Super League Might Be Disbanding
The Super League, recently proposed league of 20 teams, that would represent the "best of European soccer seems to be folding. Great to see public backlash actually meaning something.
Please excuse the butchered punctuation. Rushed this post.
I'm gonna take cuts and say...
TOO SOON!!!! I meant that for the league, lol.
April 21st, 2021 at 10:51 AM ^
Did anyone check on Ted Lasso's opinion?
Ah, the old premature punctuation...
But... if the Super League disbands, who will save Earth from the next catastrophe?
April 20th, 2021 at 11:59 PM ^
Please excuse the SCIENCE that all you fucking assholes keep referring to except you refuse to FOLLOW the actual science like our fucking government.
Masks DON'T help with Coronavirus you stupid petty fucking morons.
You (and our government) say follow the science except when it doesn't fit your socialist narrative you fucks.
Fuck you too RobF and your left-leaning liberal hypocritical moderation and Ace with your homophobic bullshit you get away with while banning XM.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
Please ban me again. This is probably my 10th account you pussies. Your lack of understanding of how to block people from creating new accounts is hilarious.
#WDLives
#XMLivesMatter
You are unhinged, ignorant and hateful. No wonder you have to keep coming back here - hard to imagine anyone being able to deal with you in real life.
You seem very upset. When I am upset, I meditate a bit and it gets me back to my happy place. I cannot recommend it enough. Personally, I'm a big fan of mantra meditation.
As an aside, I am entertained by your implied equivalency of mask policies with socialism. Thank you for the humour on what has otherwise been a very serious and somber day.
Your "source" has been discredited, Mudderwoof.
So to quickly address the issues of your article, the fact that it explicitly states its a hypothesis is a problem from the beginning. It directly implies that it hasn’t been researched, tested, or been proven correct. It’s simply an idea someone has. It isn’t science and it isn’t proof.
The lack of understanding of viruses and how they travel is another issue, as the virus being smaller than the mask threads is completely irrelevant. Viruses tend to travel on respiratory droplets. They don’t float in the air on their own, they require a vessel. Masks do in fact, as your article acknowledges, restrict the inflow and outflow of your breathing. Which directly shows that they DO in fact limit the spread of the virus. Test it out, put your mask on and try to blow out a candle. Can’t do it? Then it’s effective in limiting the spread by virtue of limiting the amount and distance your respiratory droplets are traveling. Meaning it limits the distance and amount of the virus that gets spread into the air.
You anti-maskers seem to be obsessed with the efficiency of masks. It doesn’t have to be 100% effective to be effective. It’s PART of a solution. You still have to do other things to stay safe. Think of it like a seatbelt. Seat belts DO help save lives in the event of a car accident. That doesn’t mean it’s 100% going to save your life. It doesn’t mean if you drive at excessive speeds or drive head on into traffic that you won’t be seriously injured or die. We do a LOT of things as a society that aren’t 100% effective, but do have an impact. It isn’t all or nothing. Wearing a mask is simply another tool to HELP limit the spread. It won’t do it on its own, but there’s nothing that will do that.
As to the rest of your post, I’m not sure why they would WANT to block idiot trolls like yourself from creating accounts. It takes them maybe 5 seconds to block your new account, while you keep paying them money to make a new one. Sounds like your own “lack of understanding” is lining their pockets. By all means, spend more money creating another account to post something dumb that will get your fake account nuked within seconds. You’re REALLY showing them
April 21st, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
Interesting thoughts JohnnyH. I have not read the article cited above.
But to expand upon respiratory science and viral science a bit:
Airflow is not the only factor in the spread of a contact/droplet based disease. The degree of laminar flow in and out of your airways determines how many particles deposit onto your respiratory tissues, and upon which of the membranes they deposit (large airways/small airways.) Have you ever noticed how many of your viral illnesses start in your nasopharynx? (Think turbinates.) Surgical masks were designed with this in mind: the pleats are intended to improve laminar flow. Theoretically, wearing a mask which disrupts laminar flow (all masks) will increase particle deposition, and lead to increased innoculant loads (unless mask is also behaving as a filter, such as N95s.) The physiologic location and size of inoculation are classically considered major factors of determining disease and severity. Nebulized medications are an example of this - engineered particle sizes to deposit deep in lung tissue. Air chambers on inhalers are another example of this - improve laminar inhalation to deposit engineered particles to deposit where intended.
