Please don't be douchebags

Submitted by I Wrote a 4 Wo… on

We're about to lose a game.

To all who are about to complain about RichRod, please don't be douchebags. It's a game we were supposed to lose.

Maybe I'm out of line or just on my toes because of all of the douchebag comments this year after any loss, and if that's the case then just calm down. But I'm pretty sure people are going to be saying "Harbaugh" a whole bunch after the game and if so, I think you should just sit on something pointy and shut the fuck up.

That being said, Go Blue. Beat the Buckeyes.

 

Edit: Mods, if you feel it necessary to take it off then fine, I'm just sick of the...douchebaggy post-loss talk.

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kurpit

November 20th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^

maybe we didn't see a third string quarterback because, correct me if i'm wrong but, WISCONSIN DIDN'T THROW THE BALL IN THE 4TH QUARTER! they ran straight at us over and over again and still kept pace with out offense.

first off, i will cheer for this team no matter their record or who is the coaching. i'm not one of those idiots booing rich rod when we're down 7. that said, not one big ten game this year has given me reason to think that michigan will return to winning the way they have and should with this coaching staff. i just don't see it.

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shorts

November 20th, 2010 at 3:46 PM ^

We get it. You're pissed about the loss and want Rodriguez fired because "this is Michigan" and "6-17" blah blah blah.

Would Harbaugh be better for the future? I honestly don't know. But Rodriguez is the coach and the de facto offensive coordinator and has put together the best offense in school history, one that's still full of underclassmen. The defense has serious problems, and while I know you'll say "Rodriguez is ultimately responsible," and you're right, the way in which he's responsible is by finding a good defensive coordinator. I'd like to give him a chance to do that and see what this team could do.

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kurpit

November 20th, 2010 at 3:58 PM ^

real question. i'm just curious. how long do you wait?

let's just say we see something similar next year. top tier offense, and bottom tier defense. finish with 7 or 8 wins and not compete for the big ten. what's your call?

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shorts

November 20th, 2010 at 4:03 PM ^

It's not necessarily "how long" -- we have extreme deficiencies on defense right now, and it''s become painfully obvious that GERG isn't the answer. I would like to see Rodriguez get one more shot at finding a defensive coordinator who can do whatever it is he wants to do on defense.

If that guy can't come in and make a significant impact -- or the offense doesn't become so awesome that it doesn't matter -- then I'll be fine with moving on. But my main point is that we have essentially one of the best offensive coordinators in the country as the head coach, so when the obvious problems are on defense, I want to do everything possible to see if we can figure that part out while keeping a very good (and soon-to-be dominant offense) in place.

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shorts

November 20th, 2010 at 4:06 PM ^

So to answer your question a little more directly, I guess next year will give us the answer.

If an experienced offense is so awesome that we can compete for the Big Ten title with 10-ish wins, that'll obviously answer any concerns.

If we get a new D-coordinator and it doesn't help enough and we're still middle of the pack in the conference, I think three defensive coordinators is plenty of opportunity to find somebody respectable. If RichRod keeps GERG and we're still just as bad on defense and mediocre overall, the same logic applies.

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csam1490

November 20th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ^

8 wins, if it's improvement (that is, we lose versus OSU in 2010), he stays. You never ditch consistent improvement. I guess I would also say improvement in defenseive metrics would be necessary. The statistical improvement in the offense this year has been stunning and a big part of why RR gets another year.

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shorts

November 20th, 2010 at 4:32 PM ^

Mostly just a bunch of similar comments from SirJack and other people about how we'll never succeed against good teams in the Big Ten, etc., etc., despite the fact that we knew going into the game that Wisconsin was a better team and ranked in the top 10 for a reason.

It seems like every loss brings out the same exact boilerplate chatter, and it gets old. I wasn't trying to incite an argument, obviously.

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MileHighWolverine

November 20th, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^

what is sane about the state of our D?  Did you really expect our D to give up 5+ yards even with 9 guys in the box?  I mean, seriously?  I thought they would be bad but they've shown almost no improvement whatsoever.  They still try to tackle up around the shoulders and consistently throw weak arm tackles all over the place.  We are the laughing stock of the NCAA and even Dr. Lou is taking shots at us.....

