Snowflake Thread: Coaching Vs. Air Force

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This will be the repository for your thoughts and hot takes on the overall coaching in our game against Air Force.

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war-dawg69

September 16th, 2017 at 6:33 PM ^

A coach who actually gets after his players. Drevno, Hamilton and Frey just want to love on there soft ass linemann. I will gauranteee kinnel got reamed and will hear a lot more for his fuck up from both Brown and Zordich.  I am so sick of having a shit offense. Weak QB. Weak O-line. Weak receivers. Weak running backs....two good and one who fumbles when barely hit. There is zero accountability for or from anyone on this side of the ball. Harbaugh your offense really really sucks and you sir are a complete fail to half of your football team and staff who gets it. Either we really are not that talented on the offensive side of the ball or the coaching of said players is completely inept and that is no exageration. One complete soft weak shit show. Just like last year. If we had a competent offense last year we win the big ten easy and maybe a national championship. It starts with the coach and the QB. The offense should apologize to the defense after every  game this year. One more thing, Wisconsin's schedule is a complete joke and they will lose once again in the playoffs. I hope they lose by sixty four this time. Just thinking Quinn Nordin will lead the nation in scoring.

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taistreetsmyhero

September 16th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

think the biggest problem is the coaching. playcalling is just not good. oline is also bad. wr's don't make plays.

yes, speight doesn't make a lot of plays that i'd hope a starting michigan qb would make, but, the coaching just needs to get better. period.

for being a offensive coach, this offense in year 3 of the harbaugh era is a joke. i still think harbaugh is a good coach, but we need to do something. drevno probably has to go.

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MGrether

September 16th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

We have 2 young starters on the online. 3 of these oline could not beat out our pathetic oline last year. We have almost all brand new WRs. This is not madden football - inserting a new player, they do not know all the play book. It takes time, practice and experience.

Now, that is not to say the coaches don't share some of the blame.... But you can only run the plays your players know.

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Steeveebr

September 16th, 2017 at 7:03 PM ^

I don't think that's a fair assessment at all.  Based on what I've seen through 3 games he's rushed on 90 % of pass plays and more than 10 % of his decisions are good ones.  Our offensive line is very bad this year, we knew it was going to be.

- We have no success running up the middle.

- Speight is rushed way too often and forced out of the pocket.

- Our only reliable success so far this season is coming on quick routes to the outside, rushes to the left / outside of the line and maybe the occassional play action if the defense actually bites on the run and isn't blitzing the right side of our line.

 

It's hard for playcalling to cover up how bad the right and inside of our offensive line is playing.  Still Drevno's responsibility in the end.

 

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Monocle Smile

September 16th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

Is it the playcalling or is it OL not executing and Speight not following the play design? We could have wide open dudes downfield, but if Speight checks down to a baby seal 2 yard out, the play call looks bad.

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Ghost of Fritz…

September 16th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

Speight had a handful of derp passes, and the OL is 'developing.'

But the offensive play calling was atrocious.  Kept trying to do the one thing AF had committed to stopping--run between the tackles. 

And then the pass calls were mostlly also terrible. 

Example:  Spegiht is struggleing.  So lets ask him to hit a fade on 3rd and goal, instead of some sort of rub route or TE in the back of the endzone. 

Example:  Lets run inside twice for 2 yards and give Spegiuht 3rd and 8.

I could go on. 

 

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Zarniwoop

September 16th, 2017 at 5:04 PM ^

This I agree with.

BUT.

With Speights terrible problem throwing off his back foot, I feel like the coaches are trying to avoid interceptions by throwing fade after fade.

A fade call is essentially your offensive coordinator saying "you're so awesome I believe you can throw this with regularity", or "you're so terrible, I want to minimize our turnover risk".

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HollywoodHokeHogan

September 16th, 2017 at 11:24 PM ^

I think the coaches are just trying to avoid another Speight induced disaster. Nobody thinks he throws a good fade, but he won't gift the opposition six points that way. Almost all the passing plays were "safe" reads, though dipshit still threw one right into DB. Look, the OL isn't great but I think the most important position on the field is killing the offense.

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DualThreat

September 16th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

But I was thinking it before he got injured.

Issac is "Captain Almost".  I mean, every play the guy runs for two years now includes some sort of "almost". 

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Cranky Dave

September 16th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Know what to say about Harbaugh Drevno and Pep. I don't now enough to comment on play calling but the mistakes on offense and game management left a lot to be desired today

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vdiddy24

September 16th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Think we all fell for the narrative that Pep was going to be an upgrade, but for whatever reason the playcalling has regressed.  Maybe he's taking longer to assert himself with the playcalling.

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Magnum P.I.

September 16th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

Staff really needs to revisit every position on offense (except the left side of the OL). They always say it's an open competition every week, but it truly needs to be at all positions this week, apart from the left side of the OL.

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bronxblue

September 16th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^

The playcalling, especially in the redzone, was really poor. Running sweeps, WR screens without enough blocking, etc. Everyone is going to blame Speight for all the same dumb fucking reasons as ever, but this staff has not looked good offensively for two straight games now.

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The Claw

September 16th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^

How is it there was only 1 ball to Gentry, which was a very big gain? How are they not throwing it to a TE in the red zone?

Play calling, play calling, play calling.

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bamf16

September 16th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^

With the way the linebackers were jumping into run defense as quickly as they were, I was screaming for some couple quick hitters to tight ends down the seam. But no, continue to run it into the eight-man front on 1st & 10 over and over and over again.

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grumbler

September 16th, 2017 at 7:48 PM ^

That's the whole thing about tight ends - they don't need a lot of time to get into their routes.

I can understand keeping a tight end in to help block on the right side of the line, but the left side doesn't need the help and we have great receiving tight ends.  Make those LBs face a dilemma without a good answer!

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PopeLando

September 16th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^

Maybe some MGoCoach can help me out: What in the hell are the coaches seeing that makes it appear as if running straight into the middle of a DL (a DL clearly intent on stopping inside runs) is a good idea?? That's 3 straight games of it. I do not understand.

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OneBadMutha

September 16th, 2017 at 3:25 PM ^

This entire offense is dependent on timing. On having a QB who can hit receivers in stride. A passing game that sets up the run game. This offense has success with a good QB. Not so much with a bad one. Too much is made of the offensive playcalling on game day. My concern is why Speight still struggles to find his 2nd option, has awful footwork and his timing is way off. Coaching issues are between games more so than in game. QB has regressed.

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alf

September 16th, 2017 at 5:13 PM ^

Troubling thing is, the red zone numbers. You can as a play caller adjust your game plan based on what the defense is doing against you. Stacking the box, spread it out go shot gun throw quick timing passes then go back to your manball playbook. Play call them out of their game plan.

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