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Seth February 21st, 2022 at 2:06 PM

Early in Michigan’s loss yesterday to Wisconsin, Devante’ Jones leapt for an offensive rebound and caught it. On his way down, Badgers guard Brad Davison, the most notoriously dirty player in college basketball, kicked Jones’s feet out from under him. The Michigan point guard toppled to the ground. The perpetrator grabbed at the ball. The officials awarded Wisconsin possession on the arrow. Jones walked away.

The man Jones plays for had an opportunity to disengage from this:

What he did was hit—or to be more precise, down-slappily head-wuggled Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft. Another view, where you can hear some of the exchange:

Howard’s slap precipitated a mini-brawl, with several Wisconsin assistants and players getting into it with a couple of Michigan players, and various others hanging around on the periphery or trying to break it up. He was quite clearly the most at fault of anybody for what transpired. It was a massive embarrassment for the university. It quite clearly can't happen again. Let's try to discuss it.

[After THE JUMP: Zaprudering the film, reaction, what’s next?]
 
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What happened?

Here's what I think I saw, to the best of my abilities, from a couple of videos, and trying as best I can to set aside my obvious Michigan biases.

So with a few seconds and a safe lead late in the game, Wisconsin head coach Greg Gard called a timeout on an inbound, ostensibly to extend his team’s clock from 4 to 10 seconds. Howard evidently took that as a cheap shot, a way to make his players wallow in their loss. As the coaches crossed in the handshake line, Howard told Gard “I’ll remember that shit.”

At this point Gard stepped in front with a “Woah, hey” and grabbed Howard’s arm to stop him from going by. It’s plausible Gard meant to explain his timeout, but the physicality clearly angered Howard, who grabbed Gard’s sweater, then let it go and put his finger in Gard’s face, repeating “Don’t touch me, don’t fucking touch me.”

Gard began yelling back, and his recruiting director, Kyle Blackbourn, arrived, then also put his hands on Howard. Jaron Faulds arrived and began pulling Howard away while a university police officer was pulling Gard back. Faulds put himself between the coaches, who were still going at it—what I can hear is Howard repeating “Don’t fucking touch me” and Gard replying “Oh you big. You’re a big man?” Howard was showing his fist.

Into this entered three people. Wisconsin assistant Sharif Chambliss inserted himself between the coaches and Faulds, yelling at Howard. Chambliss attracted the attention of the police officer, who switched from Gard to Chambliss, who in turn slipped behind Faulds and continued yelling at Howard.

At the same time Terrence Williams II appeared at Howard’s shoulder. Trying to lip-read I’m pretty sure he started by telling Blackbourn “c’mon man,” then twice told him “Stop!” For a moment it seemed things were going to break up, as a Big Ten official had arrived as well.

At this point Krabbenhoft inserted himself and started yelling at Howard and pushing at Terrence Williams II. Whatever Krabbenhoft said, it attracted everyone’s attention. Faulds looked right at him. The Big Ten official turned his attention to preventing Krabbenhoft from getting to Howard. Williams and Faulds joined the official in holding Krabbenhoft back and Blackbourn continued yelling and pushing into Williams. The group shifted back into the collection of Michigan players as Hunter Dickinson and Frankie Collins were pulling him away. Moussa Diabate stepped in next to Faulds.

Kraggenhoft caught the attention too of Howard, who now returned to the heart of the scrum by hopping behind the Big Ten official. Howard then used his open hand to reach over Faulds and half-slap/half-face mush Krabbenhoft across the left side of his head with some force.

The slappyfwish (technical term) wasn’t injurious, but it wasn’t soft either, and looked worse on camera because Howard balled his fist afterwards. That action, more than any other, precipitated the violence that followed. That it was committed by Michigan’s head coach is the reason it’s the story of the night.

After the slap, Krabbenhoft was pulled away by a couple of Wisconsin players. Blackbourn began grappling Williams’s wrists while Williams was seemingly trying to pull away. Michigan assistants Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter jumped in to break things up, with Hunter yelling at Michigan’s players to back away and Washington arming apart the center of the melee. Blackbourn gave Washington a shove with his fists (I wouldn’t interpret it as a punch), then too got pulled to the rear.

