Turns Out Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Was Right

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on August 1st, 2023 at 10:01 PM

You all remember that time back in 2018 when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former hardline president of Iran, randomly tweeted an opinion about Michigan football? Well, it turns out he was right.

What happened is that in September of that year – for whatever damn reason – Mahmoud decided to start tweeting about American sports, so he offered up the opinion that it was unfortunate that Colin Kaepernick wasn’t on an NFL roster. A Michigan fan named Fred Zimmerman responded by saying “We have much bigger problems here. #Michigan is 8-8 in its last 16 games under @CoachJim4UM.”

To which the former president of Iran responded:

Turns out we should have listened to him! The man might be a nut job, but he knows his football. The next time somebody is on vacation, I think he should join the MGoBlog Roundtable.

MgoBlaze

August 2nd, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^

"What are talking about" indeed.

It seems like your definition of politics is "any current events or opinions about them that I don't like," while things you do like should be openly discussed regardless of their societal implications or greater context.

The most political thing that either of us have mentioned is your mention that Ahmadinejad "is a horrible evil tyrant," which is political because it's inherently making a comparison between him and other politicians, and refers to actions that he took while in office.

So since you've opened that door, let's look for a comparison.

-Elected twice in his country between 2000 and 2010, the second election being of dubious veracity

-Far-right religious hardliner who painted any opposition as "evil" and viewed compromise as weakness

-Engaged in nuclear proliferation

-Tortured and executed political prisoners without trials

-Simplistic "them vs. us" fearmongering propaganda

If you look really hard, you might see a comparison there between him and another religious zealot that was in political office in those years. Maybe... one whose party loved to sing songs about "bomb Iran" and referred to Iran as part of the "Axis of Evil?"

So if we're being logically consistent, we should expect your next post to say how Dubya was also "a horrible evil tyrant," since he did all of that and also used 9/11 as an emotional smokescreen to order the invasion of two countries that had nothing to do with it while taking money from the country that actually was most responsible (Saudi Arabia), killing hundreds of thousands of people and further destabilizing the middle east.

For what it's worth, I do not agree that he or anyone else is inherently "evil," because the people that use the terms "good" and "evil" tend to use them not to describe someone's actions or the effects thereof, but agreement or disagreement with their personal beliefs. If Ahmadinejad and Dubya had the same religious beliefs, they'd be using completely different terminology when referring to each other.

People tend to be selfish, stupid, violent, power-hungry, tribal, flawed piles of contradictory habits everywhere, all the time, and labeling them as inherently either "good" or "evil" excuses or dismisses their past and future actions and erases any nuance from them. A "good" person can still be a toxic asshole. An "evil" person can still rescue kittens or help old ladies cross the road.

People should be judged by their actions in context and the effect that those actions have on the world, not by some subjective arbitrary scale made up by people in power thousands of years ago to dehumanize their political opponents and consolidate power.

NittanyFan

August 1st, 2023 at 10:41 PM ^

Michigan beats Iowa to win the B1G title in 2021 ........ and the title of Brian's Monday AM post afterwards?

InshAllah, making near-top-of-the-article reference to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 2018 Tweet.

https://www.mgoblog.com/content/inshallah

Whatever, I thought that was odd but if that, among surely dozens of options, was the particular tact he wanted to take as regards U-M winning the B1G, fair enough.  But I agree with you - Ahmadinejad is really best ignored.  He's not a good guy.

WindyCityBlue

August 1st, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^

Fair enough. Perhaps the word “celebrating” is not the right term. I guess I’m just surprised more people aren't pushing back against someone like him. 
 

As another counter-example. I learned today that Barstool Sports is not allowed to be referenced here, despite the fact that founder, Dave Portnoy, went to Michigan. But evil anti-semites are?

Blue@LSU

August 1st, 2023 at 11:22 PM ^

I see where you're coming from, and I can only speak for myself, obviously. 

For me, it's the sheer scale that makes it so absurdly funny (absurd being the key word here). Portnoy and Musk are both from the US (ok, Musk is from S. African or something) and a mention of UM wouldn't be so out of the ordinary. Neither were the leader of a country that is involved in a bitter rivalry with the USA. For Ahmadinejad, It's so fucking odd that it's hilarious.

To address your counter-example, I'm sure it wouldn't stand if people were posting recruiting rumors or similar from Mahmoud's twitter account.

SalvatoreQuattro

August 1st, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^

Yes. Although I suppose you could call it Judeophobia like we do Islamophobia or Christophobia.

Muslims would have inherited it from contact with Christians who in turn brought it to Europe.

The Roman Empire is so central to modern European civilizations in so many ways and for good and bad. We focus on Rome’s great leaders and intellectuals, but rarely do we think about how so much of our institutions and culture tie back to Rome. To have such influence 1500 years after it’s collapse(not counting Byzantines) is remarkable.

Anyways, I digress.

SalvatoreQuattro

August 2nd, 2023 at 12:06 PM ^

Poland acquired a large Jewish population(largest in Europe in 1939) due to a tolerant policy towards Jews in the 1700’s especially in comparison to Russians who continuously persecuted Jews. Waves of Russian Jews fled to Poland in the 1700’s to flee pograms. Not unlike what we see in Palestine in the 20th century.

The result was an evaporation of tolerance towards Jews(Again, like we see in the Levant). Jews would be persecuted by various Polish governments and ethnic Poles for the next century until The Holocaust. Tolerance towards Jews, both in the Levant and Eastern Europe, existed only when Jews numbers remain relatively stable. Once the numbers began to rise so did hostility toward Jews.

There were no truly “safe space” for Jews to flee to up until the creation of Israel. Tolerance of Jews was always precarious no matter the region or regime. It could and often did change whenever Jewish migration to said area increased or there was a change in leadership at the top of government.

Jews and Palestinians both have in common a history of being brutalized. Palestinians haven’t had control of their homeland since before Medieval times. They now live under a harsh occupation by a people they see as colonizers. It’s a deeply sad and infuriating never ending tragedy that is the direct consequence of centuries of Christian and  Muslim imperialism, colonialism, and antisemitism.

RedRum

August 2nd, 2023 at 5:23 AM ^

He debated Lee Bollinger at Harvard, scratch that Columbia. (Mr. not leaving UM sure did interview a lot.). (Larry Summers got the Harvard gig over Bollinger: constellation prize: Columbia. Don’t know why I’m still bitter about that. Oh well)

BlueMk1690

August 2nd, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^

You know, I have some doubts that's really Mahmoud. Doesn't really sound like his 'voice if you know what I mean? The Mahmoud I've come across wouldn't talk like that.