Will USC & UCLA ever actually be forced to play an outdoor "cold weather" Big Ten football game in mid/late Nov?

They didn't join the sec. That's some California dreamin' right there.

OSU will probably join in their efforts.

Highly doubt that the B1G schedulers will deliberately shield them from cold weather games, but they're also likely to avoid a lot of it.

They'll always play each other in November, and in years where ND is playing at USC during the final week, they might end with two straight LA games (I suspect UCLA will have to schedule a non-conference game for rivalry week on those years, if the ND-USC series continues).

That leaves 2-3 Big Ten games in early November per year, half of which will be home games. So 1-2 road games in early November, per year. The weather in early November can be cold/snowy, but isn't consistently cold/snowy.

I'd just love to see them play games that end on the same day they start. I'd bet anything their late games were a contributing factor in the PAC never getting a top TV contract, nobody was watching by the time they kicked off. 

So they will the traditional UCLA- USC last game of the season .

So between two of them they should average 3 -4 more away games in the month of Nov.

Since they aren't playing Washington and oregon every year.  No they will have to play in November in other 14 Big ten teams probably once a year to 3 times

Maybe the Big ten would bend to USC.. but UCLA go pound sand.  What are they going to do stay in the Pac -2?

Will thye try to get maryland or buy I dunno a MSU game in Ford field?  

Yes, they will.

I'm okay if that is the deal for a year or two as they get used to the Big Ten. But if we're five years in and neither has played late in the season at Michigan or Wisconsin, I'll be pretty upset. No reason to bend over backwards eternally for the new teams.

Will road games in northern climes be less frequent? Probably. 

USC plays away to Notre Dame in October, but always hosts them Thanksgiving weekend. On those years they will play away at UCLA the week before. 

But less frequent is not never. It will probably feel relatively novel when it happens, but they'll play in these neighborhoods occasionally.

Whether they actually get truly bad cold weather is a different question; as others have observed, *we* don't see it that often ourselves. November is still pretty early for that stuff in most of B1G country. 

I expect it to be limited, but it'll happen. When USC plays 5 big ten road games, they play ND at home on Thanksgiving, travel to UCLA, which means only 4 league trips outside of LA and they've already got 2 november dates occupied. in 2024, one of those 4 trips is to Washington - so it seems likely the other 3 could be in September and October. In 2025 they have 3 midwestern road trips and Rutgers, ND will be in October and UCLA on Thanksgiving, so it's likely then that they play one of those 4 road games in November (New Jersey ain't as cold but it's colder than the west coast).

For UCLA it's simpler - they'll always have a November game in LA against USC, and 4 other road trips. In '24 and '25 they're going to the midwest 3 times and to the east coast once.

I think you'll see SC and UCLA play early November games in the midwest. Early November can be chilly, but snow usually isn't happening yet, and if it is it doesn't stick for too long. I imagine there'll be years where they stay west all November long - like USC in 2024 - but I think UCLA will be in colder climes in both seasons. But the majority of their November will probably be in SoCal.

Will they play in November? They damn well better but as a season ticket holder, I hope when USC/UCLA come to Ann Arbor they never play in cold, rainy weather because those games suck. It doesn't happen often but when they do, just horrible. 

USC reportedly has a similar deal in place with Notre Dame right now, where they never have to play in South Bend after Oct. 31.

I'd be shocked if they get any such treatment from the B1G.  As far as I know, there are no similar calendar restrictions in the ACC...Miami (ytM) and FSU have to go to Boston College in November, I don't see why B1G officials would give any special consideration to the SoCal teams.

USC has been playing ND home and home for years, and I'm sure, without checking, that they've had some challenging weather in South Bend from time to time. Maybe not late November Snow Bowl, but they should be used to Midwest weather.

Here you go. They played in snow at Colorado last year. But their last snow game prior to that was indeed at ND ...in 1957.https://twitter.com/USC_Athletics/status/404030896497360898

I’ve always thought that weather is an important element that makes a statement about the adaptability and hence, quality of a team. This is especially true in college where programs tend to be built for the condition that they play in. If a team can’t play effectively in all weather conditions it isn’t a championship-caliber team and the Big Ten should not make an added accommodation that advantages the new West Coast teams at the expense of existing conference members. We already have to put up with that garbage in bowl games and playoffs. Sorry, but if traditional Big Ten teams have to play in warm weather and adapt to their fast-paced style of play, they should have to suck it up and prove their mettle by playing in cold weather. This is especially true since they are the newbs and asked to join the Big Ten rather than the other way around. 

You guys are joking right? You can't seriously believe there's any chance USC is never made to play a road game in November, right? Obviously they will be, and I look forward to seeing them get smashed when it happens.

Isn’t this why when SC plays ND in LA it’s the last game of the year, but not when they play in S. Bend?

Surely the B1G schedulers who gave PSU a bye the week before playing Michigan every year for several years when they first joined would never make such an accommodation to our newest members, would they?

Yes it’d make for great TV and that’s what TV wants 

Will OSU start off playing USC, Oregon, and Washington? No of course not. Will they end up playing the lowest ranked of the 4 while that is the only new team NOT on Michigan's schedule? Of course!

I believe at least for the first few years the B10 will make sure the Bruins and Trojans do not play in the cold.  There is every reason for the B10 not to schedule them in the cold.  Of course it’s not fair but in a business as large as B10 FB going forward they will think and act beyond fair in what they do.

The OP makes a thread over a random "comment" he read somewhere. This is almost certainly nonsense and doesn't merit a thread.

Maybe October then?

Then I'll transition to fully NFL.  CFB isn't what it was anyways.

I'm obviously not a decision-maker in this process, but if you didn't want to play in Big Ten weather, then you shouldn't have stuck your hand out for that bag of money. 

You shouldn't be able to have it both ways. Playing in cold weather in November should be part of the deal, and it reeks of "ND special treatment" BS. I'm all for bundling away games and home games around each other so you're minimizing on travel costs, but I don't think you should get a say on when that happens in the schedule. 

You all wanted this. Either agree to the schedule that you get, or go back to the Pac-12. Or Pac-2, or whatever its called now. 

They’ll allow it but the travel goes both ways. UM has always struggled in OOC games on the west coast. It’s a problem and not even just the wind and temperature.

the short answer is yes, it will eventually happen.

you question almost implies that its not likely to play in shitty weather in Sept or Oct in the midwest and that's untrue.    temps in the upper 40's to lower 50's with gusty winds and rain are pretty miserable playing conditions and aren't uncommon in Oct or even late Sept.

Weather is just a statistic

USC, UCLA are not biigger brands than Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State. 

I doubt they would get any preferential treatment at the expense of those schools.

No team deserves to escape potential weather because they demand to be a pack of protected pussies.

They will play those games eventually. Parity is coming.

I mean...yes?  USC and UCLA will try but at some point the league will just assign them a game at Purdue or whatever and that'll be it.  Maybe USC is some major national brand and can try to throw its weird around but UCLA is a mediocre, at best, football school.  They've got basically the same number of wins historically as MSU (611 to 600) and basically the same winning percentage (58%).  They aren't getting out of playing Purdue in November.