Ohio State does have a better 80 man roster than we do. Their starting team is better than ours too. Their starting QB's have been better than our starting QB's. All these facts are true but the biggest factor in our recent defeats is the fact that they have completely figured out our defense. Watching the game the last two years I see their receivers wide open. Later the running backs can't be stopped. This is not a talent issue! Even if we had All-Pros at every positions it wouldn't help overcome our bad scheme against them. All our coaching staff need to competed with Ohio State in this chess game that they're clearly beating us in. I'm no expert but even I see we can't defend the crossing pattern where they pick off our defender. Let's start with that. They also know our tendencies, we need to mix it up. What do you guys think?
Harbaugh has not developed a great QB. That was his claim to fame. Very disappointing that he has not picked a recruit and turned him into a multi-year starter. All the starters have been transfers. What's the problem? Can't pick them or can't develop them?
I feel that whoever can come back will. They did not perform like NFL types. They need to improve greatly in order to have a realist shot at a career at the next level. Even the receivers need to have better years.
The players on the team need to all come back. Not good enough to play in the NfL. They need to improve greatly. A team would have to be dumb to waste a draft pick on our 3d year players.
Shea is not a good Qb. Harbaugh's is to blame for sticking with him. Shea just doesn't have the toughness to get it done. I wish he stayed at Old Miss. Peter's looks like a better QB. Get a QB cough and keep Harbaugh away from him. Can't develop a QB. Very disappointed.
I feel our biggest problem during the Harbaugh years has been the QB play. If we had Tua instead of Shea or the other QB's we've had, we would have beaten Ohio State by now. Harbaugh is one of most timid play callers I've ever seen. On some of these fourth and one I'd love to see him fake the run and go long for once. We have to play Ohio State in a zone on passing plays and put our four fasted guys back there.
We've always had a QB disadvantage with Ohio state. We need Shea to outplay their QB. He needs to play with focus and courage. We also need our coachs to out scheme Ohio state and throw them for a loop. Against Penn State you saw that when they suddenly faced a running QB they were not ready for that and Penn State had them reeling for a while. If we play them straight up we will lose. We need to keep them off balance on both offence and defense.
Let's face it fellows, we were expecting a lot more this year than what we got. Penn State looked very beatable and I predict they will not give Ohio State a competitive game. The officials screwed us as usual but we still should have won the game.
What do we need to do to play BETTER?
1) Coaching needs to improve. Player development is important but so is game strategy. How many games have we seen where we've been outcoached- to many. We need to hire a special Teams expert like we did our first year. Our special teams are terrible. Some times we need to scheme to get our best receiver on their worst coverage guy like other teams do to us. We need to groom and play our most talented players(Example- Dixton Hill,Hinton, Mazi Smith and Milton). McCrone is only playing because Ross got injured. He should have been getting heavy minutes last year.
2) Honesty is very important! Harbaugh saying the offense looked great at the Wisconson game was laughable. If I couldn't believe it do you think the players did? Once you lose your credibility everything you say is suspect. Admit mistakes- Gattis is not ready to be an Offensive coordinator. Under his leadership we have seriously taken a step backward. We have wasted a very good Offensive line and great receivers. On defense we still have no answer for crossing patterns and isolating wideouts on safeties- get that worked out.
3) In order for us to beat Ohio State we need a QB to play at close to championship level. If your QB is not doing it after a few games go to a new quarterback. USC switched QBs a few years ago to Sam Darnold and their team looked completely different. Harbaugh show some balls and play another QB- Saban did it during a title game.
Those of us who think we did just fine against Penn State need to remember Franklin is famous for trying to play out the clock with a big lead. They outplayed us by a huge margin before that.
We've seen this movie before. Michigan is playing poorly. They are beating teams that are nowhere as talented as they are. Wisconson is a very good team this year. Ohio State is a very good team. These teams are the type of teams that can play and win the playoffs. We need to play as well to compete with them as they are good measure of where we need to be. We played Wisconson and they crushed us. Since then our defense got a little better but our offense still stinks. We can still turn this around but we have to be honest with ourselves about how much better we need to be playing. Yes we beat Illinois which is better than losing to them but we have to play Penn State, Nortre Dame, and Ohio State. From what we've seen so far it looks bad for us. Harbaugh is telling us that we're playing great and nothing to worry about. I used to think he was more upset with poor play than I was? Now he's like the feel good dad who tells you played your best and he's proud of you. As fans we want more out of the team. Get better or leave the program. It's not a right to play for Michigan.
