Vince Marrow says, "Sparty, no"
I think Tucker is a heckuva pull for MSU to get as their rebound coach. He's a proven recruiter that may be able to pull a few _uckeye leftovers and in state kids to EL. With Marrow, his crootin' may have been further weaponized.
https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-football/article240312876.html
February 14th, 2020 at 7:19 PM ^
Sparty is known for not taking "no" for an answer
February 14th, 2020 at 7:24 PM ^
Maybe because “Sparty Noooo!” is a thing?
February 14th, 2020 at 7:20 PM ^
He must have got that raise he was fishing for.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:24 PM ^
He got a bump last month after flirting with the Youngstown St HC job. This may have put a bump on his bump.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:20 PM ^
Yeah...but did he get a raise?
February 14th, 2020 at 7:23 PM ^
Is Tucker really a heck of a pull? He went 5-7 in his only year as coach. There is a difference between being good as an assistant at a stacked program and running a middle of the road big ten program. Just ask bobby williams.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^
I'm going to assume OP is being sarcastic. Otherwise, I think Michigan fans are generally scared to get our hopes up.
This hire was a disaster. It's the Big Ten's next Rich Rod.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^
This is much worse than Rich Rod. Rich was a proven winner. Tucker is 5-7 career.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:59 PM ^
Famous last words...
February 14th, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^
So you're saying he's "lying in the weeds"?
February 15th, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^
Never count someone out. Tucker may not have found his footing yet at Colorado, and has a lot of experience. That said, MSU botched the search horribly and Tucker doesn't seem like a first choice, or positioned for success.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:47 PM ^
Sparty should be so lucky.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:29 PM ^
His resume upward trajectory seems closer to the deserved end of the spectrum than the "failing upward" Lane Kiffin path. I don't think he'll last the length of his contract, but I do think he will recruit well enough to leave more in the cupboard than when Dantonio firebombed it. That's why I referred to him as "rebound coach"
February 14th, 2020 at 7:45 PM ^
Actually it seems very Kiffinesque to me. He was repeatedly hired, and canned, as an NFL DC. Then he took a big step backward to being a college position coach, as another of Saban's reclamation projects. Then he got to be DC under a defensive-oriented head coach, before landing a college head coaching job. One 5-7 season on the job somehow earned him a huge contract at another school.
February 14th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
He got his pay doubled after one year where he went 5-7, the same record as the coach fired before him posted the previous year.
Nothing about that screams smart move by MSU. His deserved career trajectory is at least a couple more seasons at CU to see if he can build something.
Leaving more in the cupboard than Dantonio is such a low bar to clear and yet it's not a guarantee. If Tucker struggles on the field, his recruiting will suffer too.
February 15th, 2020 at 12:28 AM ^
Giving up on Rocky Lombardi and Theo Day already?? Get lost
February 14th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
Reposting this since it took a minute to research and it’s worth seeing.
Tucker's NFL defenses (as DC) ranked by yards per play in order of year, 2008-2014.
25,27,32,8,21,32,29.
Tuckers defenses ranked by SP+ at UGA (and year before and after for context.
Before ranked 2, during 14,12,8, after 1.
Tucker's defense at Colorado
before 58 and his one season 105.
So there we have it. If anyone has a better stat for NFL than yards per play please share. I couldn't find a SP+ NFL equivalent.
February 14th, 2020 at 9:23 PM ^
Frankly the 5-7 record doesn’t really move the needle for me, other than the fact that he has no other HC experience save for the interim gig at Jacksonville,
Colorado sucked before he got there. Obviously it would be a better sign for state if he had pulled a Harbaugh and doubled their wins in the first year but I’m not basing much on his Colorado record
February 14th, 2020 at 10:47 PM ^
Colorado went 10-3, 5-7 and 5-7 in the three years before him. He had a 4-year starter (Montez) at QB.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:23 PM ^
“Heckuva rebound” yea for 5-7...this reeks “FergOdsakes”
February 14th, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^
Keith Appling was just arrested with heroin in other dumpster fire news. Hope he gets the help he needs.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:07 PM ^
A heroine you say? Was it Electra? Hecuba? Ah, I've got it. Keith Appling was arrested with Atalanta!
February 14th, 2020 at 9:14 PM ^
Ripping Appling and Izzo about the rape is definitely fair game. They both deserved to be locked up for a long while for that shit. The key should be thrown in Lake Michigan.
drug addiction, especially heroin, isn’t anything to joke about. I hope he gets the help he needs, for his family’s sake
February 14th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^
Was just going to post this. Glad you already pointed this out. Heroin is an evil drug. Addiction issues are off limits in rivalry banter
February 14th, 2020 at 7:26 PM ^
This should not be a thread. Sparty overload on this board lately.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:52 PM ^
Aren't you the guy who kept posting Comparoni updates?
February 14th, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^
Sparty is our #2 most important rival. Something as important for them as their #1 assistant target saying no is worth a thread. Or would you rather a thread where y’all talk about what you are drinking ?
February 15th, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
Hint, was posted by a sparty
February 14th, 2020 at 7:40 PM ^
Imagine going after Marrow and not getting him. Couldn’t have been us.
