Regents Green Light UCLA to Big Ten

Submitted by skegemogpoint on December 14th, 2022 at 7:25 PM

UCLA will be required to make annual payment to Cal in $2-5 million range.  

Venom7541

December 15th, 2022 at 9:19 AM ^

I don't think their GDP would remain top 5 if they were their own country. Benefitting from being in the US allows them to be fiscally irresponsible and exceptionally high taxed. As a separate country, their movie industry would fully move to Georgia and possibly Florida. Tech companies have already started locating in Texas and once it became more and more clear that the remaining ones would need a tax haven, as California would keep raising taxes, the rest would start moving to Texas and Tennessee. The state is already losing people in droves, the increase in taxes that California would do to try to maintain its spending would push out that last ones that could leave. 

Broken Brilliance

December 14th, 2022 at 7:47 PM ^

Hope whatever greedy ass TV execs and conference commisioners decided we need to eliminate the regional aspects and century old rivalries of college football are haunted this Christmas by three terrifying furry mascots...Big Al from Bama, Oski from Cal, and Purdue Pete.

NittanyFan

December 14th, 2022 at 7:54 PM ^

Vote to "green light" was 11-5.  It was not unanimous.

The Berkeley subsidy is ridiculous IMO - if their philosophy is "the well off athletic programs must help subsidize the less well off athletics programs", that's fine, but then shouldn't UC-Davis, UCSB, UC-Riverside etc now also be in line for extra $$$?  I guess that's a question for the UC Regents to deal with.

UCLA also has to ensure that their new schedules are "of a comparable burden" in terms of travel, as if they stayed in the Pac-12.  I'd presume their future OOC schedules will involve less road games (for football, at least, they already played zero OOC road games in 2022).

FrankMurphy

December 14th, 2022 at 8:22 PM ^

The reasoning behind the subsidy requirement is that this move will have an adverse financial impact on UC-Berkeley because it hurts the Pac-12, which will diminish the revenue that Cal receives from the Pac-12. The other UCs are not Pac-12 members so UCLA's move has no effect on them.

Having said that, Cal is currently saddled with a massive amount of debt from its financially disastrous stadium renovation (made worse by the fact that UC-Berkeley just plain sucks at managing money for some reason), so UCLA and USC's decision to leave the Pac-12 could not have come at a worse time for Cal. The subsidy is a bailout of sorts.

jimmyshi03

December 14th, 2022 at 8:42 PM ^

They’re in the same university system, the analogy would be that if UM was somehow in the same conference as UM-Dearborn and left, they’d pay a tax for it, and I understand that. It’s also not unique to California (which has two systems, UC and Cal State), Arizona has the same system (perhaps why ASU or U of A never seem to run roughshod over the over for too long), as does Nevada (which went so far as to split the law school and Med School between the two campuses).

Swayze Howell Sheen

December 14th, 2022 at 8:01 PM ^

I would welcome Cal, Stanford, Washington, and Oregon to the Big Ten. And maybe one more western team, like Colorado? This would allow Big Ten East, Central, West, with 21 total teams. It would be weird.

FrankMurphy

December 14th, 2022 at 8:31 PM ^

I would love that, but it ain't gonna happen. The B1G wants USC and UCLA for one reason and one reason only: the Los Angeles TV market, which is the second-largest TV market in the country. That's why they're willing to look past the geographic absurdity of this move. None of the other Pac-12 schools really move the needle in that regard. You could make a case for Washington and Washington State based on the Seattle market, but they're not nearly as big of a draw as USC and UCLA. Ditto for Arizona and Arizona State as well as Colorado and Utah. Forget about Oregon and Oregon State, Nike money notwithstanding. And no one in the Bay Area gives a shit about Cal or Stanford. Even back when Stanford was winning the Pac-12 and playing in BCS bowls, no one here even seemed to notice, let alone care. I can't even find their games on TV half the time.

 

Amazinblu

December 14th, 2022 at 8:29 PM ^

So - I guess this means the Big 10 will have sixteen teams beginning in 2024.  Correct?

What other desirable media markets have AAU academic institutions near them?  

This isn’t over.  There may be a lull.. But, it will only be a lull…

LSAClassOf2000

December 14th, 2022 at 8:32 PM ^

It sounded like the Regents of the UC system might riot for a time, but if this is the case, then I suppose, to quote Emperor Joseph in "Amadeus" - "Well, there it is then."

Amazinblu

December 15th, 2022 at 7:37 AM ^

Xoda, You would be correct.  It’s not that I dislike water polo - I actually participated in water polo intramurals when I was at Michigan.  I do not follow it closely today.

I hope Cal has a great WP program - which, inferring from your comment, it does.  Hopefully, with a solid, loyal fan base.  I recall Missy Franklin being a swimmer (not WP) at Cal.

I like Cal.  And, would have no problem with Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington being offered a spot in the B1G.  This being said, certain PAC-12 schools have a bit of a challenge filing their stadiums for football games.  IIRC, Cal fits that description - as does UCLA and USC.

Blue Vet

December 14th, 2022 at 10:00 PM ^

The campaign to stop it continued to the end.

A headline I saw yesterday indicated that only 35% of UCLA athletes were in favor the move, which meant

• that 65% disapproved.

• OR that the survey was all UCLA athletes, while football & basketball players favored it more,

• OR that the survey was a determined part of the campaign, and skewed to get the answer opponents of the move wanted.

kehnonymous

December 14th, 2022 at 11:41 PM ^

To be fair, I could understand why Bruin student athletes, especially at non-revenue sports (and UCLA's non-football/basketball teams are generally pretty good IIRC), might not be crazy about going to the Big Ten because it necessarily involves travel halfway across the country and with probably less cushy accommodations than football/basketball as opposed the playing vs the former Pac-12, which probably includes many of their friends.