We've seen this movie before. Michigan is playing poorly. They are beating teams that are nowhere as talented as they are. Wisconson is a very good team this year. Ohio State is a very good team. These teams are the type of teams that can play and win the playoffs. We need to play as well to compete with them as they are good measure of where we need to be. We played Wisconson and they crushed us. Since then our defense got a little better but our offense still stinks. We can still turn this around but we have to be honest with ourselves about how much better we need to be playing. Yes we beat Illinois which is better than losing to them but we have to play Penn State, Nortre Dame, and Ohio State. From what we've seen so far it looks bad for us. Harbaugh is telling us that we're playing great and nothing to worry about. I used to think he was more upset with poor play than I was? Now he's like the feel good dad who tells you played your best and he's proud of you. As fans we want more out of the team. Get better or leave the program. It's not a right to play for Michigan.
Very good observation about Shea. Keep it simple for him and he's a much better QB. Shea's abilities as a passer goes way down when he feels the pressure. Just tell him the play he has to call and if it's not there throw it away. Don't make him decide because he can't handle it.
In week 8 can we make an about face. It seems unlikely but hope springs eternal. I hope Harbaugh doesn't say that Shea looked great and the defense was lights out. Just tell us the truth! Work out the problems and we'll see ourselves if it worked.
I predict that Shea will be replaced after we lose our second game. Playoffs will be out of reach and Harbaugh will be willing to experiment with another QB.
Harbaugh didn't know that McGrone was as good as he's shown until he had to use him. Harbaugh has been very loyal to his starting QB even when they played like crap. It worked out with Randolph but not so good with Okorn. I'm afraid Shea will have to get hurt before he's replace him. I think Shea would benefit if he sat one week and watched as Milton QBed the game. Michigan is good enough to win even if Milton stinks.
While I'm not impressed with Gattis, Shea is stinken up the joint. We need to start a new QB against our next opponent to get them ready. Shea will not get drafted by the NFL. Next man up.
The only quality team we played we couldn't run against. The other teams if we really had a good running game we would have killed them. Let's not fool ourselves, if we don't pass well we will lose.
Patterson is banged up and will run the ball only on critical third downs. Our other running backs are nothing to write home about. Our strength are our wide-outs.
The key to winning will be the passing game. If they play zone you pick them apart. If they play man you go deep to our talented wide receivers and let them make plays. Trying to establish the run will be futile. If we get a big lead then we can try to run out the clock. Iowa will make it a priority to stop the run to open the game. What do you guys think?
Don Brown's defense only works with a great defensive line. We've been waiting for Jeter and Dwumfour long enough. Let's work Hinton and Smith now so that they'll be ready for Ohio State later. Game experience is worth way more than practice.
Our tackles are terrible. Kemp might be a nice guy but he's not a good tackle. We have to get Hinton and Mazi Smith in the lineup who at least look the part.
We've watched Shea Patterson for a year and a half and it's obvious he's a very average QB. Physically he's short with a below average arm and below average speed. He doesn't process the field well and doesn't move well in the pocket. In my opinion he's why the offense looks as bad as it does. If he's really out best QB than Michigan can't compete for the Big Ten title. I'd like to see if someone with a big arm(Milton) would make a difference .
Shea's stats looked alot better then what it looked like watching it on TV. I believe he's an average QB and I'd like to see the other QB's in a real spot already
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Ohio State does have a better 80 man roster than we do. Their starting team is better than ours too. Their starting QB's have been better than our starting QB's. All these facts are true but the biggest factor in our recent defeats is the fact that they have completely figured out our defense. Watching the game the last two years I see their receivers wide open. Later the running backs can't be stopped. This is not a talent issue! Even if we had All-Pros at every positions it wouldn't help overcome our bad scheme against them. All our coaching staff need to competed with Ohio State in this chess game that they're clearly beating us in. I'm no expert but even I see we can't defend the crossing pattern where they pick off our defender. Let's start with that. They also know our tendencies, we need to mix it up. What do you guys think?
