Tweet From Author of Athletic Article
Tweet (or whatever it’s called now) from author of the athletic article advertising for his article. This article is getting a lot of play because it originally said B10 provided “credible evidence” to MSU (now walked back to say B10 has been made aware of credible evidence) and because reference to “vast network” (I welcome my future t-shirt). But this tweet screams hack job/clickbait. I thought the athletic was better than that.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:40 PM ^
In this case, you're also part of the problem adding fuel to the fire.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:41 PM ^
I confess. I recorded these Sparty signs during the 4th quarter of their Rutgers game.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:47 PM ^
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:47 PM ^
NCAA calls MSU = Guilty until proven innocent.
Burn that whole organization to the ground and sow the field with salt.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:49 PM ^
Stated in the immortal comedic voice of Sam Kinison talking to MSU:
"Here ya go MSU, you might be worried right now that Michigan knows your signals. Understandable, yes. Well here's a little tidbit for you that might help you out some...CHANGE YOUR FUCKING SIGNALS!!! AHHHH-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
October 19th, 2023 at 10:53 PM ^
I'm not ready to put BQ in the Rosenberg/Snyder pile just yet. The B1G did put out a statement which didn't seem to help matters much.
Either way, I'm cool with the boys having more motivation to bury Sparty and prove a point that they don't need to cheat to boat race teams.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:16 PM ^
I dunno. He could have added that it wasn't verified. Right? That would mean he is just reporting. This seems like a biased reporting or just looking for clicks. He doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt, when he didn't give one to UM.
October 19th, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^
The NCAA comprehensively forgot their time in grade school. If Ryan Day and Greg Schiano are the source of the evidence, this has a strong scent of "He Who Smelt It, Dealt It"
October 19th, 2023 at 10:57 PM ^
I think the Schiano bit can be put to bed. Seems likely he was just frustrated with the refs. Day, on the other hand, who knows. But I doubt he hired a PI to track Michigan agents.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^
"Forewarn"? That makes it sound like we'll have snipers on the rooftops.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:21 PM ^
Sure takes the heat off the msu tunnel incident, doesn't it? Just sayin.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:30 PM ^
Occam’s razor. You are spot on. Nobody is talking about the tunnel incident. Take away this flimsy sign-stealing nonsense and that would be all anyone would be talking about. The B10 prefers that story be buried in the past.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:26 PM ^
Michigan scouts opponent: more at 11
October 20th, 2023 at 10:21 AM ^
also this ... Michigan very good at football. They study their opponents tendencies (which is cheating - right?)
Go Blue!
October 19th, 2023 at 11:27 PM ^
No one ever went broke in the news media by exploiting others misfortune, or manufacturing the misfortune.
October 20th, 2023 at 1:26 AM ^
Except the guy who fucked with Sandy Hook victims and is literally bankrupt and can’t discharge the $1.6B in debt to the families because his tort was willful and intentional…
Unfortunately more of this legal action may be required to get these “journalists” to actually practice journalism
October 20th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
And yet still managed to spend over 70k in entertainment in July alone.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:36 PM ^
Am I the only one that gets more worried the longer we go without a front pager from our fearless leader? I thought we had a pretty quick “this is dumb bullshit” with the nothing(cheese)burger.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:50 PM ^
They have lives. I don't mean to demean your post. But IMO this constant bullshit from whatever entity pointing fingers or yelling at us, at this point, isn't worth dropping family values to write about.
October 20th, 2023 at 12:03 AM ^
I mean, that’s fair. Maybe they’ll have something tomorrow with full details about how/why it’s total BS and didn’t want to throw out a half baked argument. I’ll keep fingers crossed for that. Everything I’ve seen seems to suggest it’s dumb but then again the NCAA rules on virtually everything are dumb.
October 20th, 2023 at 10:34 AM ^
They've got preview content to get up and a podcast to record and are generally pretty busy the day before a game, I wouldn't read into it at all.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
If this is an NCAA investigation of in-person advanced scouting of future opponents, why is it advising other schools of that investigation? That has nothing to do with whether Michigan is engaging in legally permitted sign-stealing without electronic eavesdropping or communication.
On what grounds is that competitive tip-off to not only Michigan State but the remaining schools on Michigan's schedule competitively legitimate? This notice enables them to use any challenge of play-calling or game result to imply cheating. The NCAA case is based on an unsupported allegation advanced by only two sources and yet the entire league is now aware of it along with every other program in the game.
