Spring break camp ban is passed by SEC puppet entity NCAA
https://twitter.com/danwolken/status/822475747331710977
January 20th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
Nature Obsrvation Class in Maui/Sydney with rented land.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
Yes, it should. I'm in the midst of my MBA at Xavier in Cincinnati. They have locations (handful of rooms in office buildings) in KY and about 30 minutes N where I attend. It all counts as part of their campus. I don't know why opening a UofM Fla location wouldn't be considered a part of the University.
ooohh oooh ooh what about online programs?!? Then campus is everywhere!
January 20th, 2017 at 12:04 PM ^
Xavier is a private school and Michigan is a public university paid for/ in part by the tax payers of Michigan. That might cause some issues.
January 20th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^
has a campus just down the street in Northern Virginia.
January 20th, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^
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January 20th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
Just opened up a satilite campus in Miami. I'm sure he has some property that's usable for football.
Or can they all have online classes ala Johnny Football and study online because the campus is anywhere where there's a wifi connection.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
Nope, this excludes the winter training trip for women's rowing. Per the actual proposal
To specify that an off-campus practice (other than practice at an institution's regularly used off-campus practice facilities and other than the winter-training trip in women's rowing) unrelated to an away-from-home competition shall be prohibited during an institutional vacation period outside the institution's championship playing season.
Here's a link if anybody wants to read the full proposal. Link It's on page 19
January 20th, 2017 at 12:39 PM ^
(other than practice at an institution's regularly used off campus practice facilities . .
What is Michigan's regularly used off-campus practice facility?
I think it should be Michigans gigantic new Florida Athletic/Academic training center!
You know, the one that students athletes use yearly (regularly) that has state of the art training facilities, an academic center, used by all michigan teams when traveling in the south.
Oh, did I forget to mention that whenever it's not currently in use it's free to any high school to use (make sure you schedule in advance!)
January 20th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
I believe he already has a football facility in Miami, no? The team uses it so regularly they just were there for the Orange Bowl.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
We typically have one of the earliest Spring Breaks, well before finals, so what if we held the practices a week before or after Spring Break? Let the kids have their break and then spend practice and study hall on the beach?
January 20th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
Well the week before is typically midterm week for many classes, so for sure not then. Also it would fly in the face of any rhetoric from the staff and administration that the program is focused on its players' academics if they missed a week of classes for a practice trip.
January 20th, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
I'd say do it. Maybe make it only a weekend trip. At this point, anything Harbaugh does will get attacked, so we might as well forget about the perception game.
January 20th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^
Technically the weekend is not part of Spring Break anyway. This could really be done over any weekend during Spring Practices.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
It was passed 58-22. SEC programs may have been the most vocal about it, but this was clearly unpopular around other conferences as well
January 20th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 11:27 AM ^
Explain the satellite camp ban then that literally took the government scaring them away to reverse it.
It's not all about us but it's not not about us.
Those "other" voices were likely the ACC and Pac12.
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January 20th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
Man, you sure like making grand statements without any thought don't you?
There's 80 voters, and there's only 65 Power Five teams, so we can't just assume this is a Power 5 thing.
Second, assuming that every SEC school, as well as every PAC and ACC school* voted against this, that's only 41 schools. So that's still 17 other schools that voted against this, even adding in the Big 12 schools leaves 4 schools that voted against it. Talk about an anti-Michigan SEC conspiracy all you want, but this was clearly very unpopular among Athletic Directors everywhere
*I feel like that's a big if too. Why would Boston College, or Pitt, or Washington State or Oregon State be against warm-weather practicing?
January 20th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
How many others would be willing to do this? They don't want to and they don't want people who do to get an advantage, so they're gonna get their cake and get to eat it, too.
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January 20th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
How do you know that? Have you sat in on these meetings? Heard why these athletic directors are for or against it? Or are you just mouthing off about some anti-Michigan conspiracy because it fits into your narrow view?
*hint I think it's the second one*
January 20th, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
Or you just playing contrarian to be a dick as usual?
Hint, I think you are.
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January 20th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^
Since when does not believing in a 58 school anti-Michigan conspiracy makes me a dick?
January 20th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^
Well shit.
Luckily I'm in Central Time right now, so I've still got 40 minutes to go
January 20th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
That is wd's default defense. Deflect, deflect, deflect. He doesn't have the intellectual capacity, or knowledge to do anything else. He seems to be getting worse all the time.
It's the old "I know you are but what am I?" defense. Somehow... there are people here that continually buy it. There are always more that don't, but it's still fucking dumb. Loud noises rule the day. Idiocracy in action.
January 20th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^
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January 20th, 2017 at 2:12 PM ^
The only reason give is protect the children. We know that is a joke.
So seriously... z
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January 20th, 2017 at 6:09 PM ^
@Lionsfan - what other reason could it possibly be? You have 3 viable reasons not to like this:
1. You're a warm weather school who doesn't want other schools (like Michigan) coming to stake out your protected turf.
2. You're a poorer program who can't afford to do this so you don't want your richer neighbor to do it.
3. You don't like the idea of kids not being able to go on vacation however they please and since you're not going to do this, you don't want anyone else doing it just in case it gives them an advantage.
4. ????
All of those are consistent with WD's hypothesis - they don't want US to do it.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
The SEC, who wants to build a wall and the NCAA is going to pay for it.
And the shitty schools who can't/won't spend their revenue money on the students-athletes.
That's it.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^
but I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume many of the 'yeas' were from the Big 10, MAC, and northern Pac 12/ACC schools, and the 'nays' were SEC, ACC, Sun Belt, and Big 12 schools
January 20th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
Who voted for besides Michigan?
OSU, PSU maybe Maryland?
January 20th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
January 20th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
Innovating with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
I'd love to see them work out a plan to "buy" the land at a high school in Florida/California/Texas/etc., use it for spring break, and then "sell" it back to the school at a vastly reduced rate. That way, everyone wins.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
Poke the bear (UM) ?
If Manuel has any balls - which I question after the handling of the OSU officiating travesty - we would start scoping out sites across the states you mentioned (next door to pipeline high schools) as well as Hawaii and some other exotic destination. Our endowment war chest is unmatched, time to put our alumni dollars to good use.
UM - Honolulo ; check
UM - Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale, Tallahassee ; check
UM - Dallas, Houston, Austin ; check
UM - Anaheim, San Fran ; check
etc
etc
etc
January 20th, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
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January 20th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^
Forever and always.
January 20th, 2017 at 1:27 PM ^
no, but Las Vegas is.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:27 AM ^
A torrent of complaints from other sports will be streaming in shortly. So will the softball team have to fly back to Ann Arbor to conduct any practice sessions between their first 23 games?
I'm baffled by how biased and ridiculous the NCAA is. Then I remember everything else that has happened recently in this country and just shake my head.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
The restriction is on practices during vacation periods outside of the regular season.
The first 23 games of softball are obviously during their season, so this wouldn't apply.
January 20th, 2017 at 12:14 PM ^
*Edit. I vastly overrated how big fall ball is. You're correct, the first 23 games will not be affected
January 20th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
Protecting children from the evils of school sponsored vacations. They also ensure that athletes are well compensated monetarily for their efforts while in "school".
SEC - Where the kids come first
January 20th, 2017 at 11:29 AM ^
A property could easily be outfitted with virtual classrooms where the players can attend lectures live via video conference.
The team could hold spring ball while classes are happening. Then they don't even have to miss any school really.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
Dozens upon dozens. It would never work.
January 20th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
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January 20th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
you think the university is going to try to put dozens of lectures online for a week of class so the sports teams can go be in Florida? What a huge amount of work for nothing
January 20th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
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