Rank the Coaching Candidates
I've created a poll where you can rank the coaching candidates in order of desirability. There are a lot on the list so I suggest you just rank down to Yaklich. This will allow us to create a community "Yachlich Line."
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YWQLGB2
Once this has enough data I will post a diary with some results. Feel free to share with other Michigan fans. Maybe we can provide Warde Manuel a pulse of the fan base.
Well done man! Best coaching thread to date.
u(r)m(y)hero !!!
Cool but I stopped after top 5.
Surprised people had Buzz Williams below their Yaklich line. He's a pretty good coach IMO. Not gonna happen as TAMU will throw the money at him to keep him.
For me it was just not liking how he would have to back out on TAMU immediately. I would get over the messiness if I had to.
If it’s a straight desirability test anyone with buzz below yaklich isn’t worth listening to. That’s an indefensible position.
1. Stevens
2. Bennett
3. Donovan
4. Wright
5. Oats
6. Beard
7. White
8. Prohm
9. Howard
10. Jordan
11. Assistants
What dream land are people living in that think Stevens, Wright or Bennett would consider leaving.
They wouldn’t leave for UCLA or IU but they’re gonna leave for us? Come on.
I doubt they’d even leave for Duke Kansas UNC or UK.
Stevens has a top 3 NBA job and speaks highly about coaching there. Wright, east coaster, rebuilt Nova into a powerhouse that will dominate the Big East, a much easier conference relative to the BIG. Only job he would think about would be the Sixers down the street and that’s not happening for at least another year.
Bennett didn’t go to Wisconsin when he had the chance. He’s certainly not leaving now that he’s established UVA as a legit threat to Duke and UNC in the ACC
Donovan or Marshall would be home runs in my opinion.
The question isn't "who is most likely to be Michigan's coach" it's "who would you most want." Who gives a shit about feasibility in that situation
This ranking has nothing to do with probability and everything to do with preference.
If it has nothing to do with feasibility then I’d like to add Coach K, Roy Williams, and Gregg Popovich to my list.
Popovich is the only correct answer.
*whispers* Coach K is Joe Paterno with less hair and fewer scandals. He's fine where he is but literally isn't a coach anymore
Pretty surprising results IMO. I personally had Tony Bennett as #1. Seeing him running fourth right now was not expected. Agree with earlier comment that Buzz Williams should be above Yak. Proven head coach who competed in a brutal ACC. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Everybody above him is a multiple national title winner or Brad Stevens. I think that's fair, though if someone had him above Donovan or Stevens I wouldn't quibble too much.
Agreed. However given how much our fanbase clings to "culture fit", Bennett seems like top choice. He is in Beilein territory with regards to cleanliness, and has outperformed any other ACC coach over the past 5-7 years. Jay Wright may have an additional title, but is facing lower level competition. Bennett is the closest you can get to Beilein of the options listed.
I had Wright #1 over Bennet just because I love Villanovas style of play. Virginia was a close second though
I had Yak like 4th to last
I ranked him third to last simply because he's Dick Bennett's son. (There's also zero chance of him leaving Virginia)
Sorry, but it’s deeply flawed. Unranked candidates go straight to the too of this survey.
Great idea but you need to fix that.
Good point.
I realized that the analysis is flawed at the end, that's why I plan to put together a Diary once we have meaningful data.
I realized there were so many choices that it made sense to reassure people they don't have to rank everyone if they don't want to.
Just assign unranked candidates a value of either "18" for last, or in the case of where someone ranked say 6 candidates and left 7-18 blank, the mean of the unranked is then 12.5 which you could use.
The 12.5 is probably more statistically accurate, but I don't know if the site allows for that type of setup.
This is the first time I've ever made one of these so I'm not sure how to do much with the analysis reporting. I was able to remove the table and just show the chart with point totals. The higher points are better. Unranked people get zero.
If it's not too late, you might consider adding Mark Few at Gonzaga.
He’d be the best possible option out there. He will not leave Spokane. He has built that school to a legitimate powerhouse, and wants a National Championship. He’s earned the right to want that at the program he has built and sustained
I agree he's unlikely to leave, and even if he did I would assume there's questions about the depth of his national recruiting ties v. west coast. I think he's a slightly more realistic option than Jay Wright, Brad Stevens or Tony Bennett. Probably in the grouping with Donovan or Beard, who I would also lump into the "long shot, but not totally out of the question" group, unfortunately.
Buzz would not continue the culture Beilein has created. As a long time resident of Wisconsin, he developed a reputation of the "buzz cut" during his time at Marquette. Questionable recruiting practices of getting rid of unwanted players.
I don’t want Bennett ! He can’t beat Izzo
I don’t want Bennett ! He can’t beat Izzo
Gregg Marshall went to 4 straight tournaments at Winthrop. He then followed a 2 year drought with 3 straight appearances again.