As Blackbourn was pulled away, UW assistant Sharif Chambliss, who had surged towards Howard at the slap, apparently leapt on Williams, taking him to the ground near the stands. I saw some Wisconsin fans online arguing that Williams pulled Chambliss down, but Williams’s hands were both clearly caught by Blackbourn when Chambliss came through.

The two of them disappear then you see Williams is up and Chambliss is past him (to the left of the yellow sweatshirt fan) and the two are grappling as Chambliss is trying to attack Howard, with the officer between them. The officer manages to get Howard away with the help of some Michigan players, and Chambliss goes down. A Michigan staffer I couldn’t identify (I think it’s Jon Sanderson) saw this and curled his body over Chambliss, shielding him, while Saddi Washington stepped in to clear people away from the fallen coach. The staffer (Sanderson?) apparently said something that got Chambliss to calm down, then let him up.

Chambliss got up near Adrian Nunez, who backed off. At this point Wisconsin’s Johnny Davis, who’d been helping to hold back Krabbenhoft, ran in to retrieve Chambliss.

When Chambliss went down, Williams turned around to find a Wisconsin player, Jahcobi Neath, who had entered the fray and started throwing punches at him. Williams punched back, then Diabate too took swings at Neath before they were pulled apart by Hunter. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl found Williams and calmed him down.

By this point things were deescalating. Gard walked back towards the Michigan players and yelled “Get off the court” then something inaudible. Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate. The final act, once the teams were separated, was from Brad Davison, who was trying to lead his teammates back over towards where Michigan was exiting the court under the guise of going to sing “Varsity,” which I presume is a postgame tradition. Davison’s intention is not hard to read.

Finally a UW assistant dropped a late-90s reference you kids aren’t old enough to understand.

In a short postgame presser Howard explained “someone” touched him and he didn’t respond well to that:

This was not, as I understand it, an apology. Gard only explained the reasoning for his timeout.

Let’s talk about culture.

This is not the first time that Howard has been involved in an altercation with another Big Ten coach that threatened to turn violent. This was the incident last year with Maryland’s Mark Turgeon:

Howard, who received a double technical and was thrown out of the game, explained his actions thusly:

“He said to me ‘Juwan I’m not gonna let you talk to me, you don’t talk to me ever again’ and he charged at me,” Howard said. “...I was raised by my grandmother and also by Chicago. When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.”

Those words resonated with a lot of people, including myself, at the time. Not all childhoods had this lesson, but in mine I learned the only way to not be a target was, in my father’s words “to make sure they learn the first time that a second time will hurt too much to be worth it.” It wasn’t until well into adulthood, when I was explaining the origin of a permanently misshapen bump on the left side of my left forehead, that I even questioned if that was the right lesson.

To say that my experience as the rare Jew in suburbia is comparable to what was going on in Coach Howard’s head when he down-slapped the Badger assistant would be ridiculous. I do not know his lived experience. I do not know what the assistant said. I cannot know what it means to a person of color to be grabbed by a white man, except I know enough people who’ve told me that would produce a visceral reaction not to try it with anybody.

I understood through my lens what he meant by “When guys charge you, it’s time to defend yourself.” That is the culture that many of us grew up in. But—and we have to agree on this—it’s not the culture of the University of Michigan, and it should not be the culture passed on to those who root or play basketball for that institution.

“Provoked?”

This is my response to anyone still trying to argue this morning that Howard’s actions are justified by Gard’s. If Howard had grabbed the sweater, let go, wagged a finger, and that had been the end of it, we could talk about how Gard’s actions reasonably precipitated Howard’s response. Howard’s response, however, is so vastly beyond the aggressiveness of Gard’s, and the aggressiveness of his assistants, that the two are not comparable. Exchanges of words are not the same as exchanges of blows.

There are three crystal clear moments when the situation heightened:

  1. When Howard grabbed Gard’s sweater and yelled “Don’t touch me!” which brought the UW assistants and Williams over.
  2. When Krabbenhoft slid in and said whatever precipitated Howard’s hit, which besides Howard’s reaction, appeared to induce the policeman and the Big Ten official to stop pulling the coaches apart and refocus on Krabbenhoft.
  3. When Howard slapped Krabbenhoft.

Two of those three moments were Juwan’s alone. I am receptive to reasons Howard had those reactions, but short of Krabbenhoft slinging certain words I think we would have heard about by now, there’s no valid interpretation of #1 and #3 that I can think of which would absolve Howard of his responsibility to deescalate.