The historic use of masks in public health, to be worn by sick people with airborne diseases, is predicated on the mask becoming rapidly moistened by the masked person's breath, and with nonlaminar flow created at same time, would lead to sequestration of more of the particulates near their face (as opposed to the room's air, that the rest of us breathe.) Of note, increased humidity is also considered important for increasing/maintaining the particulate size of respiratory droplets and shortening the time they can spend suspended in air (environmental humidity would play a larger role in this for the particulates making it past the mask - ie viral illnesses and TB increasing prevalence in winter weather: dry air = smaller respiratory droplets) thereby decreasing total concentration of respiratory droplets in an enclosed space. These factors are why surgical masks are rated for 10-15 minutes; if not changed between each patient, they theoretically place the person wearing the mask at increased danger. (N95 without a vent is rated to protect the mask wearer for 8 hours; N95 with a vent extends life of mask to 40 hours.) This would also be why widely distributing a tool across a populace has been ineffective - people treat their own mask as if it is some sort of sterile cloth that they can handle without care (touch it and then not wash hands before rummaging through the fresh produce; lay it on public tables; etc.) as opposed to treating it like they would their underwear. It is debatable as to which is more dirty: your mask or your underwear. Watching people's behavior with masks has been quite disgusting! Contemplate a second thought, which is that while reducing particulates from a sick person, it is concentrating those particulates in the mask, and if touched in a careless manner will lead to greater inoculant loads deposited onto a surface... so maybe a "partially effective measure" should instead be viewed more like a power tool: train the user and great things can happen, hand it to a child and hands or walls will be lost.
The fact that you’ve created ten accounts to spam pollute a blog you clearly dislike is “hilarious”.
Hilariously obsessive. Get a life.
Cheers.
April 21st, 2021 at 11:39 AM ^
Doesn't it now cost like $5 every time you sign up for an account? Nothing like dropping $50 to the site just to 'Troll'. dum-dum
Triggered loser.
April 21st, 2021 at 10:54 AM ^
Wait but I thought you were never coming back and making other accounts. What happened to that? We liked that plan.
April 21st, 2021 at 11:20 PM ^
This reads like a parody of a right-wind crank letter. A guy claiming science says masks don’t matter.
Well that did not take long.
This thing was spearheaded by Real Madrid and the American owners of Man U and Liverpool. The Glazers and John Henry managed to become a living embodiment of American wealth as greedy and avaricious. Totally clueless as to the meaning of their teams to the fans and communities. Ignorant of history. They remind me of:
Mr. Creosote. A caricature of a caricature.
The funniest thing is if the NFL's big clubs like the Cowboys, Packers, Steelers, and Pats tried something like this, Glazer and Kroencke would cry foul for their NFL teams with much smaller fan bases in the Bucs and Rams
This was so obviously a negotiation tactic I was surprised it was news.
That's good news.
Chelsea still sucks, though.
Isn't Fulham in danger of being relegated this season?
90+% per 538. They took forever to put together a better roster during the first transfer window and dug themselves a huge hole through the first 6 games, which should have been winnable. They've played a lot better since, but really needed to bring in more goal scoring during the January window and didn't do enough there either. With the combination of covid making everybody thinner for stretches and the compressed offseason, it was a really, really bad year to be the playoff promoted team.
Unfortunately, a huge chunk of the 1st team is in on loan and won't stick around, so they're looking at a rebuild next year and likely won't be back up for a while.
Curious how well your engagement holds up for a team that is up and down so much. I'm a Spurs fan and while it's great to be near the top of the league, it is hard to stay engaged sometimes when you know they can't hold a second half lead and are not really a threat to win anything or be relegated.
There's a pretty good podcast (Fulhamish) and some good twitter follows that help me stay up to date on what's going on. In some ways they're more interesting in the Championship because a) it's nice to win and b) I enjoy learning a little bit about all the smaller cities with teams in England. In the Premiership it's more like 'which London neighborhood are they in this week?'
The irony of this question on this blog is thick.
Obligatory
wicked burn
on the one hand, daEee SoKkUrrr
on the other hand, this is still funny
All hail our UEFA and FIFA overlords. The good and totally not corrupt guys won!
lol
Sure, UEFA and FIFA are super corrupt. But so are the owners of most of the clubs that tried to break away. More than a little corruption on the parts of the players and agents, as well. As they do whatever they can to avoid taxation of their plentiful salaries. They're all corrupt. It's turtles all the way down.
