulted in serious injuries. It was also a slap, an action which we’d call a 15-yard penalty in football, a 2-minute roughing minor in hockey, or a “routine basketball play” on the same court an hour earlier. The severity of the infraction is due to Howard’s position as head coach, and the context that led to further violence between the teams.

I would not expect any other team would fire their head coach for this unless, e.g. Georgia and Tom Crean, they were just looking for an excuse to fire the coach without paying his buyout. Therefore any argument, to my mind, that Michigan should fire Howard rests in a pretention that Michigan is a holier place. In case that's not clear: it is not.

I also think it would be a very bad look for Michigan to fire Howard over this. While culture does not excuse actions, it’s a framework for understanding them. That goes both ways: Howard has a responsibility to Michigan to uphold the institution’s values while representing them, but Michigan has a responsibility to Howard to understand it doesn’t mean the same thing to a Black man from a poor neighborhood in South Chicago to be grabbed by a white man as the reverse. Pretending there isn’t a difference contributes to a cycle that has kept excellent Black coaches underemployed of the coaching profession, redefining being affected by a systemic problem into a reason to perpetuate it.

That in no way lets Howard off the hook. The school has to be very clear that it’s Howard’s responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What about the Whatabouts?

  • Wisconsin recruiting director Kyle Blackbourn, the guy who deleted a tweet of himself with a bloody tooth, should probably get a suspension for escalating things, grabbing Williams, and shove-punching Saddi.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Sharif Chambliss was one of the instigators and apparently tackled Williams. The video isn’t enough but if he assaulted a player he could be in serious trouble, including the legal kind.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft, the guy who got hit by Howard, added himself to the argument and seemed to be the prime instigator.
  • Michigan’s Terrence Williams II was in the middle of things, and put himself there. He also took several swings at Neath.
  • Wisconsin player Jahcobi Neath entered the fray, was removed, and reentered to throw punches at Williams and Diabate.
  • Michigan’s Moussa Diabate entered when Neath did, and punched at him twice before they were pulled apart.
  • Wisconsin’s Greg Gard returned after most of the scuffle had ended and yelled something at the Michigan players.
  • Michigan’s Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate.
  • Wisconsin’s Chris Vogt was on the periphery, but kept trying to swim in and engage.
  • Wisconsin’s Brad Davison was also on the periphery, and afterwards was trying to reengage hostilities by leading the Badgers towards where Michigan was going to the locker room, under the guise of singing “Varsity” with the students.

Barring more damning video evidence or testimony regarding Chambliss’s actions I would expect Howard to get the biggest punishment, and 1- or 2-game suspensions for the above.

Besides the officials and officers, a number of players and coaches did more than stand around, actively diffusing the violence and herding players back to the locker rooms. For Michigan, Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter did the most of anybody to break up the fighting. S&C coach Jon Sanderson and Jaren Faulds were in there holding people at bay without escalating. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl pulled several of his teammates back, and also pulled Williams out of there and calmed him down. Johnny Davis held Gard back then removed Chambliss from the middle of Michigan’s group. Tyler Higginbottom removed teammates. Analyst Andrew Van Handel was ducking in and out break up the sides and diffuse tensions.

If you’re engaging today with Wisconsin fans, show them the videos if they think their side is completely blameless, but first acknowledge that the worst actor in all of this was Juwan Howard, and that you are appalled by it. Or—you know you can do this—don’t engage with them.

As for Sparties who hop in your mentions, you should know that long before this or the Maryland incident the RCMB has been a nest of perpetual, unchecked racist dog whistling about Howard. Check them out before replying, and if they seem to be looking for a fight, block and move on.

Again, if you are out there talking about this, please start with Howard was the most wrong.

Can a Class B technical be issued to an entire program? Asking for a friend.

lol.

Comments

ribby

February 21st, 2022 at 3:06 PM ^

Michigan coaches have gotten less punishment than Howard will likely get, and continued to coach for years, after doing things worse than what Howard did. 

If you want to make an example of Howard, have at it. But be sure it's really an example, and not just a one-off, to be forgotten the next time a different coach with more friends in high places makes a mistake.

snarling wolverine

February 21st, 2022 at 3:39 PM ^

Michigan coaches have gotten less punishment than Howard will likely get, and continued to coach for years, after doing things worse than what Howard did.

