sheepdog

October 8th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^

Not shitting on JOK or Speight but does anyone know WHY Peters has fallen so far back?

We have had maybe two or three series all year of good QB play. Why no minutes for Peters?

bronxblue

October 8th, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^

Hopefully he has a full recovery. Also, and I mean this with all the sincerity in my body, fuck everyone who talks shits about him and question his heart or his ability. Also, hopefully last night's game further highlights how this offense and it's struggles aren't tied to just the QB.

klctlc

October 8th, 2017 at 10:08 AM ^

This feels like 2008 when Sheridan and Threet were Qb's.  The defense today is so much better, but during the game you just feel like there is no chance to score. 

I was almost happy when M punted thinking the defense had a better chance to move the ball.

I know o'korn is better than Sheridan, but he is just not good.  His second interception he had Evans wide open in the flat, but he can only follow his primary target.

AmayzNblue

October 8th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^

You may be right. The fan base will not tolerate it. There is a growing contingent of our fans that are not foolishly calling for firings of Drevno and/or Pep.

I agree with your sentiment, though. Might as well use the remainder of the season to get Peters really prepped well for 2018. No amount of offseason hype will convince any of us he is ready unless we see it in actual games this year.

UMProud

October 8th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^

Fan base has zero influence...JH is stubborn until something clicks in his head. Hopefully this game caused a click that will result in some coaching changes

Don

October 8th, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^

but considering the way he was hit, it's also fortunate he didn't (apparently) sustain a more serious injury that impairs his mobility. 

Football's a dangerous game.

LSAClassOf2000

October 8th, 2017 at 10:16 AM ^

The initial news gave me a sinking feeling that "several weeks" might mean "not soon enough to make much of a difference, however the season goes", but if it is the case that he's officially done for the year, then I kind of agree with others - I have a couple games that I think shifted to the "draw" and "lean loss" category barring some quick fixes to the offense. Maybe that's me being pessimistic, but that changes my thinking on some upcoming weeks quite a bit. 

uminks

October 8th, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^

But I think his football career is over. Get your degree Wilton and have a successful career. O'Korn will ride out this season. Hopefully he improves but am worried he does not have the talent. I would not mind seeing more of Peters.

GreyJello

October 8th, 2017 at 12:55 PM ^

Have to agree. The Iowa injury last year broke him as a quarterback. He has been playing tentatively ever since.

The play where he tried to lob the ball over a defender to Crawford rather than just powering into the endzone with his size and momentum is an example.

Perkis-Size Me

October 8th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^

Sucks, but I'm honestly not sure last night's result is much different with him under center. The offense was dead in the water with him against Purdue, and likely would've been even moreso last night.

At this point, I think it's time to see what you have with Peters. Speight is done for the year and O'Korn is what he is.

Catchafire

October 8th, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^

Enough with the Peters crap. It was the same thing with JOK and Speight. Problem is oline and coaching. The RBs should be a strength due to seniority; the WRs are all young. But the line can't hold for shit. Peters solves nothing.

Jahjah7170

October 8th, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^

This is about experience, not fixing all our problems overnight. Sure, the OL and WR were trash. Why not find out how much was on them and how much was on the QBs. We have nothing to lose from Peters starting. If he plays terribly then it is just like the first 5 games of the year. If we plays well then that would be a big deal. What is there to lose?

UofMfanINcolumbus

October 8th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^

Maybe Harbaugh isn't the QB guru we thought. Jake Rudock - average, Wilton Speight - decent/average, JOK - so far under average. I feel like in college football today you need a dual threat QB. We just don't have one. We're one of those teams that always seems to be a few players away from being elite. It sucks.

Double-D

October 8th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^

Fumbles, Int, TD killing penalties, a dropped wide open pass at the 25 with 20 seconds, OKorn running when he has open field. This loss stings but the level bullshit from this fan base right now is a joke.