Harbaugh has not developed a great QB. That was his claim to fame. Very disappointing that he has not picked a recruit and turned him into a multi-year starter. All the starters have been transfers. What's the problem? Can't pick them or can't develop them?
I feel that whoever can come back will. They did not perform like NFL types. They need to improve greatly in order to have a realist shot at a career at the next level. Even the receivers need to have better years.
The players on the team need to all come back. Not good enough to play in the NfL. They need to improve greatly. A team would have to be dumb to waste a draft pick on our 3d year players.
Shea is not a good Qb. Harbaugh's is to blame for sticking with him. Shea just doesn't have the toughness to get it done. I wish he stayed at Old Miss. Peter's looks like a better QB. Get a QB cough and keep Harbaugh away from him. Can't develop a QB. Very disappointed.
One of the best thought out opines I've read. I agree 100% with everything you wrote. Looking forward to future posts.
I feel our biggest problem during the Harbaugh years has been the QB play. If we had Tua instead of Shea or the other QB's we've had, we would have beaten Ohio State by now. Harbaugh is one of most timid play callers I've ever seen. On some of these fourth and one I'd love to see him fake the run and go long for once. We have to play Ohio State in a zone on passing plays and put our four fasted guys back there.
Michigan needs to gamble on defense.
We've always had a QB disadvantage with Ohio state. We need Shea to outplay their QB. He needs to play with focus and courage. We also need our coachs to out scheme Ohio state and throw them for a loop. Against Penn State you saw that when they suddenly faced a running QB they were not ready for that and Penn State had them reeling for a while. If we play them straight up we will lose. We need to keep them off balance on both offence and defense.
Correction-OSU not lsu
We have the blueprint from LSU last game. We need a running quarterback. They have the same defensive weakness that we have.
This rule helps the player to get his degree which will benefit him for life. It's not just to punish him.
Let's face it fellows, we were expecting a lot more this year than what we got. Penn State looked very beatable and I predict they will not give Ohio State a competitive game. The officials screwed us as usual but we still should have won the game.
What do we need to do to play BETTER?
1) Coaching needs to improve. Player development is important but so is game strategy. How many games have we seen where we've been outcoached- to many. We need to hire a special Teams expert like we did our first year. Our special teams are terrible. Some times we need to scheme to get our best receiver on their worst coverage guy like other teams do to us. We need to groom and play our most talented players(Example- Dixton Hill,Hinton, Mazi Smith and Milton). McCrone is only playing because Ross got injured. He should have been getting heavy minutes last year.
2) Honesty is very important! Harbaugh saying the offense looked great at the Wisconson game was laughable. If I couldn't believe it do you think the players did? Once you lose your credibility everything you say is suspect. Admit mistakes- Gattis is not ready to be an Offensive coordinator. Under his leadership we have seriously taken a step backward. We have wasted a very good Offensive line and great receivers. On defense we still have no answer for crossing patterns and isolating wideouts on safeties- get that worked out.
3) In order for us to beat Ohio State we need a QB to play at close to championship level. If your QB is not doing it after a few games go to a new quarterback. USC switched QBs a few years ago to Sam Darnold and their team looked completely different. Harbaugh show some balls and play another QB- Saban did it during a title game.
Those of us who think we did just fine against Penn State need to remember Franklin is famous for trying to play out the clock with a big lead. They outplayed us by a huge margin before that.
Confidence and grit make a huge difference. Look at what happened at Illinois. Just win baby.
We've seen this movie before. Michigan is playing poorly. They are beating teams that are nowhere as talented as they are. Wisconson is a very good team this year. Ohio State is a very good team. These teams are the type of teams that can play and win the playoffs. We need to play as well to compete with them as they are good measure of where we need to be. We played Wisconson and they crushed us. Since then our defense got a little better but our offense still stinks. We can still turn this around but we have to be honest with ourselves about how much better we need to be playing. Yes we beat Illinois which is better than losing to them but we have to play Penn State, Nortre Dame, and Ohio State. From what we've seen so far it looks bad for us. Harbaugh is telling us that we're playing great and nothing to worry about. I used to think he was more upset with poor play than I was? Now he's like the feel good dad who tells you played your best and he's proud of you. As fans we want more out of the team. Get better or leave the program. It's not a right to play for Michigan.