Care to name an example?  I don't recall one of our coaches fighting an opposing coach before.

I do recall Gary Moeller getting into an altercation with a cop, and that cost him his job.

LloydCarr97

February 21st, 2022 at 3:07 PM ^

Seth, that was a great breakdown. As a Black male you hit the nail on the head concerning upbringing and the culture you’re raised in, while still holding all parties involved accountable. Excellent write up.

theintegral

February 21st, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^

Thanks, Seth.  Truly well sourced and written. 

Is there any evidence that Coach Howard is explosive during practice or other stressful situations?

Two points that do not change anything you have presented:

I used to get so angry that the rage spewed out both physically and in language.  99+% of the time I was the kindest, happiest person around.  I know that Coach Howard's behavior is preventable.  

If Coach Howard had not been the last coach in line and Coach Gard the first, there would have been Michigan assistant coaches there to check the bahaviors.   

bighouseinmate

February 21st, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^

I still stand by my assertion that until Wisconsin doles out punishment to their head coach and their assistant who clearly said something that enraged Howard, Michigan should stand par with whatever the b1g hands out. I can think this, and still think that Howard acted inappropriately with the head strike. Without Wisconsin’s head coach doing what he did, it is highly doubtful anything else happens. 

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 3:50 PM ^

Yeah, the response of their AD was incredible to me.  You're really going to sit there and say they didn't do anything wrong and that the tape will prove it when Krabbenhoft clearly runs into a de-escalating situation, pulls his own peacekeeping assistants aside so he can get to Juwan and the Michigan players and ramp the situation back up?  C'mon man.

MGoBlue96

February 21st, 2022 at 4:49 PM ^

Krabbenhoft's interaction with UM players was 100% inappropriate and he clearly came in to instigate. Anyone of this site or Wisconsin side claiming he didn't do anything wrong are literally saying its ok for a coach put his hands on players, etc in a physical manner and I'm sorry that is just never ok. Honestly both sides failed to be the bigger man at multiple points in this whole thing.  

ShadowStorm33

February 21st, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^

Yeah, reading the various takes here I'm clearly in the minority, but personally I'm glad Howard is willing to defend himself and his team against bush league bullshit. When push comes to shove (pun intended), I'd rather have this than Hoke apologizing for the stake in the field.

But then again I think fighting in hockey is one of the best traditions in all of sports...

SD Larry

February 21st, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^

Thank you for this fair and reasonable write up Seth.  Love Coach Howard.  Very sorry he made this bad mistake.  It was a bad scene.  Sorry this will travel with him for quite awhile.  Truly hope for his sake and Michigan's that he learns and grows from this.  

Hope Wisconsin's side receives some careful scrutiny and any discipline warranted as well.  Even with the audio and the video, not exactly clear to me how this whole ugly scene unfolded even after reviewing it many times and whether the Wisconsin assistants contact with Faulds or other Michigan players .  Like others, sad, and very disappointed about what happened there.

Preacher Mike

February 21st, 2022 at 3:17 PM ^

Good break down, Seth. I would only add that Krabbenhoft clearly seemed to be pushing Faulds and Williams as he was shouting at Howard. Which I think would account for some of Howard’s reaction as well, watching an assistant coach from the other team put hands on his players.

mpbear14

February 21st, 2022 at 3:18 PM ^

"This is my response to anyone still trying to argue this morning that Howard’s actions are justified by Gard’s. If Howard had grabbed the sweater, let go, wagged a finger, and that had been the end of it, we could talk about how Gard’s actions reasonably precipitated Howard’s response. Howard’s response, however, is so vastly beyond the aggressiveness of Gard’s, and the aggressiveness of his assistants, that the two are not comparable. Exchanges of words are not the same as exchanges of blows."

This is your prototypical white person perspective of the situation. Do better Seth.

Gard in no way shape or form can grab Howar'ds arm and try to pull him in close as if he's Howard's superior. Never ever under any circumstances is that justifiable and it's especially not justifiable when it's an old white dude doing it to a black coach. 
 

White people see an angry black guy and frame the incident as such (you're no different here, whether intentional or not).  Black people see a strong black man stick up for himself when an old white guy and peer, tries to assert dominance. 

Toby Flenderson

February 21st, 2022 at 3:38 PM ^

Gard should not have touched Juwan Howard. However, Juwan's retaliation was so over the top, and unnecessary. In addition, it escalated the situation to the point where the University and Program are not in good light. Race can help contextualize the conversation, but Juwan was more in the wrong here.