Woodstock Wolverine

October 8th, 2017 at 10:35 AM ^

This may not be a popular opinion but the season is not over. All of our goals are still ahead of us. Teams can and do turn seasons around all the time. O korn is our best option to win now, stupid to call the season lost and to start preparing for next year. Let's fucking win this year!

Red is Blue

October 8th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

I agree the season is not over.  I don't think you can scrap whatever remains of this year to try and prepare for next.  That being said, I have a hard time not seeing a few more losses for this team.  Last night was not an anomaly on offense, it is the trend finally catching up to us.  Unless Peters is better now, then I think you need to ride it out with OKorn.

corundum

October 8th, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^

Maybe the offense needs to be simplified to be easier on the QB. Teams all over the country are being successful with less experienced and younger QBs with even less surrounding talent. FSU is trotting out a 6’5” 170 lb true freshman and would probably only have one loss if they had our defense. Iowa State just beat Oklahoma with the third string QB on the road with days notice of the situation.

The Fan in Fargo

October 8th, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^

If there is a loss to PSU, Peters or McCaffrey has to play. This offense is too young and UN-DEVELOPED to get it done this year. Conference title hopes will probably be gone after a loss in that game. Fuck the bowl game. Plan for next year.

jjelliso

October 8th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^

Don't start Peters or McCaffrey. They'll just have their confidence destroyed with this trash O line, garbage receivers, and embarrassing play calling. Let Okorn and the team limp to 8-4 and a December 26 bowl. Maybe reduce the snaps for Bush and Gars so they don't get hurt.

MGOTokyo

October 8th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^

The season continues.  With O'korn, we have our best chance to win, and we have to do that.  Perhaps he improves enough to be competitive with the PSUs and Wisconsins of the world. The guy has only started 2 games in 3 years. Yes, perhaps looking at 8-4, but anything worse with either Peters or McCaffrey kills our progress over the past 2 years and even further kills recruiting in '18 and '19. The cycle continues as we move towards mediocrity.

O'korn plays at least the next few games. Hopefully improves. If we continue to lose, then turn it over to one of the freshmen so that they can get experience before next year.

BlueChitown

October 8th, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^

Sorry to hear that, for Speight.  Not fun to be injured.  From a football perspective though, Speight was not doing us many favors.  I think a lot of O'Korn's INT woes yesterday were due to passing it repeatedly in the pouring rain.  Not possible to be accurate in that, and difficult to judge the field.  Distance, speed, rhythm, all that gets thrown off in a monsoon.  So I'm up for giving him another chance. 

O'Korn also did some good things out there, a few of which were negated by penalty or WR error.  And I think Michigan has the best chance of winning games with him going forward this year.

BTW, I don't fault the coaches for passing it either.  We needed to get something going, and the run game wasn't working.

Z_Wolverista

October 8th, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^

dayum. 

That's potentially a lifelong injury. I looked at the tape again, in light of this information. Must've been in incredible pain.

Has to be demoralizing for a coach, as well. the feeling you can't effectively protect your man. No wonder O'Korn is skittish & quick to bolt.

As for "soft tissue" -- clearly a case of not wanting to show one's hand, plus the instinct to camoflague serious injury. Understandable enuff.

 

 

DonBrownSoda

October 8th, 2017 at 11:59 AM ^

I say start Peters. Let him and the Oline play together. RS Freshman QBs gotta start sometime. Don’t fool yourself thinking we will run the table with OKorn. We are looking at 8-4 this year so let’s Peters some reps

bklein09

October 8th, 2017 at 12:55 PM ^

Was Speight on the bench last night? I remember a shot of okorn after one of the picks and there was a guy next to him in the corner with a rain hood over most of his face. But it looked like Wilton. And he looked depressed. Not that I could blame him under the circumstances.

Blue Durham

October 8th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^

the last thing I would want to see is Peters or McCaffrey in the game. This line is about last in the FBS in sacks allowed. Last thing we need is another broken QB. O'Korn is decent at avoiding the rush (should have tucked it and run more last night) and its his last year. The other 2 are not ready.