We've seen this movie before. Michigan is playing poorly. They are beating teams that are nowhere as talented as they are. Wisconson is a very good team this year. Ohio State is a very good team. These teams are the type of teams that can play and win the playoffs. We need to play as well to compete with them as they are good measure of where we need to be. We played Wisconson and they crushed us. Since then our defense got a little better but our offense still stinks. We can still turn this around but we have to be honest with ourselves about how much better we need to be playing. Yes we beat Illinois which is better than losing to them but we have to play Penn State, Nortre Dame, and Ohio State. From what we've seen so far it looks bad for us. Harbaugh is telling us that we're playing great and nothing to worry about. I used to think he was more upset with poor play than I was? Now he's like the feel good dad who tells you played your best and he's proud of you. As fans we want more out of the team. Get better or leave the program. It's not a right to play for Michigan.
Very good observation about Shea. Keep it simple for him and he's a much better QB. Shea's abilities as a passer goes way down when he feels the pressure. Just tell him the play he has to call and if it's not there throw it away. Don't make him decide because he can't handle it.
We need to see if McCaffrey is the answer at QB. If not let's not waste time next year on him.
In week 8 can we make an about face. It seems unlikely but hope springs eternal. I hope Harbaugh doesn't say that Shea looked great and the defense was lights out. Just tell us the truth! Work out the problems and we'll see ourselves if it worked.
I predict that Shea will be replaced after we lose our second game. Playoffs will be out of reach and Harbaugh will be willing to experiment with another QB.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
The announcers want Michigan to run out the clock with 8 minutes to go.
Clutch drive. Keep it up for the rest of the year.
Most important drive of the year coming up. How can Illinois do this to us?
This year we're not going to do it. Team leaks mental toughness.
Harbaugh and Shea can't panic. Just run on every play and don't fumble. Defense play to win.
Harbaugh didn't know that McGrone was as good as he's shown until he had to use him. Harbaugh has been very loyal to his starting QB even when they played like crap. It worked out with Randolph but not so good with Okorn. I'm afraid Shea will have to get hurt before he's replace him. I think Shea would benefit if he sat one week and watched as Milton QBed the game. Michigan is good enough to win even if Milton stinks.
Very clever. I hope it doesn't get stolen by a TV celeb.
While I'm not impressed with Gattis, Shea is stinken up the joint. We need to start a new QB against our next opponent to get them ready. Shea will not get drafted by the NFL. Next man up.
I hate to be a critic but on 4th down you just knock the ball down. That was pretty dumb play by amnry Thomas.
We really need him to good today as our running isn't going to do it.
The only quality team we played we couldn't run against. The other teams if we really had a good running game we would have killed them. Let's not fool ourselves, if we don't pass well we will lose.
Patterson is banged up and will run the ball only on critical third downs. Our other running backs are nothing to write home about. Our strength are our wide-outs.
The key to winning will be the passing game. If they play zone you pick them apart. If they play man you go deep to our talented wide receivers and let them make plays. Trying to establish the run will be futile. If we get a big lead then we can try to run out the clock. Iowa will make it a priority to stop the run to open the game. What do you guys think?
Please! Didn't we get pushed around enough against Wisconson. Villain is listed at 243 Lbs. We can't play him till he puts on some weight.
Don Brown's defense only works with a great defensive line. We've been waiting for Jeter and Dwumfour long enough. Let's work Hinton and Smith now so that they'll be ready for Ohio State later. Game experience is worth way more than practice.
Our tackles are terrible. Kemp might be a nice guy but he's not a good tackle. We have to get Hinton and Mazi Smith in the lineup who at least look the part.
We've watched Shea Patterson for a year and a half and it's obvious he's a very average QB. Physically he's short with a below average arm and below average speed. He doesn't process the field well and doesn't move well in the pocket. In my opinion he's why the offense looks as bad as it does. If he's really out best QB than Michigan can't compete for the Big Ten title. I'd like to see if someone with a big arm(Milton) would make a difference .
Shea's stats looked alot better then what it looked like watching it on TV. I believe he's an average QB and I'd like to see the other QB's in a real spot already