At Wichita St. Marshall missed the tournament his first 4 years. He then made the tournament 7 straight years including a Final Four, a 1 seed as an undefeated regular season team, and another Sweet Sixteen. He missed the tournament this past year after losing 12 players from his roster and 2 assistants, and still had an incredible mid season turnaround and an NIT semi-final berth.
Dude's only 56. If he wanted the job I don't understand how he'd be under the Yak line.
Yeah, that result was astonishing to me. He's below LaVall Jordan as well. Nate Oats is also way underrated in this.
I left Oats low not because of his coaching ability, I agree he'd be a good choice, but because he has already come out and said he has no interest in the Michigan job.
To the 3 persons who had Moses at #1, 2 and 3 respectively: please give up your UM fanhood and never return.
PS. Not really. You are free to choose whomever you like, but please reevaluate your life choices and try to do better from here on out.
When I saw that, my first thought was...
Warde! Quit drinking and go to bed!
I don't understand how Bobby Hurley is not on the list? He turned Buffalo around (took over a 14-20 (7-9) club and instantly went to the Tourney in his only 2 years). Brought in Nate Oats to coach (and learn) under him. Then went to a sliding ASU and after a rough transition has been better ever single year. Yes the Pac10 sucks, but he has risen to #2 in conference. He isn't my first choice, but with names like Moser out there... He may even be slightly above the Yak line.
That's not a terrible idea. Would he be for sure gone though when Coach K finally retires? How old is that dude anyway? Coach K I'm talking.
What would put him ahead of Collins, Amaker, Dawkins, Snyder or Wojo?
success? Wojo is the only one on that list to come close to Hurley's success. And he did it at Marquette. That a bit easier than Buffalo and ASU. But maybe he deserves to be on their too.
Interesting exercise. Hopefully, Warde will take it under consideration if he sees the results. I doubt he will, but we can hope!
I think in the end it will be someone below the home run guys (Stevens, Wright, Donovan) but above the assistants level, e.g. Howard or Marshall. Michigan probably has Moser in that range too, unfortunately.
I think I'd be cool with Marshall.
Greg Marshall is probably one of the best options that's not considered a home run. I'd be fine with it, although Warde better have called everybody above him first.
I put Yak 12th, but that's higher than I ranked Howard. I just don't see it with him.
I have Bennett first. Unlike Donovan and Stevens, he's in college and has been recruiting for the last 4 years. And he has an NCAA title (sorry Stevens) in the last 13 years (sorry Donovan).
I also ranked Buzz higher than a lot of people. I think he's a good coach, he kept Marquette up after Crean left, and he improved at VT every year. Pulling him would be a coup.
Nice list guessing Gregg Marshall is the one, if he wants a change is the guy. Some of those will turn it down because their fine with where their coaching, the guys coaching the NBA aren’t coming, and nobody else on the list will have a final four plus a No. 1 seed in different seasons but Gregg Marshall. And did it at a mid major!
this is really interesting, but not as an actual gauge of who we "should" hire. i maintain that the vast majority of us (myself included) are way less informed about what makes a good hire than we think we are...lots of hires that look great at the time don't work for reasons that we chose to either ignore or couldn't have possibly known (interpersonal dynamics, sex vampires, etc.), and vice-versa. no organization should ever ever ever ever ever make a decision based on polls, particularly if it's a poll of message board idiots (again - myself included).
to me, the interesting part of the poll is the bottom. we hate, hate, hate the idea of porter moser, for lots and lots of reasons. i mean, we're idiots, but we're not stupid, and it's pretty clear that hiring porter moser would be Not Popular, no matter what warde manuel might say at an introductory press conference.
should he listen to us? dear god, no. should he brace himself for a shitstorm, if he hires him?
oh yeah.
When these things come up for various aspects of football, I tell people that if the AD listened to us, we would just be Wake Forest with cooler helmets.
The basketball equivalent? I shudder to think what we would be.
Marshall feels low. Looks very bi-modal, people are either ranking him right around 8 (probably just after the moon-shot guys) or in the last two. Are those people who just didn't bother ranking him and that's where he ends up or do they really think he is that low?
From a winning perspective, I think he's a decent option. He has just struck me as the polar opposite of Beilein and kind of like Izzo with his tooting and hollering on the sideline. Also there was some really bad press about his wife the last few years with being wasted in the stands and yelling at fans and players. I believe she had to be escorted out at the NCAA tournament a few years back. Just not sure that's the kind of people I want at the top of the program. Putting all of that aside, I think he's not a terrible choice in my mind.
I hear Magic Johnson is available.
Rick Pitino
Dan Dakich
John Wooden's corpse
Bill Frieder
Porter Moser.
1. Yaklich/Washington
2. Hefty hefty raise for the assistant
3. Do like Harbaugh or Beilein: Hire the best young offensive coach in the country
Still have money to play with.