October 20th, 2023 at 10:48 AM ^
If this is an NCAA investigation of in-person advanced scouting of future opponents, why is it advising other schools of that investigation?
They are likely telling those teams that Michigan may know their signs and they might want to change them.
October 19th, 2023 at 11:42 PM ^
I'm going to post this as nauseum since I haven't posted today on any of this because it's all a joke. Real ppl not being fantastic realize this too. But Sparty's statement of "not playing for reasons" should only be pictured next to Vernon Gholston doing the most dangerous thing possible in a football game while using the leverage a facemask presents on top of a player pinned to the ground.
October 20th, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
“Tom” Gholston
October 20th, 2023 at 12:05 AM ^
I thought UM was giving up a few plays early in games and then adjusting to what was working?
That sounds like coaching to me. Maybe other teams should try to adjust.
Or maybe the offense has to many different run variations and opposing coaches feel that it's unfair that they were ready for duo and the O have them windback it counter or threw the ball. Maybe the other teams were watching film from last year and wonder why Harbaugh is not just running the ball every play?
During Harbaughs 3 game suspension was he at opponents games? Maybe a random fan was wearing UM gear, so they must be scouting?
Get lost NCAA. Michigan has a phenomenal coaching staff and experienced team.
I can watch on TV and can predict what opposing teams are doing the majority of the time. Plus the fact you have game wreckers on the dline. It doesn't matter what other teams are trying to do. It doesn't work for more then a few plays and they adjust.
October 20th, 2023 at 12:44 AM ^
Some mouthbreather on reddit was trying to convince me that that's a smoking gun that we've been stealing signs before the game, that it takes a little time to figure out which set of signs they're using this game. lol.
October 20th, 2023 at 12:19 AM ^
Well what the fuck can the conference possibly have to tell MSU that Michigan might be cheating, but not credible enough to stop the supposed cheating?
It doesn't make sense that you know something wrong is happening, but can't act on it. You either know enough to stop it, or you don't and shut the fuck up until you know.
October 20th, 2023 at 8:50 AM ^
If the BigTen has in fact taken this to inform other programs and also sent this to the NCAA for action as motivated by the BigTen and NCAA. It is time for Michigan to consider leaving the conference with intention! There is nothing here for Michigan if this is the case by the conference!
October 20th, 2023 at 1:07 AM ^
Michigan is good at something, maybe too good, so let us warn you about how they prepare for you all future opponents …that seems extremely…off.
Why does UM keep eating shit from the Big Ten. Maybe ND is on to something with this independence thing, or we could join the PAC2 and dominate
October 20th, 2023 at 1:24 AM ^
If the coaching staff knew the plays, why didn’t they tell Colson?!
October 20th, 2023 at 1:30 AM ^
Two words: plausible deniability
lol
October 20th, 2023 at 1:36 AM ^
My guess it is OSU who reported us to the B1G. They seem to have deep ties to the B1G and they're he B1G favorites to always win the conference. There must be some reason we have beaten OSU two season in a row. It must be sign stealing. LOL
October 20th, 2023 at 3:50 AM ^
NCAA -- definitely not tactics of a corrupt organization, which selectively applies its powers to further its agenda and its personal grievances.
October 20th, 2023 at 6:34 AM ^
If it's not illegal, why is it referred to as "stealing" signals? Makes it sound more nefarious, I guess. It's just figuring out signals. Or maybe decoding.
October 20th, 2023 at 7:25 AM ^
The Athletic was better than that. But then the NY Times bought them.
October 20th, 2023 at 8:05 AM ^
Sorry, but people complaining about a news article about a legit news story are stupid. The conference says they have evidence and that's what he says. It'd be journalistic malpractice to hide the story and people would go nuts if they found out some State reporter sat on a story like this.
October 20th, 2023 at 8:51 AM ^
They already changed the article. The Athletic no longer claims the conference has evidence.
October 20th, 2023 at 8:34 AM ^
Wow, I've never seen collegiate teams so scared to play football.
October 20th, 2023 at 9:20 AM ^
What the hell? I have heard from anonymous sources plus prominent Ohio state boards and MSU boards that we own all the media in this state. Where is that blue wall?
I’m beginning to question these historically highly accurate and well respected sources.
harumph!
October 20th, 2023 at 9:27 AM ^
Let’s refrain on trashing Quinn, who is a longtime known friend and trusted agent since his days at MLive. He’s one of my favorite writers in the business and without a doubt one of the best. His coverage of Beilein’s teams was always must-read for me
October 20th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^
how does a team at this level NOT change their signs on a weekly basis??