From a corruption standpoint this was pretty much a Spiderman vs. Spiderman thing. But the Super League was going to turn 130 years of open league competition on its head and for that reason it needed to be stopped.
They should have made it open and kicked UEFA out.
Why are so many teams corrupt? They have the power to essentially bribe UEFA. With 15 teams it would have been less autocratic at least.
Yes, because why turn a corrupt thing on its head...
you must work for the NCAA
You may be accustomed to the closed nature of North American sports leagues and think that’s just how sports should be run. From a business standpoint the North American model does work well.
But from a sporting standpoint it sucks. You end up with franchises like the Lions who can be terrible forever. In Europe, it is possible to found an amateur club, and, with good enough results, climb the ladder and eventually become pro. On the flip side, you can’t be terrible or you go down. There is no reward for finishing last, only relegation. Where you are on the ladder depends on your results on the field.
This would be the end of that. These teams would have been permanently excluded from any danger of relegation.
What’s more, they also would have been removed from playing a lot of their century-old rivals in their own countries. Picture what happened in college hockey with the Big Ten conference gutting the CCHA, only multiplied by a factor of 10.
These teams were not proposing to withdraw from their national leagues and cup competitions. The super league was envisioned as a replacement for the Champions League. Just like the teams in the champions leagues do now, they still would have participated in all of their regular la liga, premier league, league un and bundesliga fixtures. They just wouldn't have been in danger of missing out on the Champions League or Europa League if they had a shitty year in their national league, the way they are now.
April 22nd, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^
So basically "we don't like missing out on the money and prestige of the champions league when we put together a trash team so we're just going to make it impossible for us to miss it, while at the same time screwing over the smaller, historically successful clubs from smaller leagues like Ajax by destroying the champions league altogether."
FIFA/UEFA are corrupt, but their version of corruption is more about spreading around the wealth: expanding the WC from 32 to 48 teams, and the Euro from 16 to 24 teams, letting 4th-place teams make Champions League, etc. That’s annoying in that it waters down these competitions and leads to situations like Qatar hosting the WC in December, but the fundamental nature of them isn’t really changed.
This was a more cynical thing: a few rich clubs making their own closed competition and saying “the hell with everyone else.” They know even their own local, ticket-buying fans don't want this. The point of the Super League is to seduce casual viewers on the other side of the planet with super sexy matchups. Man Utd vs Real would be fun, so why not do it four times a year, every year!
The UCL is essentially closed, in that half the teams know they have basically no shot.
The issue is the matches that fans in general want to see is between the big clubs. Or it was until this, now it's going to be just more PSG vs. Croatian Suckage FC instead of Tottenham vs. Dortmund and Man City vs. Barca for example.
Better matches means fewer teams, and now it's going to be 36 with 24 making the knockout stage.
This is the argument that made the Nations League the great sporting spectacle it is today.
lol probably like .1% of the money in the nations league. We've seen enough conference realignment to know that $$$ rules until you piss off your customers too much.
I think you missed the point here. Fans in general...European soccer fans I mean...do NOT want to just watch an endless series of matches between a handful of big clubs. They've made that perfectly clear in the last 24 hours. The great yawn that welcomed the Nations League was a foretaste.
April 21st, 2021 at 12:04 AM ^
When you have PSG (!) as the voice of reason calling you out for your naked greed, you done screwed up.
That was self-serving. Their management probably spent some time reading the message boards prior to the announcement and advised the owners not to make the jump in order to save face.
Of course it was self-serving. The entire PSG project is about sportswashing for the Qatar government and its awful human rights record.
But the 12 "Super League" clubs were so dumb with this own goal that they actually make the Qataris look good now.
I'm not well versed in the details of European football club ownership, but I believe that PSG's management has a significant stake in beIN Sports, which holds broadcast rights to Ligue 1, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, the European Football Championship, and the Champions League. I am certain that PSG's opposition to ESL come from altruism and an interest in the global health of international football, not the desire to smother a potential broadcast competitor in the crib.
PSG and beIN have the same Chairman. He's also a minister in the Qatari gov't. They're not subtle about it.
Which is why they know to block the sale of Newcastle to the Saudi public investment fund, which would essentially be the same thing. Maaaan, I want that sale to go through....
Also, eat it Fulham. Enjoy the Championship! (sorry)