Juwan is representing one of the top 15/20 programs in college. The whole Machismo bullshit of "hey man, you touched me, it's game on" is so wack and we should not be promoting it in our culture. 

Nothing Special

February 21st, 2022 at 3:18 PM ^

Gosh, it really is a hard spot to be put in. Certain people definitely have a very strong fight or flight response and the more you have been in situations where those are triggered, the stronger and more instinctual the reaction. At least, that has been my experience. 

I really have no idea what kind of childhood he had to engrain that kind of attitude and also the kind of league the NBA was for so much of his career where scuffle like that were more common, but you would think that has to play a major role in these random blowups Juwan has occasionally. He seems so composed 95% of the time and then just randomly explodes.

Either way, while that behavior is explainable, it doesn't make it acceptable (duh). I would understand a suspension for at bare minimum the rest of the regular season, but I don't think this warrants firing. 

harmon98

February 21st, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^

Thus far we don't know what Krabbenhoft said. He laid hands on Williams for sure. Whatever happened there is what boiled over Juwan. Krabbenhoft doesn't insert himself as the bouncer and this likely doesn't escalate to the face-wash and kids throwing hands.

IheartMichigan

February 21st, 2022 at 4:20 PM ^

I am with you on this, if Juwan was the biggest aggressor then Krabbenhoft is definitely second. I think he put hands on Faulds first, then Terrance and Juwan saw that and heard whatever he was spewing. Not justifying Juwan, but Krabbenhoft sure did take it to another level and should be punished equally with Juwan.

 

p.s. Davidson is still a 7th year piece of shit senior still trying to sing varsity and live the college days

LloydCarr97

February 21st, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^

If we (Society at large) really want some understanding among people in society then we have to acknowledge each other’s differences. Much like Seth did in this article (which is why the article was great) that doesn’t excuse any behavior that isn’t conducive by a person regardless of background, but it does give insight into the perspective of others. We are all different and that’s ok, what’s not ok is the divisive outrage and prejudice that is associated with certain backgrounds.

mgoDAB

February 21st, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^

The whole situation just makes me so sad. Not only is it extremely embarrassing for the program and school, but it jeopardizes the rest of the season. 
Michigan is squarely on the bubble, and Juwan owes it to his players to do everything in his power to set them up for success. Now you’re looking at likely multiple-game suspensions for the head coach and maybe a few of the players. You’re heading into a crucial home game stretch, and now the team is significantly compromised and facing enormous distractions. 
You are potentially taking away a postseason from Hunter Dickinson, who has been carrying the team on his back all season. Taking it away from captain and super senior Eli Brooks. Taking it away from senior up-transfer Devante Jones, who’s trying to make his first NCAAT. Taking it away from the fans who’ve endured and supported the team through what has been a disappointing season. 
Very ashamed of what Juwan did yesterday. 

AC1997

February 21st, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^

This is the most rational take I've read and I agree with most of it.  Davison is a bush league player who loves to do crap like the Jones or Dickinson play....but that's irrelevant.  It is also irrelevant to start talking about Mark Few's 3-game suspension for DUI.  No need to bring up either.  

The one point that needs to be made is on the stupid annoyance associated with the Timeout.  WE WERE FULL COURT PRESSING despite being down 15+ points in the final seconds with bench warmers on the court.  If you are going to full court press, who cares if Gard calls a timeout?  This is like the stupid unwritten rules of baseball that never end because each side keeps getting annoyed about the previous side doing something.  LET IT GO.  

Now....it does appear that Juwan was at least going to sort of let it go until Gard grabbed him, which is unacceptable.  I too would like to know what Krabby said to continue to escalate, but in the end it really doesn't matter.  Juwan absolutely cannot be the first person to throw down....he needs to be the last person and never actually do it!  Not only did he hurt his own reputation forever but he hurt that of the school and his team.  Specifically he made it even more difficult for us to finish this season successfully because he started a fight that will result in suspensions to key players for their part in it.  There were many adults who failed in this situation - but Juwan was the worst offender and didn't seem to understand after the game what he did wrong.  That makes me sad and concerned.  

Suspend him the rest of the year, make sure he does whatever it takes to understand why he was wrong and help him handle that situation better in the future.  There are always going to be Gards and Davisons he will face as a coach.