In other words, stop arguing that these were equal. The worst actor in this whole situation was clearly Michigan’s head coach Juwan Howard.

What happens next?

There will be consequences. Howard will no doubt be suspended and fined for at least the maximum two games that the league can enforce under its sportsmanship policy.

As Quinn says, no doubt the incident with Turgeon, for which Howard narrowly escaped suspension, will factor. Michigan can (and probably will) choose to join the league and add to the suspension. Manuel’s crafted release suggests Michigan expects disciplinary actions, and leaves open the door to add to it:

I expect the league will hand out the maximum two games to Howard, and Michigan will tack on one or two extra. I would not be surprised if it’s more—up to the end of the regular season—because they have five games left and the season ends in less than two weeks.

His comments after the Turgeon incident don’t help his cause. That too was an explanation, which is closer to a justification than an apology. It suggests Howard believes, as a lot of us who grew up in the United States in the 20th Century grew up believing, that using violence to protect yourself and your people is how an adult should act.

I also fully understand that Howard’s perspective can be informed by experiences and history that I cannot fathom. Most non-white people I know would experience a visceral reaction from being grabbed in an authoritive manner by a white man, to the point where that’s something I know not to do. That wasn’t Juwan’s explanation, and not an excuse, but certainly part of the context.

None of that context changes the simple truth: for the head coach of Michigan basketball, this was not acceptable. If Michigan uses this opportunity to impress anything upon its head coach, it’s “Walk away.” The next time Howard speaks publicly, I want to hear that’s the plan.

What should it be?

Three or four games would cover the severity, in my opinion. Firing him would seem drastic. His action sparked a melee that could have resulted in serious injuries. It was also a slap, an action which we’d call a 15-yard penalty in football, a 2-minute roughing minor in hockey, or a “routine basketball play” on the same court an hour earlier. The severity of the infraction is due to Howard’s position as head coach, and the context that led to further violence between the teams.

I would not expect any other team would fire their head coach for this unless, e.g. Georgia and Tom Crean, they were just looking for an excuse to fire the coach without paying his buyout. Therefore any argument, to my mind, that Michigan should fire Howard rests in a pretention that Michigan is a holier place. In case that's not clear: it is not.

I also think it would be a very bad look for Michigan to fire Howard over this. While culture does not excuse actions, it’s a framework for understanding them. That goes both ways: Howard has a responsibility to Michigan to uphold the institution’s values while representing them, but Michigan has a responsibility to Howard to understand it doesn’t mean the same thing to a Black man from a poor neighborhood in South Chicago to be grabbed by a white man as the reverse. Pretending there isn’t a difference contributes to a cycle that has kept excellent Black coaches underemployed of the coaching profession, redefining being affected by a systemic problem into a reason to perpetuate it.

That in no way lets Howard off the hook. The school has to be very clear that it’s Howard’s responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What about the Whatabouts?

  • Wisconsin recruiting director Kyle Blackbourn, the guy who deleted a tweet of himself with a bloody tooth, should probably get a suspension for escalating things, grabbing Williams, and shove-punching Saddi.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Sharif Chambliss was one of the instigators and apparently tackled Williams. The video isn’t enough but if he assaulted a player he could be in serious trouble, including the legal kind.
  • Wisconsin assistant coach Joe Krabbenhoft, the guy who got hit by Howard, added himself to the argument and seemed to be the prime instigator.
  • Michigan’s Terrence Williams II was in the middle of things, and put himself there. He also took several swings at Neath.
  • Wisconsin player Jahcobi Neath entered the fray, was removed, and reentered to throw punches at Williams and Diabate.
  • Michigan’s Moussa Diabate entered when Neath did, and punched at him twice before they were pulled apart.
  • Wisconsin’s Greg Gard returned after most of the scuffle had ended and yelled something at the Michigan players.
  • Michigan’s Caleb Houstan reacted to whatever was said and charged Gard but was held back by a teammate.
  • Wisconsin’s Chris Vogt was on the periphery, but kept trying to swim in and engage.
  • Wisconsin’s Brad Davison was also on the periphery, and afterwards was trying to reengage hostilities by leading the Badgers towards where Michigan was going to the locker room, under the guise of singing “Varsity” with the students.

