Would you rather have a good OC or DC?
January 19th, 2011 at 7:06 PM ^
The best offense is a good defense
January 19th, 2011 at 7:37 PM ^
You have to choose? Ok...now i understand the RR years.
Who knew?
January 19th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^
Talent can score on O but a good D can keep you in any game. We all saw what the #6 O and a bad D gets you....
January 19th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^
I would rather have skilled upper class men at all positions, about two deep.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
Who said Borges is mediocre? Let's give him a chance with the best offensive weapon in college football.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
I'd take whichever is the opposite side of the ball from the head coach's expertise.
If everything was equal, I'd probably say defense. That could be in large part due to the nightmares that remain from last year.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
as long as we have Denard Robinson, he's an offense just by himself!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 PM ^
Its like asking would you rather have this hot chick or this hot chick. You obviously want both.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:39 PM ^
so you have to choose between the chick in
GVBLUE_IS_STILL_BLUE
or Jrt5336
...?
January 19th, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^
See that is impossible. It's worse than chosing between Desmond or Woodson.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:10 PM ^
How sure are you that Magee was a great OC? Remember RR was the main driver of that offense.
I also would say that Borges is better than most OC's Michigan has ever had. He's at least much, much better than Greg Robinson was at DC
January 19th, 2011 at 7:12 PM ^
Technically, if you have the best D possible, you can win games w/o fielding an offense. Barring massive onside kick success, the same is not true the other way around.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:12 PM ^
Wins Championships. I'd rather have a good DC.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:16 PM ^
This is often said, but I believe it to be true. If the other team cannot score, and you're more likely than not going to find a way to score at some point (blind squirrel theory), then you win.
I hate "first to 56" football when it involves my team (I think JLS is quoted as having said it once [douchebag]). It's entertaining as hell when it's not my team, however.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
Since our defense was giving up so many points, our offense was more prone to failure despite their greatness, because they weren't getting the ball enough. If we could have forced a few three and outs and gotten some stops, we could have put up sinful amounts of points. With a rock solid defense and a mediocre offense, the offense will put up points once they're on the field long enough.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
A well-coached offense is sooooo much more gratifying to me as a fan. No matter how much fight is in a defense, they'll give up scores. And when they can't rely on scoring coming on offense, even the best units get deflated. Muschamp was a firey dude, and there was talent top to bottom on UT's D, but they just couldn't get it done with no help from the O.
It seemed different when the offense was the strongly coached unit, because they very much dictate the pace and tenor of the game. Defense gives up a long drive, no problem, lets go score. It just feels less Sisyphean when the O is the better unit.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:18 PM ^
They aren't mutually exclusive.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:24 PM ^
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January 19th, 2011 at 7:39 PM ^
Ginger may have been hotter but EVERYBODY knows that Mary Anne would've been an absolute tiger in bed. I'm guessing the only thing that chick wouldnt do hasnt been invented yet.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:22 PM ^
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
that's too easy...defense is gonna win us Big Ten Championships, which DB continually says is the #1 goal....DC all day
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
I would base it on what the head coach’s weakness is at. Good OC, if head coach is a defensive minded and vice versa, but it’s not a realistic scenario. You try to pick the best on both sides.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:28 PM ^
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. There's my stance.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:29 PM ^
DC inspires fear in our enemies and confidence in our players. Trust in the power of the DC.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:29 PM ^
Defense wins championships or at least big ten titles
January 19th, 2011 at 11:08 PM ^
If you have to pick between a good OC or a good DC you shouldn't be a head coach. I just want the O to bail out the D when they have a bad game and vice versa.
Another gratuitous Ginger
January 19th, 2011 at 7:32 PM ^
A Good DC. Defense wins championships but Offense get the girls.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:41 PM ^
are you saying we have to choose between championships and girls?
January 19th, 2011 at 10:11 PM ^
No I was a high school QB so I'm just bragging, Our Defense won us most of our games, but I was sleeping with the cheerleader.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:32 PM ^
Defense always gives you a chance to win.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:41 PM ^
OC.
A great OC can make ok players a great offense. Defense is about personal. peroid.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^
It does get pretty personal down there in the trenches.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:58 PM ^
A good defense will always keep you in the game.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:08 PM ^
DC by far. If you can stop other teams, you put them in poor field position and create turnovers. Therefore, even average OC's will put up points because the defense is so good.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:31 PM ^
You have just described the archetypal Big Ten Manball team to a T. Congratulations, you win the thread.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:19 PM ^
No reason you couldn't or shouldn't have both.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
the past few years we have had a great OC,
Disagree. I was very underwhelmed by Calvin Magee. I frankly expected a lot more offensive creativity from him. We were about as predictable in our playcalling as we were under DeBord. Only in one of his three years were we actually good on offense, and IMO that was far more due to Denard's individual brilliance than anything Magee did.
But anyway, I'd always take the great DC. I think it's more difficult to build a great defense than a great offense. On offense, one great player (especially at QB) can carry the show. Defense is much more of a team effort.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:30 PM ^
We deserve all the good things in life.
January 19th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^
it always has been and it always will be.
January 19th, 2011 at 9:04 PM ^
Have we all forgotten 1997?
Michigan's defense that year should quell any arguments about this subject. i know there was a massive amount of talent there, but it was well coached and motivated. I recall about two or three touchdown drives by the ooposition the entire season--I mean long, field covering TD drives.
Lloyd played into that--Michigan didn't score a whole lot against opponents that year and didn't need to.
Woodson took away half the field and anytime anyone dared challenge him--ZOINKS!
Defense, defense, DEFENSE!
As one guy who was ready for Rodriguez to be run out of town, I'm willing to admit if Michigan had even a top 50 defense this year--ZOINKS! Rodriguez would be shopping for an island in Lake Michigan on which to build a mansion. If he had been able to manufacture a top 20 defense--He'd have won the NC this year and the next three.
I'll take a defense that is NAILS because it sets the tone for the entire team and seems to always be something you can fall back on.
January 19th, 2011 at 9:11 PM ^
For entertainment = OC
Winning = DC
I actually really enjoyed our offense last year and it's entertainment value outweighed some of the crappy defense. I'd rather see a 65-63 overtime win than a 10-7 win and I've seen both. I'm not really looking forward to a more traditional offense but am looking forward to some semblance of a defense.
January 19th, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^
Man what a barn-burner that was
January 19th, 2011 at 9:25 PM ^
Neither. Special teams all the way!
January 19th, 2011 at 9:25 PM ^
This is the Big Ten. Defense wins championships.
January 19th, 2011 at 10:11 PM ^
I rather win. But like most people I rather have a better D than offense.