MGoBlue96

February 21st, 2022 at 4:54 PM ^

Why does Gard need the handshake? He couldn't be the bigger man and laugh off Howard's comment and just let a clearly annoyed individual go past. Gard took an action instead that even if didn't lead all the way to a punch was at minimum going to result in a argument. Maliciously we can debate, but definitely wasn't the prudent thing to do.

SFBayAreaBlue

February 21st, 2022 at 3:32 PM ^

Fuck it, let him fight people.  We've gotten too far away as a society from our roots.  People walking around acting like jackasses because they have no fear of repercussions. Punch a bitch, make society better.

JBLPSYCHED

February 21st, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^

Excellent write-up and analysis Seth, very clear headed and rational. Like many other Michigan fans I love Coach Howard's passion. But hitting another coach--or anyone for that matter is inexcusable. Yes, context matters, and helps to explain his behavior, but it doesn't excuse it. Just as concerning as striking someone is the fact that he stubbornly refused to back off during the post-game press conference. I will be watching closely for his sincere apology but I'm not holding my breath; I expect more of a rote apology that will be required by Warde for Howard to keep his job. I hope that I'm wrong about this.

I also believe that striking another coach is a fire-able offense and that Coach Howard should probably be fired for this. If Izzo did it to one of our coaches, or a coach from any other team, many of us would expect him to be fired and if/when he wasn't fired we would howl at MSU's lack of integrity.

That having been said, I don't think that Howard will be fired, I think he'll be given one more chance and then fired if anything close to this ever happens again. Personally I don't want him to be fired because I actually believe he's an excellent coach and leader of young men, but unlike Seth I cannot fully set aside my maize and blue bias as I write this.

In my opinion Howard needs to take full responsibility and express sincere regret as well as state that he will be taking steps to never have anything like this happen again. I would expect this from one of my kid's coaches, or an opposing coach who acted this way, or from a co-worker or anyone else who physically assaulted someone and had to answer for it afterwards. It seems reasonable to expect it from the head coach of my alma mater.

eltoroazul

February 21st, 2022 at 3:42 PM ^

It's time to move on.  You can break this down as much as you want.  Coach Howard threw the punch that started a serious scrum.  It wouldn't fly in any other workplace other than the MMA.  

dragonchild

February 21st, 2022 at 3:44 PM ^

I can’t understand where Howard’s been but he’s got to realize that if there’s no immediate danger, his position as HC at Michigan is a far bigger weapon than his fist. He’s also got tens of millions of American bigots watching him and aching to prove their preconceptions about black people.

Team 101

February 21st, 2022 at 3:46 PM ^

Seth, I thought this was a great write up for what seems to be on the verge of dead story except to Michigan supporters who either want to support Juwan Howard or sacrifice him for the better of their dignity and Michigan haters who want to relish in our misfortune.

In Madison they have already cleared the debris and washed up the blood and are acting like this never happened.

I don't think anyone is getting punished here but Juwan Howard.  The Badgers don't think they did anything wrong and the league isn't going want to do a real investigation.  I think if Michigan were smart Juwan and Warde should self-impose a two week suspension from games to get this out of the news cycle and to protect the players who could be at risk for suspensions and damage to their reputations.

I also think the Athletic Department needs to think about protecting Juwan Howard from having this happening again even if some would say he should be able to take care of himself.  Someone is going to try to bait him and we need to be prepared.

In 1903 Fielding Yost brought his own water to Minneapolis to protect his team from being poisoned by Gophers.  The security provided by the University of Wisconsin was a joke.  Perhaps if we had brought a security team to diffuse this situation we wouldn't have had to rely on Faulds and TWill.

I see you are taking shit on Twitter for mentioning Izzo.  I tend to agree.  Izzo has his own problems but this story isn't about Izzo or State or the RCMB.

SDCran

February 21st, 2022 at 3:48 PM ^

2 staffers made contact with student athletes: Krabbenhoft and Chambliss.  They remain at the top of my list.  
 

the incident was fully over before Krabbenhoft brought the gasoline.   I will wait to hear more about what he said, in addition to grabbing and putting his hands on Williams before I am completely on board with Howard getting more than Gard.   I have seen people lose their jobs for the same as the arm grab and stepping in front of someone the way Gard did.   Let’s be clear that this was escalation point number 1.  
 