Barring more damning video evidence or testimony regarding Chambliss’s actions I would expect Howard to get the biggest punishment, and 1- or 2-game suspensions for the above.

Besides the officials and officers, a number of players and coaches did more than stand around, actively diffusing the violence and herding players back to the locker rooms. For Michigan, Saddi Washington and Chris Hunter did the most of anybody to break up the fighting. S&C coach Jon Sanderson and Jaren Faulds were in there holding people at bay without escalating. Wisconsin’s Tyler Wahl pulled several of his teammates back, and also pulled Williams out of there and calmed him down. Johnny Davis held Gard back then removed Chambliss from the middle of Michigan’s group. Tyler Higginbottom removed teammates. Analyst Andrew Van Handel was ducking in and out break up the sides and diffuse tensions.

If you’re engaging today with Wisconsin fans, show them the videos if they think their side is completely blameless, but first acknowledge that the worst actor in all of this was Juwan Howard, and that you are appalled by it. Or—you know you can do this—don’t engage with them.

As for Sparties who hop in your mentions, you should know that long before this or the Maryland incident the RCMB has been a nest of perpetual, unchecked racist dog whistling about Howard. Check them out before replying, and if they seem to be looking for a fight, block and move on.

Again, if you are out there talking about this, please start with Howard was the most wrong.

Can a Class B technical be issued to an entire program? Asking for a friend.

lol.

Comments

Brian Griese

February 21st, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^

So if you don't think he would have necessarily acted any differently (I agree) with the two coaches I listed, what are we arguing about? Am I not allowed to have this opinion if I'm a pasty white guy?

I'm trying my best to have a good faith discussion on this topic.  No, I don't think Gard did what he did because Juwan is black and no I don't think Juwan would have done anything differently if it were Avery Johnson or Tubby Smith on the opposing end.  I don't understand what's "ridiculous" about that sentiment.  If you want to provide me evidence to the contrary or give me your opinion on how this would have went down with a role reversal, I'm all ears.  

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 5:28 PM ^

Huh?  Did I say I don't think he would have necessarily acted any differently?

I said I don't know.

I apologize, "ridiculous", is a strong word but it is...unfair? unaware? for you to be certain that he wouldn't have done anything differently.  I'm not Juwan and I'm not a black man in America so again, I don't know what it's like to be grabbed by a white man in opposition territory in that way.  It shows a lack of empathy and awareness to be certain that wouldn't bring up trauma for him is what I'm saying.

I appreciate you being willing to have a discussion.  I don't think Gard meant any ill will and I think he genuinely wanted to explain himself.  I give him that benefit of the doubt, but I don't know what him grabbing Juwan brought up for Juwan.  It's possible it brought things up that wouldn't have come up had he been grabbed by a black coach.

You asked why Gard's skin color is relevant, and I'm telling you that you can't dismiss the possibility of racial trauma being an issue here which is why Seth brings it up.

We white people have the privilege of pretending racial issues don't exist because we don't deal with and are usually not even aware of the BS that most black people endure throughout their lives.  BS that can have a lasting impact and can certainly bring things up in a situation like this.

Hail2thavictors

February 22nd, 2022 at 12:34 AM ^

I am a Black dude and your comments, while perhaps intended to be in “good faith” as you stated, miss the mark by a mile. You began with your mind made up and are looking to be proven otherwise—despite not only never being in the situation. But also dismissing—without exploring—how it could be different.

Hell yes it is different. First and foremost because another Black dude probably wouldn’t have done that shit in the first place. Take it how you will, but that is EXACTLY the kind of bs White dudes like him do—especially to people like Juwan. He should have been smart enough to not take the bait as far as he did. Because then here come tone deaf comments and op eds like this. The conversation is about Juwan’s clearly too far actions and nothing else. Especially when the White person goes from big bad ready to fight to calling the lawyers and police clutching pearls.
 

You can either let them get away with it. Or make that ass whooping one they’ll never forget. If it was unconscious or not intended like that then maybe they will think before the next time they do something similar. 
One of my law school professors wrote an interesting scholarly article regarding interactions with police by race and gender. Including a good deal of intersectional research with racial identity, male ego etc. I don’t intend to go back and forth with you lol. Have whatever opinion you want. But to act like you cannot conceptually imagine something that permeates all of society like your physical and racial identity—lol really? 
 

