Where do you think potential recruits fall on the spectrum of overall sports "knowledge" from MLive to MGoBlog?
I wrote (roughly) in an earlier thread that any reasonable Michigan fan knew there was a 0% chance Harbaugh was taking the Rams job, but that it was still important for him to squash the rumors because recruits may not be as well-versed in the context as faithful MGoBloggers.
After going on MLive, ESPN, and even /r/nfl and seeing some of the highlights of those discussions, I now have brain cancer. The weird power that anonymity on the internet provides aside, it is hard to rationalize how uninformed/misinformed/incapable-of-being-informed so many people are while holding such steadfast opinions. The discourse on here can get embarrassing at times both in terms of invalidity of the content and nastiness of the tone (and I admit I'm guilty of contributing to both at times), but there is a day-and-night difference between here and, say, MLive.
That all being said, where do you think recruits generally fall on this spectrum? On the one hand, sports is a major part of their lives so they most likely consume lots of sports media and thus are going to be generally more well-informed. They also have a vested interest in making a well-informed opinion. On the other hand, negative recruiting based on empty speculation has worked in the past, and these kids are still relatively young and impressionable, plus we live in an age of pop news and social media where facts aren't as important as feelings--which is especially true in the mainstream sports media world.
So, would you say more MLive or more MGoBlog?
tl;dr: DAE SPORTZ?!!
December 13th, 2016 at 9:32 PM ^
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December 14th, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^
it seems you forgot a key portion of the spectrum on which "potential recruits need to fall ... of overall sports knowledge," and that is the truly vital source of information that only we mgobloggers have access to, which is
THE KNOWLEDGE.
YES.
December 13th, 2016 at 9:33 PM ^
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December 14th, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^
Dude, get out of my head!
December 13th, 2016 at 9:41 PM ^
but I know plenty of people who aren't Michigan fans but are very knowledgable about sports, and they cringe at the ESPN comment sections just like any of us. There aren't many MGoBlog type sites for other sporting team, but there are plenty of knowledgeable fans of other teams.
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They aren't spectators in this category, I don't think they fit neatly into categories.
In this particular case, what they are hearing directly from schools far outweighs the noise from the media. They already know that the media can get stuff wrong, since most of them have probably heard recruiting speculation about them that bears no resemblance to reality.
What they hear that matters is stuff from the teams. Now if coaches are being deceitful, that can have an effect, but they also know what guys like Jim Harbaugh are like in person, too, an experience that surely swamps whatever rumors one might pick up on twitter. They've looked him in the eye, shaken his hand, spent time in his office.
In that sense, they are far wiser than either Mlive or Mgoblog readers, because they are primary sources.
December 13th, 2016 at 9:45 PM ^
plenty of coaches have gone to recruits' homes and looked the players and their families in the eyes and said they're not going anywhere, only to be named head coach at Screw U niversity the next day.
December 13th, 2016 at 9:54 PM ^
The average recruit probably doesn't know much about that, though. If a coach tells him face-to-face that he's staying put, he'll likely believe it.
December 13th, 2016 at 10:07 PM ^
You'd think the Mike Weber story of the OSU RB coach leaving THE DAY AFTER Weber signed should be common knowledge to every recruit considering the Buckeyes.
December 13th, 2016 at 10:29 PM ^
Teenagers tend to be rather egocentric in their thinking. If a coach tells them he's staying, they probably aren't going to care about what happened to someone else.
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Having spent my time in the frozen forests of the Detnews and Freep comment sections, I can say the people here are much more informed and reasonable. I can only hope that the kids playing the game, talking to the teams, don't even waste thier times with those places. I've looked at MLive comments, too, and they are the same as the Detroit papers. The foolishness is off the charts.
I sincerely hope that no players frequent those places - either high school, college, or NFL players! For that matter, I also sincerely hope they don't look at the various snowflake threads on MGoBlog...