I am also still irate at the Wisconsin press conference.  Their AD saying people are injured (right before saying that he won’t comment on that) and acting like UW had no part in this.   And Gard acting like he was barely there.  I am hoping that the instigators get the book thrown at them, as well 

Team 101

February 21st, 2022 at 4:47 PM ^

I don't think we will ever know what he said and I don't think they are going to be punished.  Whether it is fair or unfair this is a story about Juwan Howard and Juwan Howard alone.  Wisconsin is acting like nothing happened.  They'll announce a suspension for Howard probably sometime this evening and then Michigan will also hope that everyone forgets about it.

Earlier I wanted the story to come out but the truth isn't going to change anything.

EZMIKEP

February 21st, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^

Stopped reading when you made it about race.

Disgusting and the lowest this blog has ever went. Racist actually. Unbelievably short sighted and offensive. 

MGlobules

February 21st, 2022 at 4:09 PM ^

Use your words. Seth explained his thinking--you're not explaining yours. Why doesn't Juwan's upbringing and what prompted his response enter in? Pretend it's not about race (I don't think Seth even used the word), but about culture or neighborhood. It's never occurred to you that something you did was shaped by your upbringing, what you'd been through in life? Again, explain your thinking--just saying you're wrong probably isn't going to convince too many people.

 

Team 101

February 21st, 2022 at 4:42 PM ^

I am OK with Seth did.  It is OK to acknowledge ignorance of how something may be perceived by a member of different race and to acknowledge that race may have played a factor in what transpired without excusing it.  To ignore it only makes these outbursts more likely to occur.

EZMIKEP

February 21st, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^

“You’re not explaining yours..”

It is absolutely mind blowing that I’d even have to.
For whatever reason so many on this blog can’t seem to come to terms with their obsession of race.
Especially that of black and white cultural dynamics. 
 

It’s to such a point of normalcy that most don’t even blink when it’s brought out. 
The way that many describe black people on here it’s as if they have their own special category of human being and we aren’t brothers and sisters sharing the same planet. Because of mental framework black Americans are simultaneously given a caveat to any situation based off the color of melanin in their skin. Well before anything can be fully discussed or logic and reason are brought into the dialogue.   Never ever taking into account that we all have different experiences, backgrounds and cultural perspectives/upbringing that shape us.

According to this blog we always have to think about black folks and their stereotyped         “lived experience” first before passing any general judgement on right and wrong. It’s degrading to black folks and sad that many don’t see this because of today’s overly inflated identity politics culture. It is also degrading to anyone else and their own upbringing and cultural perspectives. But again according to this blog and so much of our modern media that pushes this pathetic sentiment the white existence is that of privilege and a lack of empathy and understanding for the trials and tribulations of “people of color”.

Juwan Howard is barely older than I am. He has had years and years living inside a millionaire privileged lifestyle within multiple ranks of professional/corporate institutions and he has also raised multiple children over the last two  decades to learn the basics concepts of what is right and wrong on a basic level. He is not stupid or suffering from PTSD. Yet again according to this blog we should point out that because he’s a black man who grew up in the tough parts of Chicago our judgements of the situation should also first relate to this mistake on a different level because of that fact. We should simultaneously judge his lack of self control for hitting grown men differently because these men who touched him were white which somehow changes the dynamics.

Got it…

This poison is slowly creating a class of whites who not only act racist when making these claims in the disguise of empathy/teaching but also promote an unhealthy precedent for young black folks because they brought up believing that they are victims and that their actions are all a part of a much wider problem caused by the white boogeyman. 
 

As someone who grew up in primarily poor black neighborhoods it is astounding how condescending that sounds to many of my closest friends who are black. They hate this bullshit and they speak of it often behind closed doors. Furious that they also have so many amongst their community who are either brainwashed by all of the white/left leaning academia or radicalized by the politics that result from it. 
My own family are from West Virginia- deep coal mining small town decedents - and they see the complete decay and destruction of the state and the people/communities within it and yet they are mocked, stereotyped and grouped as worthless stains of the American landscape. 
Never are they given the same type of commitment or attempts at understanding for their life experience. Instead it’s just hate and mockery while terms like white privilege and white supremacy get thrown around carelessly. This happens to disadvantaged white people all over America.
 

That’s just a small sample of why this article is racist and offensive. 