You don’t think that interaction is experienced and judged differently if one of the coaches was a woman? Height? Howard being the new coach on the block? Big man on campus? Pro player? Etc etc. I’d bet a lot of that factored into Gard’s reactions too. We’re just not talking about that. And since Juwan went too far we won’t get that opportunity. Par for the course in my eyes. History has shown me that Juwan would have had to been 100% above reproach and Gard absolutely ridiculous for the light to be on the White guy. I cannot recall a public event where it was any different. We know this. But not everyone decides that taking the aggressions/micro aggressions or whatever is worth not slapping the offender. 

UMinSF

February 21st, 2022 at 5:46 PM ^

4th phase, this is an interesting question, though perhaps a better comparison would be a younger, larger white coach (not really analogous to grab an old guy with heart issues like Coach Beilein) - how about:

"does Gard ever grab Matt Painter like that?"

If the answer isn't "yes", then perhaps there is something more at play. I honestly don't know.

 

4th phase

February 21st, 2022 at 10:20 PM ^

Yeah I know Beilein is way too reserved to have this happen. But Brian Griese seemed to just be throwing out the names of black coaches. So I just threw out Beilein. It doesn’t really matter what other white coach you wanna throw in there. It’s just the flip side of the question so people take a second and consider it. (And hopefully don’t just laugh it off like he said he did).
 

but yes, your example is probably better, same with Fran Mccaffrey below. And of course it’s impossible to answer, until we see video of Gard aggressively grabbing someone like that. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 21st, 2022 at 6:20 PM ^

Can't really picture Beilein telling another coach, "I'll remember that shit."  Definitely can't picture Beilein using his starters to full-court-press another coach's scrubs and then hypocritically getting mad about that coach calling time-out.

Fran McCaffrey, though?  Yeah, I could easily see Gard grabbing McCaffrey like that.  In other words, does the race of the hypocritically angry coach matter here?  I don't think it does.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 21st, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^

Michigan has a responsibility to Howard to understand it doesn’t mean the same thing to a Black man from a poor neighborhood in South Chicago to be grabbed by a white man as the reverse.

No, it doesn't.  Michigan has a responsibility to Howard to understand that Wisconsin coaches escalated the situation by being aggressive assholes, but it doesn't have a responsibility to introduce further double standards in an attempt to erase past ones.  You're suggesting that if a white coach did exactly what Howard did, he should be punished more harshly because it "means something different" to Howard.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 21st, 2022 at 6:13 PM ^

That seems fair.  The goal is to get Howard to change his behavior.  If Michigan were to try and do that by having some older aristocratic-ish white guy, a trustee or something, harrumph at Howard in his office for half an hour, that probably wouldn't work.  People will connect better with people from similar backgrounds and mindsets.

The impression I got was that Seth was trying to tie this into a larger picture of black coaching employment in general, i.e., if Howard is punished too harshly, it will set back the goal of having more black coaches employed.  I agree with the people above who said, wait a minute, if Gard grabs a white coach that way, it's not really any less likely to set that hypothetical guy off either.

Hotel Putingrad

February 21st, 2022 at 2:37 PM ^

Pretty fair and thorough wrap-up, Seth, and I largely agree.

Howard is most at fault here and deserves the longest suspension. This should also be considered his second strike as far as maintaining his employment as head coach of the Michigan men's basketball team.

However, suspensions are due Chambliss, Diabate, Williams, Neath, and Krabapple as well. Gard is going to skate on this one, even though he's no angel here.

There have been a lot of bad faith takes about yesterday's incident swirling around this blog and the wider internet. We can be disappointed in Howard, demand accountability, and still keep things in reasonable proportion. Learn from this, and move on.

Though I will say the formal handshake line is dumb and unnecessary.

Champeen

February 21st, 2022 at 2:37 PM ^

I posted in a previous thread but it got nuked before anyone saw it.  In a nutshell, in the Maryland game this year on a TV timeout (no one but fans there could see it, but i was in one of the 16 seats on the floor between the coaches/players and the middle crew) and near the end of the game when Diabate got called for a foul on defense under the basket (Michigan was blowing them out at this point and the game was basically over) Howard was debating the foul with a referee.  Well, at the end the referee started walking away and Howard shouted (spit came out!) and went for a headbutt and missed the referee by like a fricken centimeter.  The ref heard it and caught it out of perepheral vision and was equally shocked, like did i just see that!  Was it real?  What just happened type of look.  I was equally shocked my jaw dropped to the ground.  I was embarrassed!  If he would have landed that head butt he was gone!  

