What Happened to Louisville Men's Basketball?

Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on January 28th, 2023 at 12:25 PM

I just noticed that their record is 2-18 and they are getting beaten down by a bad Notre Dame team. How did they get so awful after being a perennial contender for a final four?

Daleppard

January 28th, 2023 at 12:39 PM ^

My brother is at this game. It was a birthday present to him. I told him he should have told the gift giver to return it...lol. I am sure he is miserable. He loves his Louisville Bball. Made me so mad when we got fucked by the refs. Even he admitted that we should have won that game. 

Go Blue!!!!

MGoVictory

January 28th, 2023 at 1:45 PM ^

What death penalty? Louisville got a slap on the wrist, and the penalty came down less than three months ago

 

"An independent panel has placed Louisville men's basketball on two years' probation and fined the program $5,000, but spared the school -- and former coaches Rick Pitino and Chris Mack -- major penalties from NCAA allegations leveled in the aftermath of a federal investigation of corruption in college basketball.

The Independent Resolution Panel (IRP) announced Thursday that Louisville avoided a postseason ban and other significant sanctions in the infractions case that began with the FBI's 2017 investigation into corruption around college basketball and the school's relationship with former star recruit Brian Bowen Jr.

Louisville was also given a two-week ban on unofficial visits and a public reprimand and censure."

TruBluMich

January 28th, 2023 at 2:10 PM ^

Louisville got fined $600,000, stripped (pun intended) of the 2013 NCAA Title, was ineligible for the 2016 postseason, vacated 123 wins, reduction in scholarships, and Pitino was suspended for 5 games.  The next scandal is what got Pitino fired and what you are referencing. The fall out of both of those scandals and the uncertainty of the penalties had an effect on recruiting and hiring.  Add that to, having to follow the rules while the other school in the state has been buying players well before it was "ok" to do so sums up what happen to Louisville.

jmblue

January 28th, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^

The NCAA didn't kill our program.  The first Ed Martin investigation didn't even turn up much evidence, since the players refused to talk.  We decided to fire Fisher anyway (because of the appearance of impropriety) and then promoted his #3 assistant - who had just been fired by Loyola (Md.) - to the head job.    

The second NCAA investigation, when Amaker was here, found some hard evidence because of the FBI involvement, but the punishment still wasn't that terrible: one lost scholarship per year for four years, and a one-year postseason ban.  That's not why we went a full decade without making the tournament.

WestQuad

January 28th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^

Evidently Chris Mack and now Kenny Payne are not very good basketball coaches.  ...or they were on the straight and narrow and schools like Louisville and Kentucky don't thrive on the straight and narrow. 

There is a colonial myth that Kentucky was a dark and bloody ground and that native americans didn't live there. It was a huanted or evil place. However, when there are "people" like Rick Pitino there, you got to think there is some connection to Satan or evil forces in Kentucky.

Jordan2323

January 28th, 2023 at 1:09 PM ^

Living in Kentucky, born and raised, but hating UK as much as I do, most fans said Kenny Payne leaving was the reason Cal was struggling now. They looked at Payne as the glue.

I do think a lot of people forget that there are very few elite coaches and that’s why the K’s and Jay Wright’s of the world stayed around so long and also why there are so many retreads. Assistant coaches don’t always materialize as good to great head coaches. 

FrankMurphy

January 28th, 2023 at 1:35 PM ^

Jay Wright might be the greatest coach of his generation, hands down. Dude built championship teams without recruiting at anywhere near a championship level (at least on paper).

He's also a rare instance of someone who has the look of a scumbag (good-looking dude with slicked-back hair who wears designer suits) but isn't actually a scumbag. 

BleedThatBlue

January 28th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^

Kenny Payne and Orlando Antigua were the ones whom are thought to be the reason was Cal was been so successful. After bringing in the predecessors it’s been downhill since. The offense is abysmal. Brewster is beyond poor. I think the 3 cannot be split up cause all three (so far) have failed without each other. KP is too soon to tell given the amount of issues UL has had. Go Blue, beat Kansas. 

Jordan2323

January 28th, 2023 at 1:16 PM ^

And man I’m sitting here, actually watching some college basketball on CBS and Clark Kellogg made mention of the brackets and then it cut away to that CBS music for college basketball it went to commercial and it made me get all glum. Barring a miracle, Michigan isn’t gonna be a part of March Madness in a long time and that sucks!

pinkfloyd2000

January 28th, 2023 at 1:18 PM ^

Is it any consolation at all that Ohio State (probably) won't be in it, either?

For me, maybe a LITTLE BIT.

But yeah. My excitement for March Madness has definitely been tempered this season, to say the least. Barring a run to the conference championship game (and they may actually need to win it, too), Michigan basketball just ain't gonna make it. 

Jordan2323

January 28th, 2023 at 1:52 PM ^

If McGary doesn’t smoke himself stupid in 2014, when we got beat on a last second heave by UK, that was a national title team too. Man, Beilein put together some ball clubs but couldn’t get the breaks/whistles that he absolutely deserved. 

Clarence Boddicker

January 28th, 2023 at 2:21 PM ^

It's an understandable regression. Louisville is essentially a commuter school with a big enrollment and not-so-great academics, but the decent roster of well-heeled alums needed to pay kids playing under a big name coach. Denny Crum was a great recruiter--like Guy Lewis he embraced street ball and honed it to the fast-break pressing style that gave birth to the Doctors of Dunk. Pitino is a scuzzy human, but he can certainly recruit and coach. But outside of those two they haven't had much success because without the big name coach what is there to attract great players to Louisville when they play with much bigger programs in the ACC, UK is just down the road, and Big Ten teams are a short hop away?