December 13th, 2016 at 10:46 PM ^
After reading the Detroit News and Freep comments, it's a minor miracle you can read or speak English at all. Holy Moses, there's some fucked up people over there.
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December 13th, 2016 at 10:03 PM ^
I wrote a long, thoughtful post in response to this thread that insulted just about everyone on earth.
I especially insulted people that watch television shows that I think are stupid. I used clever wordplay, artful metaphors and striking witticisms to make my points.
Then I realized what a fucking idiot I am so I stopped.
December 13th, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^
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I don't quite get what you're asking...but I'll say some recruits read everything from the major sites. Unfortunately, usually those posters aren't as mature or in touch of what's going on and it's very ESPN-headline/Average fan type content (from the visitors).
MGoBlog is much more in depth, and IMO, for the fan who wants to discuss real topics with other real fans who have the same interest...and not just headlines.
MGoBlog has a niche, because it's content while Michigan, is different. MLive is taking a line from a presser and writing a story or fluff content. 24/7 is the same - they just have much more of it and their insiders make up for it with amazing info on the message board.
I know some recruits that don't listen to any of it, usually these are the more major recruits. They go off of what the coaches are saying and don't pay attention to fans. I figure it's because if you're that good, you've seen the good and bad of every fanbase.
It's not just recruits...it's everyone. People believe what they hear/read if they hear/read it enough. Not to go politics, but most people got their insight on the election from social media. Facebook and Twitter aren't news sources (or are they?). In fact, there are polls that show much of the content on Facebook was wrong and often times intentionally wrong, but those folks knew people would read it and take it as fact.
All said, this Harbaugh to the Rams thing was purely media driven. They took some tweets by Eric Dickerson and ran with it for 2-3 days. No one even on the Rams side ever even hinted at Harbaugh. So Harbaugh has to address it because you can't turn on the TV without his frickin name being mentioned with the Rams search. And just about all kids watch TV, and coaches will negatively recruit to that.
I don't think this had anything to do with what you were talking about...but I'm soooooo bored without football! I wish #MACtion was on.
December 13th, 2016 at 10:21 PM ^
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December 13th, 2016 at 10:37 PM ^
I'll just speak for Michigan knowledge here....
The question as it is phrased would force me to answer that recruits - especially those who aren't in the Great Lakes or, more specifically Michigan or NW Ohio - probably make me think that it is more on an MLive level.
Like someone sort of said, MGoBlog is actually a pretty insular community - we are the highly engaged and more educated segment of the fanbase in that we have much more Michigan-specific knowledge than the average fan of the school. Not every place that covers Michigan has debates on OREB% and how to fix it or has the attendance figures for the last 40 years of football or two or three dedicated softball folks at their disposal.
If we're talking about overall knowledge, I don't want to presume really.
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December 13th, 2016 at 11:05 PM ^
Are we talking overall sports knowledge like the title says? Or how likely are they to believe a rumor about Harbaugh/what they would post on a message board?
Actual overall sports knowledge I'd say most are above the average MGoBlogger, especially in whatever sport they're being recruiting in... which is probably obvious.
As far as message board postings, well they're probably too busy with their actual sport to spend much time on online sports forums. Maybe some stuff on twitter, but who knows.
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December 13th, 2016 at 11:39 PM ^
I get most of my news from the National Enquirer. Suckers choose less.
December 14th, 2016 at 7:54 AM ^
After going on MLive, ESPN, and even /r/nfl and seeing some of the highlights of those discussions, I now have brain cancer.That made me laugh.
December 14th, 2016 at 8:37 AM ^
many hardly watch college games, or root for any teams. They have very little interest outside of their world. Practice and school all week, game friday, visits saturday, rest/film study sunday. Outside of their social media, I doubt they interact much. Of the 7 or 8 current D1 players I know, none watched ANY cfb games on tv, much less read the local papers.
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"it is hard to rationalize how uninformed/misinformed/incapable-of-being-informed so many people are while holding such steadfast opinions."
Really OP? Recent events seem to confirm that we're living in a post-fact era.