This is the third incident, not second.  Its just no one saw the 'missed headbutt' altercation.

Champeen

February 21st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^

Agree with you.  And it is nothing i wanted to see, but i saw it.  I did not even post it because i was hoping it and the Maryland games were one-offs because i really like Howard and want him to succeed.  But after this latest incident (now 3 that i know of, could be more) i felt compelled to post it.

Champeen

February 21st, 2022 at 4:00 PM ^

I did not know the refs name, i just did a google search on refs and that looks exactly like him.  Let me dig deeper .....

 

EDIT - my apology above got my games messed up!!!  It was Maryland - i should have known because before the game im stting there looking at Juwan Howard and Danny Manning together and stated to my friend, they should not even throw the players out here, they should have these 2 go 1 on 1 to decide who wins!  They both looked in damn good shape still.

MGoLow

February 21st, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^

Thanks, Seth. I mostly agree with your analysis. One quibble - as much as I can't stand Brad Davison, I don't think his actions merit mention with the others in this case. 

Yinka Double Dare

February 21st, 2022 at 2:50 PM ^

Yeah, the injured staff is the guy who posted the bloody lip who was one of the worst offenders on their team and staff. Poor guy.

I think until the end of the regular season is probably sufficient for Juwan Howard. I do want to know what the hell Krabbenhoft said that blew everything up the way it did, seeing as it was enough to basically get everyone's attention/reaction!

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 21st, 2022 at 2:50 PM ^

Great peace (non-pun, intended), Seth.  Expected nothing less. I really want to see our guys in March.  It's my favorite sports time of the year.  And this shit really hampers that possibility.  That's what hurts the most for me. /selfish

Reader71

February 21st, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^

I think he should be fired, and I don't think it's because Michigan is holier than thou. I don't think "no hitting colleagues" is a particularly holy proscription.

Nor do I think that standard should be lowered based on the race or upbringing of the coach. As a psychological explanation, I buy it 100%. A black guy from Chicago is going to see a fat white idiot that feels entitled to touch him after calling a bush league timeout differently than a white guy from the suburbs. I get why Howard might feel the way he did in that moment. That doesn't change the pretty low bar rule we are working with, though: no hitting colleagues.

I also find it weak that the argument goes immediately from "people who think Howard should be fired are unreasonable about what they expect from Michigan" to "MSU coaches hit people all the time and don't fire anyone." The implication seems to be that the MSU standard is right. What about someone like me? What if I hold Michigan to a standard that MSU doesn't quite reach but doesn't seem particularly stringent: no hitting colleagues.

All that disagreement aside, this was the sanest reading of the situation that I've read anywhere.

Booted Blue in PA

February 21st, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^

Coach failed his team, and I hope that is his message to them in the locker room.   He needs to come out and take 100% ownership of what happened and not use language that attempts to explain the "why".

Gard proved himself a douche in the waning seconds of the game.  JH should have called that out in the presser, not on the court.

Gard doubled down on being a douche when he used the presser to imply Juwan doesn't understand the rules of basketball.... the only thing he could have said douchier would have been to make a fab 5 timeout reference. 

Unfortunately Juwan took the bait and since it isn't his first altercation, he's not getting the benefit of the doubt from anyone.   Further, if something like this happens again, he will most likely be fired.  Like having your All American center on the court with 4 fouls, he's gotta be on guard (no pun intended) for some prick instigating a reaction which will likely cost him his job. 

slblue

February 21st, 2022 at 2:52 PM ^

This is really well done - and thanks for the hard work.

The bottom line is the bottom line - and you are correct in my view.  Coach Howard is culpable and we start there.  But your thorough piece makes me think there is actually still much to learn - what was said by whom and when.  Interviewing players and coaches is important.  Carefully creating a complete timeline would be very helpful.

I know this may never happen, but it does seem to me that Howard and Gard should meet and discuss the situation like adults and completely bury the hatchet.  You resolve problems through adult communication, not by violence.

MJG

February 21st, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

The moment I saw Gard put his hands on Juwan in the line, I knew it wouldn’t end well. Hope the university has Juwan’s back and fuck Wisconsin. 

