November 15th, 2017 at 6:38 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:53 AM ^
#5 team on the road - we'll jump to about 15. Wisc will fall to about where you say.
November 15th, 2017 at 3:21 PM ^
to like 12th with them dropping to 13th.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:56 AM ^
Absolute, utter horseshit by any metric.
Again, we would be favored against almost 10 teams ahead of us on a neutral field. This is just anti-Michigan bias, pure and simple.
November 15th, 2017 at 6:27 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 7:01 AM ^
In the words of Mr. Spock, "Fascinating!"
November 15th, 2017 at 5:31 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
The committee has been fairly consistent in four years of giving more credit for quality wins than it dings for losses (and any quality, really).
In 2014, they largely (and correctly) devalued an early season loss by OSU to VT because OSU finished really strongly with a bunch of impressive quality wins.
In 2015, they devalued a loss by MSU to Nebraska (not a godo team) because MSU beat quality opponents in Michigan, OSU and Iowa. Even though OSU was clearly the better team and have a "better" loss (to MSU vs to Nebraska), they went with the team that had more quality wins.
Same in 2016 with Clemson who had a pretty bad loss but won all their tough games.
If you're going to lose a game, lose to a bad team because you didn't cost yourself a chance at a quality win. It seems counterintuitive but you get hurt more by losing to a good team because you take a loss AND you missed the opportunity for a quality win (and will get ranked behind that other quality team now if you're close in the rankings).
This was all a response to the BCS which put teams ahead of teams they lost to all the time, because computers are better at guaging the "quality" of a loss. But that led to a ton of anger about teams making it in over teams they lost to (ex OU made it over Texas in 2008, despite Texas beating OU and only losing one game to Texas Tech).
November 15th, 2017 at 6:12 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:28 AM ^
They have better wins, for one.
We've beaten no one that even has a winning record, much anyone who is ranked. Northwestern has checked off both of those categories. They've earned it.
November 15th, 2017 at 6:27 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 7:06 AM ^
The problem is that the committee is also not (consistently) factoring in losses. Sparty beat UM in a rainstorm mud show, then got blown out by OSU. They only dropped less than 10 spots.
UM got blown out by PSU and dropped out of the top 25 altogether after being in the upper teens.
That logic doesn’t add up and is clearly inconsistent. This is what we should expect with a fully human committee
November 15th, 2017 at 9:18 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:46 PM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 7:46 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 7:57 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 6:45 PM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:34 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 10:25 AM ^
Against our schedule? MSU would not have won that night game in good old Happy Valley. Results there would probably have more resembled the showing in Columbus.
November 15th, 2017 at 7:26 PM ^
showed up vs Northwestern and OSU. I predicted they would go 1-4 in last 5. I didn't expect them to beat PSU. I thought they would lose to NW, PSU, OSU then split with the last two. I still expect them to lose to one or both (Rutgers/MD). If I had to pick one game they will lose, it would be Rutgers. Rutgers and Maryland will be playing to make their season. MSU will be going through motions.
November 15th, 2017 at 8:44 AM ^
Choosing the 2 and 3 spots between Clemson and Miami are tough. A few weeks ago I would've said Clemson is without question the better team. Even after their Syracuse loss. But Miami just put two straight whoopins on VaTech and Notre Dame. Right now I'd probably put Miami as 2 and Clemson as 3, but Bama and Oklahoma as 1 and 4 are good.
Honestly, as long as OSU doesn't sneak in I'm good. Would take a lot of chaos, and if any 2-loss team is getting in it's probably Auburn. But if some things fall apart, and teams like Auburn, Georgia, and Clemson all lose again, and OSU pastes everyone left on it's schedule, they could conceivably sneak in as the 4 seed.
November 15th, 2017 at 9:26 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 6:43 PM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^
H2H is a tiebreaker generally.
MSU has 3 losses, M two.
Sigh... if Peters was in that game, I gotta think Michigan wins. We just needed someone to manage it. Sparty gets FIVE take aways and can only put up 14 points?! Whatever.
November 15th, 2017 at 9:47 AM ^
November 15th, 2017 at 9:26 AM ^
Yep... no credibility in that poll dropping SpartyLOL 5 points after that tire fire of a game.
Also, way to go Dantonio kicking that FG to channel your inner James Franklin.
November 15th, 2017 at 7:47 PM ^