Urbz gets in on the camp nix bashing - helpful

Submitted by CLord on

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2016/04/11/osus-meyer-rips-ncaa-camp-ban-unlimited-texting/82897748/

This cannot but help the cause.  Rivalry animosity aside, his is a powerful voice.  The man used to coach at those mid-tier schools so he speaks from experience and knows the damage this will do to their recruiting and scouting efforts.

FauxMo

April 11th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

Because of his celebrity and social media procolivities, I noticed that Sparties have started calling Harbaugh "Hardashian." I gotta admit, that made me laugh. 99% more clever than I thoughts Sparty capable of...

mGrowOld

April 11th, 2016 at 1:51 PM ^

And he should.  He's smart enough to realize that we share a common enemy in the SEC/NCAA/ESPN Axis alliance that has one goal and that is the preservation of the SEC dominance in football.  

In this one particular instance the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Double-D

April 11th, 2016 at 6:19 PM ^

I just think it's his logical opinion. He is not backing up or purposely going after anyone. At least he is shooting straight unlike Dantonio that fuck. Can you imagine the stress a kid is going to have feeling the need to respond to every text a "coach" sends? Talk about intrusive. 30-40 coaches at 5 texts a day. The NCAA is a train wreck.

1VaBlue1

April 11th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^

Was just going to post this.  His comments are spot on.  I don't like the guy one bit, but I can appreciate his talent at coaching and agree that his voice is powerful.  And he just slammed the NCAA on two fronts - the camp ban and the communications deregulation.  Reluctant hand salute to the purveyors of toxic nuts...

/now I'm off to the shower...

SBo

April 11th, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^

Cardale Jones went on a rant about it. Check his twitter. This makes no sense to everyone other than the NCAA (and SEC)

jaydubya

April 11th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^

Except for the fact that Urban was one of the early voices against satellite camps last year once he caught wind that Harbaugh was holding them.  Urban held a couple camps too, but only reluctantly, to keep up with UM.  Now, Urban is simply being opportunistic, pretending to be the champion of satellite camps.  Please.

From last year: http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2015/04/urban_meyer_satellite_camp_flo.html

jaydubya

April 11th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^

He was making the same complaints as the SEC.  And now we're giving him credit for making an about face?

In other words, he came out against the nationwide satellite camps once Harbaugh started doing them, and now he is defending them after the NCAA has issued its ban (and it is the popular stance to take).  It's hypocrisy.

LJ

April 11th, 2016 at 3:42 PM ^

You can correctly say he has the same stance as much of the sec, but I don't see the about face here. He never supported summer swarm type camps, and I don't see any statement here where he supports them. He thinks smaller schools should be able to attend camps of larger schools on the larger schools' campus. That seems like a consistently held position, right or wrong.



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LJ

April 11th, 2016 at 2:15 PM ^

To be fair, nothing urban is saying here supports the idea of major programs being able to set up their own camps off campus. He's just saying smaller schools should be able to participate in the camps of larger schools to recruit talent that will never get an offer from the larger school.



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jaydubya

April 11th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^

The smaller schools can and do participate in the camps of larger schools, even when those camps are located off-campus, such as USF and Michigan working a camp together last summer.  So, Urban's current support of satellite camps does, in fact, reach the off-campus "Summer Swarm"-type camps, and that is what bothers me given his past complaints of the same.

BlueFront89

April 11th, 2016 at 2:07 PM ^

need to create a group consisting of players from every level of competition affected, from high school to NAIA to DIII to DII to DI student athletes (and even NFL players that were "discovered" at these camps), to voice their colllective disagreement with this ruling.  Coaches comments are helpful, but they are looked at with skepticism due to having skin in the game.  The players are the only ones that can escalate this into a real issue that the public gets behind (and then eventually forces the NCAA's hand).   Creating a coordinated grass roots effort by players would be easy for everyone to get behind and it could quickly gain momentum and become a very loud problem that the NCAA would have to address in order to avoid negative publicity. 

Gr1mlock

April 11th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^

You foolishly assume that the NCAA cares even an iota about what the student-athletes want, or honestly about negative publicity.  The only thing that will convince them to change this is if the NCAA figures out how to monetize the camps, or if the SEC comes onboard with them.  

LDNfan

April 11th, 2016 at 2:09 PM ^

Opportunistic move..but good anyway.

Take a look back about a year ago at Meyer's comments when Harbaugh started the Swarm. He said something to the effect of 'not a fan of that...(sat camps)...we think its important to get them on our campus'.

I think he knows this looks good in the eyes of local recruits...sticking up for the kids. 

LSAClassOf2000

April 11th, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^

“I’m not worried about the high-level players because they’re going to find a way to get where they’ve got to get. I’m talking about … there’s a big chunk of players out there that deserve to play major college football. I hope they revisit it.”

Whether you like him or not, he's spot on here even if he's being rather political about his support (which is kind of how Meyer seems to play things). This needs to be revisited  - and reversed - for the sake of a lot of kids who, while talented and deserving, will not get the requisite number of stars and will not get the offers that they might otherwise if coaches from other staffs cannot freely travel to camps to see them and vice versa.

JeepinBen

April 11th, 2016 at 2:26 PM ^

If SEC Coaches need more family time there's a RIGHT way to do it that doesn't hurt the kids*. All you need to do is sincerely, in a tearful press conference realize that you need to get healthy*, take a year working for ESPN, and then get another job and do nothing different except sign a "contract" wtih your family.

*Kids on your team notwithstanding

**Getting healthy means realizing your team is crap and getting out before that hurts your record, allegedly having an affair with a grad student and placating your wife

kehnonymous

April 11th, 2016 at 2:27 PM ^

I'm still amused, if unsurprised, that a plurality of the toolbag commentariat at 11w says that the satellite camp ban is all Harbaugh's fault.  Or "Hairball",  in the parlance of those erudite mouthbreathing sister-fondlers.

MattWantsU

April 11th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

The one line in the article that rubs me the wrong way.  Maybe it's just me being overly sensitive in my love of Harbaugh, but it makes it sound like he's being lazy on the subject.  He's obviously taking a very calculated response to the topic; nobody needs to be reminded what his opinion on it is.

MayOhioEatTurds

April 11th, 2016 at 2:58 PM ^

Board of Directors votes to allow satellite camps at their April 28th vote.  This is fantastic news. 

Harbaugh's quiet politics response--remaining silent and allowing athletes and other coaches to mount the assault--is brilliant.  I imagine it hasn't been easy to bite his tongue the past couple days, but it may yet pay off--

Because now it's not Jim Harbaugh vs. NCAA, it's everybody vs. NCAA.  And that may yet move the needle.