4th phase

February 21st, 2022 at 2:55 PM ^

People are talking about the timeout, which was a result of the press. But what was the press a result of? I would submit Juwan was pressing at the end cause he felt Wisconsin was being unsportsmanlike prior to that. The timeout in question was at 15 seconds. Let’s go back to 1:30 left. Wisconsin is up 16. Juwan puts in Faulds and Jace (pretty much giving up). 50 seconds left, wisonsins starting pg makes a 3 and then Gard calls timeout. So after that Howard presses the backups. I think it was the 2 timeouts in the last 1:30. And the general Davison cheap shots that started it all. Not just the 1 timeout from the press.

 

Now, after the timeout, it’s Jace that commits the intentional foul with 15 seconds left. Is that what Krabbenhoft said that got Juwan going? Something about his son? 
 

I wouldn’t punish Juwan at all until Chambliss and Krabbenhoff are fired for attacking opposing players. That’s a whole nother level compared to 2 coaches getting into it. 
 

Furthermore, sparties can go fuck themselves until Izzo takes off the teal ribbon and addresses the fact he’s covered up multiple sexual assaults in his career. 

 

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^

Yes, I said it when Hepburn hit that three.  I was like why are Wisconsin starters (at least Hepburn and Davis) in the game shooting threes when they're up 16 with under a minute to play?  So yeah, I totally understand at that point Michigan pressing and trying to get the score back down.  Wisconsin shouldn't be complaining about Michigan pressing.

BUT, when Michigan kept playing, then it was totally fair for Gard to also call a timeout.  If you're playing to the buzzer, the other team is entitled to as well. 

I thought Juwan might mention that three as the initial thing that made him angry because that would have made sense.

Everything up until Krabbenhoft busting through and barking at the Michigan guys seemed relatively reasonable even if a bit petty on Juwans part.

But Krabbenhoft escalated a de-escalating situation completely unnecessarily and then Juwan obviously reacted to that in a way that was totally unacceptable.

mgobaran

February 21st, 2022 at 3:00 PM ^

I'm stuck between two thoughts. I don't think it is that big of a deal, but it's surely enough cause to be fired. There isn't a world in which Juwan's actions are justified - regardless of how much fault you can shift towards Wisconsin. You see what happened in Maryland, what happened here, and his post-game press conference, it's hard to envision it not happening again - regardless of Seth's title. 

I was won over by Juwan's emotions during his introductory press conference and other interviews. He's open and honest about his emotions, not ashamed. I believe that is a very important thing to teach the young men who play for him, and the young men who watch him or his teams. Idk if there is a fine line between being emotional and losing control of your emotions - but the latter is what yesterday represents. And that is nothing to be proud of. 

TrueBlue2003

February 21st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^

One correction:  the guy that did the "suck it" gesture was not Blackbourn.  That guy had hair, but Blackbourn is completely bald.  But I appreciate that video making it in here because that was hilarious.

Eyzwidopn

February 21st, 2022 at 3:03 PM ^

Seth, your thoughtful perspective and reasoned breakdown of this "event" is greatly appreciated.  Oh, and now I know that "slappyfwish" is what my big brother used on me growing up.  Many thanks for the historical context.

Erik_in_Dayton

February 21st, 2022 at 3:03 PM ^

Well done, Seth.  FWIW, I've struggled to put into words how I feel about this.  Obviously, the head coach of Michigan can't slap someone.  But I also know from personal experience that it's hard to unlearn having your brain in emergency mode.  And I don't have a ton of sympathy for the Brad Davisons of the world, who walk right up to the brink of starting a fight and then cry foul when the person they're antagonizing crosses that line.  But then you don't want to be the person causing or escalating the very thing you were afraid of, i.e., violence.  Coach Howard undoubtedly felt like he was protecting his team, but as you say, Seth, he made things much worse.  And he just can't do that.

Anyway, I hate this situation and hate the Wisconsin basketball program with the fire of 1,000 suns.  And a five game suspension with the understanding this cannot ever happen again makes sense to me.

Flying Dutchman

February 21st, 2022 at 3:05 PM ^

Isn't it ironic that there are handshake lines while certain people are still required to wear masks? I'm more likely to "take my chances" moving around with bare faces than with hand to hand contact with literally every member of the other team, and in a year where a meaningful amount of play was lost to positive covid cases.