What have you heard about our opponents? Fall practice info, injuries, etc.

Submitted by bluewave720 on August 22nd, 2019 at 12:55 PM

Like many of you, I have been refreshing this site excessively as the inevitability of football season approaches. 

What have you folks heard about the teams on our schedule?  I read the OSU insider reported Fields has matured significantly . . . in 3 weeks time.  I also saw the thread about Michael Young breaking his collar bone (all injuries to CFB players are bad things).

Anybody heard any other info that may not be "big enough" for it's own thread?  

Bo Harbaugh

August 22nd, 2019 at 5:15 PM ^

And...

OSU cheats and the entire community is a football cult covering for the program's degeneracy 

MSU covers up scandals (sex and violence) and shoots up their inferior recruits with PEDs

PSU remains morally bankrupt and excuses the Joe Pa Pedo scandal still

ND has a purple faced coach that killed a cameraman and covered up sexual violence cases

Bodogblog

August 22nd, 2019 at 1:03 PM ^

MSU's offensive line continues to be in flux, it seems.  Cole Chewins continues to miss time or at least be limited, and he's their best OL by far.  If he can't go at tackle, forget any improvement from last year, they'll be awful on offense full stop.  Jordan Reid is their starting right tackle, and though he can't run block worth a damn (can't get movement on anyone), he was a decent pass protector.  The shuffles I've seen mentioned on their boards have him being replaced as a starter, which is interesting.  I think that speaks to the desperation of the staff to get some lineman who can move DL, because the run game is dead without it.  I don't think any of it will work for them. 

bluewave720

August 22nd, 2019 at 1:12 PM ^

I will never wish for injuries, but hearing that their Oline is having a hard time with alternate lineups sounds great.  I know their defense is going to be very good, but it's all connected, obviously. Dlines get a lot less fierce when they are looking at 90 snaps a game.  

A State Fan

August 22nd, 2019 at 2:16 PM ^

I don't think Chewins is the best OL by a longshot, but he I think is the preferred LT starter if he can go.

They've talked all fall camp about "managing" him, which seems like he's got a long term or chronic issue. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses that LT job at some point this year.

Bodogblog

August 22nd, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^

I would be curious to know who you believe is the best OL.  Chewins is the correct answer by some distance, which admittedly isn't saying much.  The last Allen brother has been a disappointment, Higby was sitting in Lewerke's lap and/or not doing much of anything when in.  Reid I mention above.  Jarvis was a 4*, so I know the MSU fan base thinks he's special / has potential, but he's just a guy. 

A State Fan

August 22nd, 2019 at 3:55 PM ^

You're right that Allen isn't what he brothers were. But I think it's Reid or Jarvis, potentially followed by Allen. 

My argument for that is: Reid and Jarvis were the only two players who's starting job was never questioned last year. Everyone else shuffled around even when healthy, but those two seemed very locked in to their starting jobs. Allen once he took over in week 3 (ish? hard to remember) also seemed locked in until he got hurt late in the season. 

Bodogblog

August 22nd, 2019 at 4:32 PM ^

Chewins' job was never in question from what I understood, he was only out when he was hurt.  You know this because he was hurt for several games, then magically returned for the Michigan game.  They were resting him for that one.  Unfortunately for MSU, he must have still been hurt, because Uche (I believe) went around him like he was nothing on an early drive and back to the hurt bench he went.  

I think Chewins is a legitimately good player, both run and pass blocker, when healthy.  I can't say that about anyone else: Allen poor run, OK pass; Jarvis poor run, OK pass; Reid poor run, good pass; Higby poor run, poor pass; Campbell lol pass lol run (though he was a decent run blocker a couple of years ago at right tackle, what happened to him?  terrible pass protector, but why not move him to guard) 

I do appreciate your view though.  Do you see any way the OL improves for MSU this year?  I could see the hope that Jarvis takes a leap, but based on the spring game he's just a guy. 

A State Fan

August 22nd, 2019 at 4:55 PM ^

Man, the way the MSU coaches were talking up Campbell in fall camp last year just to see him flail around last year was disappointing.

I think Chewins was still hurt when he came back last year, because he was in and out of that position a lot. Not even like missing drives (MSU does like to play 7-8 OL a game), but coming out mid-drive a few times to come back in later. I'm old enough to remember him vs a freshman Gary in garbage time 3 years ago and I thought he was going to be good then.

I don't think MSUs OL gets much better. Maybe every guy improves a little, but that's probably not good enough. I also think they weren't helped at all by the MSU RBs. Scott/Heyward/Jefferson all lack the speed to hit the edge, so every non-jet sweep run just had LBs barreling downhill on them. That's why I want one of our younger RBs to get a shot, I think they could help the OL by just hitting a hole faster.

I saw an article that Bollman thought all the guys were too light, so they're all up like 15lbs from last year, who knows if that's a) true, or b) a good thing.

Bodogblog

August 22nd, 2019 at 5:35 PM ^

Appreciate your thoughts, hope you enjoy the season despite a soul crushing loss to Michigan.  

I do think MSU will beat OSU this year.  I think you guys are a 7-5/8-4 team, with one big win.  With a great run D and Fields a questionable passer, I think you shut down their O and Lewerke has an "on" game (he's so inconsistent) and you pull it out. 

I am very down on OSU this year though, relative to national expectations.  

CRISPed in the DIAG

August 22nd, 2019 at 1:42 PM ^

Oozes Ohio.

Looks like the guy who plays in the foursome behind you on the public golf course. This guy hits his ball while you're only 100 yards ahead of him. At some point he'll tell you that you're not playing fast enough (which, you know, you're not) and you'll kick his ball into the sand while heading to the next tee stand. You could just let him play through, but fuck it. He's also wearing jorts and a dri-fit Under Armor shirt.