MGlobules

February 21st, 2022 at 9:06 PM ^

Okay, that's a meandering description of your problems with the way some people--strawman you assemble for your discursus--think about race. But how about speaking to Seth's point? Which was that while he hadn't walked a mile in Juwan's shoes he could see that having Gard patronize and grab him might be triggering. Speak to that now, if you would and save us the boilerplate stump speech. Since I fucking hate it when people grab me when I'm upset, I could relate! 

 

EZMIKEP

February 21st, 2022 at 10:31 PM ^

Oh you hate when someone grabs you? Maybe you should just start slapping them and see how that works out for you. 
 

apparently I was just going on about nothing and my response was nothing and everything is nothing… jeeezuz what a self righteous bunch of bullshit. Seth didn’t need to bring up race in any way shape or form. It isn’t necessary. It usually isn’t necessary. It’s making a leap that is assumption and dismissive. Just like you are now. 


Seth’s point is he didn’t have one that wasn’t completely reaching into the racial abyss.

Hail2thavictors

February 22nd, 2022 at 12:57 AM ^

Here is an e-beverage of your choice! Thank you for your logic. I generally avoid these debates for precisely what you so deftly pointed out: EZ has not articulated his specific position as it relates to the facts of this specific scenario (and opinions derived therefrom). 
I’d bet those Black friends he grew up with don’t quite feel how he thinks they feel lol. Certainly not for the reasons he suggests. I’d imagine Gard thinks similarly to him which makes sense. Also might result in a collar grab, slap, or something else.
 

I mean really, where does one derive the notion that they have the authority, right, place to school, direct, lecture, or otherwise interfere with a whole grown ass man? Let alone one who is not subordinate in some way? Or…to tell other people what they should and should not discuss and/or how they should experience something—especially something they have not experienced?
 

 

g_dubya

February 21st, 2022 at 4:42 PM ^

I thought you stopped commenting back in February.

"I don’t comment on this blog anymore and this is why.

too many of you on here and you’re  taking over the world one cult member at a time."

You should really stick to your guns here.  We all suck and you should save your opinions for people not in the cult.

4th phase

February 21st, 2022 at 5:22 PM ^

Here it is folks. The guy who wants to immediately fire Juwan but has been defending the Bo statue. Not surprising, you continue to come with the worst possible takes.

 

Everyone should know you support covering up sexual assault, but have a zero tolerance policy for Juwan. Then you can’t stand race gets brought up? Gee I wonder why. You’ve outed yourself as a bigot before, and here you go again. 

MGlobules

February 21st, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^

I appreciate your analysis. And agree that Juwan's physical response is unacceptable, whatever the circumstances. But there are two pieces of this that demand more attention. 

The first is that we don't--as far as I know--have film yet from Juwan's side of the altercation, or know what Krabbenhoft said. It's not acceptable but plenty germane if Juwan's perception was either a) that two Wisconsin assistants were advancing on him with ugly intent or b) attacking his players. Until the view from Juwan's vantage is fully established, I don't think we can talk about what discipline should be meted out to whom. 

Second, you carefully parse the fact that Gard grabbed Juwan in your opening stanzas, but then fail to list it among the events that escalated the event. It should be number one on your list. Juwan--it's worth reiterating--doesn't have to be correct in his anger about what took place on the floor--HE WANTS TO GET AWAY, and says so. Gard tries to detain him, physically. It's bullshit, and I would be furious, too. Juwan knows himself here, and just wants to keep moving; he's not allowed to do that. 

And yet--here is the other crucial point, so far (I think) overlooked, Juwan doesn't hit Gard. He safely maneuvers this dangerous incident; he gets clear. What he responds to is something else. And that something else has not yet been fully anatomized. 

Yeah, you can't hit people--this has now been repeated ad nauseum. But the degree to which Juwan was provoked is important, not just to the league and admin, implementing their rules (perhaps creating new ones). But also to those of us who love Juwan and want to understand what took place. 

SDCran

February 21st, 2022 at 4:04 PM ^

Also I think you are letting Chambliss off easy.   After he gets pulled away from attacking Howard, you say he calmed down.   I believe he is the one that got Houstan fired up.  When Houstan yells ‘bitch’ I think that is at Chambliss and then again when we come back, you say Houstan is reacting to Gard.   I think again/still that is Chambliss going at it with athletes.