February 14th, 2020 at 7:59 PM ^
It had to be said.
This is a sad thread. Almost Sparty-esque.
February 15th, 2020 at 12:11 AM ^
Yea...nice try by the OP but he’s a Sparty so pretty easy to sniff it out
February 14th, 2020 at 8:06 PM ^
I'm sure MSU kicked the tires around him but my guess this was a bit of an agent "offering" MSU a chance to make an offer and when they passed he got to crow about it.
This does make me wonder even more about the claims made here that UM went "cheap" with Marrow when looking to replace Partridge. Just seems more unilateral on his part than both sides legitimately entering into negotiations.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:24 PM ^
I thought UM went after Clinksdale to replace Partridge, not Marrow.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:27 PM ^
It wasn’t Marrow. This year it was UK’s D-backs coach (blanking on the name) who actually covers Michigan as one of his territories. Claim is that they were unable to offer him big bucks because they were offering Campanile most of that “extra” money to keep him on staff. Had they known he was leaving there would have been $$ to pay the UK guy.
Marrow WAS the guy that Michigan looked into a few years ago before he decided to stay at UK with a raise. Whether it is true or sour grapes the narrative now (Sam Webb etc.) is that M never actually offered him and the whole thing was more driven by Marrow and his agent to get a bump.
As for MSU - apparently Tucker has a history with Marrow so I would not doubt they went after him hard. I think MSU may have dodged a bullet somewhat - recruiting IS very important but for a reported $1.2M ——- #1 you would think he’d be more than a TE coach (I know “associate HC” also) if he was any good as an actual coach and #2 Marrow has done well recruiting MSU level guys in Ohio but the guy M looked at this cycle actually was better at landing the higher end talent.
February 15th, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
Isn't Marrow the coach who starting recruiting for Michigan while he was here for a job interview?
I get that he's been important for UK, but he's got to be the highest paid recruiter in the country. You have to wonder if that recruiting prowess is as high if he moves from one job to another. A good fit for MSU in terms of recruiting the same area and same level players. I'm glad he's not going there, but I'd have mixed feelings about having him on our staff.
Seems like a UK lifer unless Stoops leaves.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:45 PM ^
Sorry but this far Tucker has only proven he can go 5-7.
Now, that might change over time, but I’m not seeing anything amazing about that. Heck, even Dantonio had a better resume.
February 14th, 2020 at 8:57 PM ^
Yes Tucker is a very proven recruiter. He signed the #35 class. Incredible !!!
February 15th, 2020 at 8:44 AM ^
Helluva new coach bump, right there
February 14th, 2020 at 9:08 PM ^
It's just a completely unknown hire as much as anything. Could MSU have found something more proven? Maybe if the entire athletic department wasn't falling apart.
MSU's answer was to throw money at someone with some ability and some experience. A season of coaching at Colorado doesn't tell us a damn thing except he's probably not awful--Colorado is a much tougher place to win right now than people think. McIntyre's 2016 season was like Hoke's 2011--everything went right.
The spectrum is very, very wide with Tucker. Like I said I don't think MSU will become Rutgers or Maryland. But everything else is at least in play. Best guess? He falls into the mid-tier of the Big Ten East behind UM, OSU, and PSU. A lot of 8-5 type seasons.
February 14th, 2020 at 11:05 PM ^
But based on what though??? He’s been trash everywhere he has had a DC or HC position! I don’t get why people think he’s going to magically be a semi decent coach at Sparty?? His ceiling is Bobby Williams and that’s IF he gets decent coordinators.
February 14th, 2020 at 11:42 PM ^
Sorry for the truth to the Sparty that negged me!
February 15th, 2020 at 12:16 AM ^
We live in a Trump environment where a group of people (like sparties) believe anything if you say it three times...
February 15th, 2020 at 12:22 AM ^
You’d think the parents and players would eventually wise up and not believe the shit coaches aare selling them in recruiting, I truly think Harbaugh is up front and honest in his recruiting pitch, for better or worse...as CFB evolves I think it’s for the better
February 14th, 2020 at 10:41 PM ^
Just because he tweeted that he’s staying at Kentucky doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be at MSU by the end of the week
February 15th, 2020 at 5:50 PM ^
Kentucky can pay him just as much money to stay at Kentucky as MSU can pay him to come to East Lansing.
February 14th, 2020 at 10:58 PM ^
Just a glowing review of Tucker!
On January 18, 2013 Tucker was named defensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears.
Following one of the worst defensive seasons in Bears' history in 2013, Tucker was criticized by the media. As a result, the team fired two of Tucker's assistant coaches, linebackers coach Tim Tibesar and defensive line coach Mike Phair. The Bears replaced them with Paul Pasqualoni as defensive line coach and Reggie Herring as linebackers coach.
On January 20, 2015, following another record-setting low defensive season for the Bears, Tucker was replaced by former San Francisco 49ersdefensive coordinator Vic Fangio under new head coach John Fox.
February 14th, 2020 at 11:28 PM ^
Probably going to be a little tough to fill out his staff at this point. Mork did them no favors with the timing of his “retirement.”