Wisconsin 2-0 (outscored both opponents 110-0) But??

Submitted by scfanblue on September 15th, 2019 at 10:26 PM

They beat South Florida and Central Michigan. Let's take a look at both teams. 

South Florida is 1-2 with a win over South Carolina State and they lost to Georgia Tech who was just beaten at home by the Citadel out of Charleston, SC. 

Central Michigan has beaten Albany and Akron (who is 0-3). 

Yes it will be tough for Michigan in Madison and everyone is really down after the Army game in which Michigan WON but I have a feeling that Michigan is going to step up to the plate this week after being ripped by fans, the local and national media. Gattis has much to prove going into this game and his ability as an OC has been questioned nationally for the past week. I feel he is going to unleash his offense this week. Defensively, Michigan will be better than you think against Wisconsin. Go Blue! 

 

ldevon1

September 16th, 2019 at 5:18 AM ^

He missed them since he's been here, but he has made enough plays that it didn't matter. Lately he's missed receivers, and put the ball on the ground, and he hasn't made enough plays to counter the bad. In mind my, I keep saying they are evil geniuses and playing possum. I know, I know, just leave me alone in my thoughts. 

ldevon1

September 16th, 2019 at 9:42 AM ^

He's been OK. Ranked 32 in completion % in NCAA last year and being on the low end of attempt's is nothing to be that excited about. He has had some bad misses his time here, but like I said, he's made enough plays it wasn't that big of a concern. I believe he will make more plays going forward, but let's be honest and say he hasn't played well, and has to play better. 

chunkums

September 16th, 2019 at 10:01 AM ^

Completion percentage doesn't really tell a very good story, since a lot of teams play dink and dunk offenses, throw a ton of bubble screens, etc. Patterson was #8 in ESPN's QBR metric and he was the top rated QB in the Big Ten on Pro Football Focus last year. He's been a very accurate passer for most of his career here. 

ldevon1

September 16th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^

Very accurate is anything over 70%. He has been a little bit better than average. Adrian Martinez, Sam Ehlinger, Jake Browning, K.J Costello, Peyton Ramsy, David Blough, Will Grier, Jake Fromm, and Ian Book all had higher completion percentages and all with the exception of Peyton Ramsey play in offenses that push the ball down the field. 

Dray_go_blue

September 16th, 2019 at 8:11 AM ^

Yes he is lol...

and just because you said “Qb play will Be better” means jack. I see no signs that it will get better, other than the fact that it’s been so bad that I guess ya, there’s no where to go but up?

teldar

September 16th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^

He's been pretty terrible. However, he can turn things around by just not fumbling to start with. Hopefully Runyan comes back and he's more comfortable with the pocket and doesn't leave too soon or miss open receivers as a result.

Durham Blue

September 16th, 2019 at 11:29 PM ^

Exiting the pocket too quickly has been Shea's M.O. since he's been here.  Not sure if that will ever change.  But he's a dangerous passer on the run so I don't have an issue with him escaping.  More important are taking care of the ball, making the proper reads and throwing the ball away if nobody is open.  If he does those three things consistently well then Michigan is going to have a really good season.

Drew Henson's Backup

September 16th, 2019 at 10:04 AM ^

Yeah Dray, that's kind of it. He looked good in the first half vs MTSU and he looked pretty good last year. Certainly better than the Army game (which is overstated how bad he was). So yes, I am expecting that after the bye week, we will see an upward trajectory.

It's true, however, that I am not The Knowledge, so my assertion is fairly meaningless. It's just my expectation.

JoeDGoBlue

September 16th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^

In his 23 previous college games for Ole Miss and Michigan he had 3 lost fumbles in 23 games (0.13 per game).

Shea has 3 lost fumbles in 2 games this year (1.5 per game).

So this year he's losing fumbles at a rate that's more than 11.5 times higher than previously.  I'm no statistician, but it seems like these 2 games of small sample size are an anomaly.   He's not going to keep losing the ball at that rate.

 

 

Baldbill

September 16th, 2019 at 9:48 AM ^

yes, and currently they have only played CMU which is S&P+ ranked 111th and USF which is 109th.

Michigan has played Army at 90th (but S&P+ has an acknowledged weakness in ranking them due to the manner in which they play) and MTSU which is 69th.

If we can not turn the ball over 3 times a game we can win.

bronxblue

September 15th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^

Wisconsin probably isn't as dominant as they've looked; as we saw this weekend with Maryland, PSU, and to a lesser extent MSU (who always had a mediocre offense), teams can look a ton different when the other side puts up some resistance.

They are still really good.  Like, 10+ win good.  And it's a road game.  Michigan should be the underdog, and honestly I am sorta expecting UM to lose or, at best, win by a narrow margin.  

Mgoczar

September 15th, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^

Don't think thats true. What has been disappointing is how is this offense any different than before? We fumble etc fine, but when it comes time to come from behind and throw the gd ball, we still suck. There may be games where offense has to carry the team...I just dont see it (yet). 

It'd be nice if - like OSU teams of past - we keep getting better and turn into a juggernaut in November for once. 

bronxblue

September 15th, 2019 at 11:11 PM ^

I mean, look at this schedule.  There's a lot of games where I'd have a hard time seeing them stumble.  Also, they've won 10+ games (including bowls) 7 out of the last 10 seasons, and 11+ 5 of those 7 years.  And fine, even if we ignore the bowl game I still see them winning 9+ games at the absolute bare minimum.  

DrMantisToboggan

September 15th, 2019 at 11:29 PM ^

I know their schedule. Michigan, OSU, Iowa, Nebraska, Purdue, Minnesota are all losable games for them. Shit, even Northwestern can hang - they beat Wisconsin last year.

I’ve got them at 8-4. Adjusted that up from what I had preseason, but we don’t know shit about them that we didn’t know before the season started. They’ve played two doormats that they just sat on. I still don’t think they win the West.

bronxblue

September 16th, 2019 at 10:47 AM ^

Sure, anyone can lose basically any game.  But do I think 2019 Purdue, Nebraska, Minnesota, or NW are going to give them much trouble?  Not really.  And who the hell knows how they look against OSU; The Buckeyes always have a couple of rough games and Wisconsin is as likely as any to catch them.

I think we actually know quite a bit about Wisconsin.  They have a young QB and some new offensive linemen, but Taylor is an elite back, they have better receivers than last year, and a lot of guys on that defense who were young last year are back and (presumably) better.  And despite everything that went wrong for them last year they still won 8 games.  So yeah, a 2-game improvement on that isn't crazy to expect.

But whatever, it's still a good team.