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csam1490

November 20th, 2010 at 11:13 PM ^

Football isn't something you try to make sense of. It's not a math problem. You either enjoy it or you don't. I have enjoyed this season (remember 5-0 and Denard lock for Heisman?). It's a successful improvement based on where we were. If you think we never should have been so low, that's fine.

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sarto1g

November 20th, 2010 at 2:57 PM ^

There is still a game next week.  We showed promise today but couldn't get anything going in the first half.  Here's to opening up the playbook next weekend and leaving it all on the field.

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sarto1g

November 20th, 2010 at 3:19 PM ^

Did I expect the defense to be good?  Did I expect them to be ready to compete with one of the most powerful offenses in the big ten?  Absolutely not.  They were down 24 at the half but they didn't give up and cut it to 10.  Our offense got it together in the 2nd half and the D  made some good stops but kept getting punched in the mouth.  WE ARE NOT A GREAT FOOTBALL TEAM so don't expect to play like one.  Our offense will continue to get better next year and our defense will do the same.  

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MileHighWolverine

November 20th, 2010 at 3:34 PM ^

but they were shredding us in the air.  And if you look at the runs in the second half, there was a lot more of running it up the gut in vanilla formations than the stretch runs that were gashing us in the 1st half.  It seemed like they played with less intensity in the second half and then even Bielema alluded to it during his interview on the field when he was asked why they ran so much in the second half.  He rolled his eyes and said something like: we score too much for the media's taste last week and now you ask why we ran so much?

They let us off the hook.

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BigBlue02

November 20th, 2010 at 4:45 PM ^

They didn't let us off shit. Let's not start this "Wisconsin let off the gas because they didn't want to run it up on us and played with less intesnsity the 2nd half" shit. They ran the ball becasue they averaged 8 yards a rush. They didn't have any problem running up the score last week, they would have this week if they could have.

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BigBlue02

November 20th, 2010 at 6:42 PM ^

You would stop passing because your running game is averaging over 6 yards per carry. If they let us off the hook, they would have put their backups in just like last week. As I said before, if you are in a game where 1 defensive stop can get you within a field goal, the other team isn't "letting you off the hook." They didn't pass it because they didn't need to.

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MileHighWolverine

November 20th, 2010 at 7:47 PM ^

is that UW was so worried about us coming back they decided to become a completely 1 dimensional team and rely 99% on the run for the rest of the game even though they were 14/15 with 200 yards passing in the 1st half?  

And to paraphrase your earlier statement: they didn't run up the score on us because they couldn't . . . even though they averaged 6+ yds a carry and 13+ yds a pass.  

interesting theory.  I still think they could have hung 60 on us if they really tried.

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dahblue

November 20th, 2010 at 11:20 PM ^

They did embarrass us.  By running on every play but one (2nd half), they showed us just how far we are from being able to compete.  They said, "You know what?  We're going to run every play, we're telling you what we're doing and you still won't be able to stop us!"  Maybe they eased up on D, but they shoved that rock down our throat today.

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shorts

November 20th, 2010 at 4:59 PM ^

That's because we're not in the upper half of the Big Ten.

A great offense + a terrible defense = Michigan being pretty average right now. They are what they are, and while it's not great, I think there's only so much to realistically expect against one of the better teams in the country.

I bet on Wisconsin today because they are, IMO, one of the top six or seven best teams in the country. We are not -- not yet. But I see plenty of reason to think that if the defense ever improves to decent or better, we will compete for national titles.

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MileHighWolverine

November 20th, 2010 at 3:02 PM ^

it's losing while looking totally lost out there.  It is continuing to force feed a scheme on defense that we don't have the personnel to run.  It is our offense doing jack shit until the score is 24-0.  It is the constant turnovers. It is Spielman completely embarrassing us on tv and pointing out (correctly) every one of our shortfalls on D.  It is the lack of ANY improvement in the kicking game.

I expected 7-5 but I never imagined our D would be the worst in the NCAA.

EDIT: Add to that all of the stupid injuries by leaving in guys like V. Smith in too long.  Or not telling our guys to just take a knee instead of running the ball out of the endzone when you are 5 yards deep.  

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steviebrownfor…

November 20th, 2010 at 3:18 PM ^

being down 10 in the 3rd quarter is not out of hand (Today & PSU)

being down 7 in the 4th quarter is not out of hand (Iowa)

Wisconsin had their starting defense play the whole game. Also you accused the offense of not trying. Why am I even bothering to respond...

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