OT - What has happened to Tiger Woods golf game?

Submitted by trueblue262 on

I know this is far from a golf blog, but it's beyond weird to me how quickly things have changed for Tiger. He just shot a 44 on the front in Phoenix.

Does he need Stevie back? Elin? Butch? 

NoVaWolverine

January 30th, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^

(BTW, I'm setting Bobby Jones aside for this discussion -- different era, way different equipment.)

I'm assuming Tiger keeps playing for a while, maybe even wins a few tournaments if he's lucky, but never sniffs another major.

Peak Tiger was something to behold. When he was on, he was so utterly dominant. Winning the 2008 Open at Pebble Beach basically on one leg was one of the greatest competitive feats I've ever seen. I'm too young to have seen the Bear at his peak; I have childhood memories of him winning the '86 Masters, that's about it.

As things stand today, I think you have to give the nod to Nicklaus; while his peak might not have been as dominant as Tiger, his sustained his peak for much longer. And you can argue that Jack's rivals during his peak -- first Arnold Palmer, then Trevino and Player, then Watson -- were stiffer competition than what Tiger faced when he was racking up many of his majors (no Rory yet, Mickelson still getting his act together, David Duval flaming out spectacularly after his brief run of greatness, Sergio never living up to the hype).

CoachBP6

January 30th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^

Woods hasn't been real good in quite some time. Personally I always thought he was a dick. While he was in Rochester, ny a few years back a little boy no more than 5-6 and his father sought his autograph. I worked the tourney that weekend and was headed to the parking lot where I witnessed tiger completely walk right by the the little guy like he didn't even exist. I felt it was such a dick move I yelled, "bet you would have signed if it were a bartender from Ruby Tuesday's", to which the young mans father had a chuckle. Fuck tiger woods and his golf game.

Ty Butterfield

January 30th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^

There seemed to be some whispers even when Tiger was at his peak that he was a total dick. It seemed like he was given a pass because he was winning and the golf writers needed access to him. Now that he is now longer winning the gloves are off.

langkyl

January 30th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^

...the tour consensus is that he's never been the same due to human growth hormone, in the early years. Anger issues, injuries, and a "bulking up", were a couple obvious ones. Regardless,  his swing never was the same after he bulked up.

HonoluluBlue

January 30th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^

The PGA Tour began their drug testing program the week after his US Open victory over Rocco Mediate. They only test those who play. He took 9 months off after that win. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Has not won a major since.

WolverineinSB

January 30th, 2015 at 9:23 PM ^

I follow golf constantly. I have heard the HGH things and he has lost some weight. But HGH wouldn't help in golf. His short game was the best in golf and that's why he won. He also made every clutch putt. Those are things that would not be improved by HGH. His current struggles are because of injuries and personal struggles. If u think HGH would help much in golf u do not play that much golf. Ur flexibility would be terrible and your touch would suck. Tiger has WD from tournaments before because of "injuries" when he was playing terrible but that has no correlation to HGH. His swing was very violent at a young age and he is currently paying for that



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HonoluluBlue

January 31st, 2015 at 12:40 AM ^

The loss of flexibility is such an old shool thought on PEDs. Since you guessed my golf ability, and you're wrong, I am going to guess you are not young. The flexibility myth is just not true. If it was then why would Tiger and so many other golfers spend so much time working out? Read "Game of Shadows". There was a time when baseball purists said PEDs wouldn't help you hit home runs. I don't think anyone feels that way now. In addition to muscle gain PEDs can improve your vision and your recovery time. Obviously these would help any pro golfer (or any athlete for that matter). A quicker recovery time allows atheletes to work out in ways that before werenot manageable because you would carry over muscle ache and stiffness, not anymore. Know what happens to athletes who abrubtly go clean? Lots and lots of weird and nagging injuries. Sound familiar? Again, maybe all a coincidence, maybe not.

Wolfman

January 31st, 2015 at 12:53 AM ^

Called life.  He fucked up his family by pillowing every ho he could get his hands on and was about to sign with viagra before his game left him completely.  Doesn't matter how famous or rich, you lose people you love and priorities become very clear.  Second chances, not so much.

west2

January 30th, 2015 at 2:38 PM ^

is between his ears.  Needs to hang around Pete Carroll.  Too bad too as Tiger could have broken all the records if he had kept his head screwed on. 

BlueinLansing

January 30th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^

this is his first real competition since the change last fall.  He's been gushing about how much further he's been hitting it the last few weeks.  The guys has barely played competitive golf for a year. 

 

relax man, he'll be fine

 

 

Jack won one major from the age of 35 to 40

CLord

January 30th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^

Tiger Woods is the Janice Dickinson or Meg Ryan of golf.  All were born with incredible gifts - Tiger at golf, the ladies at looks. But these perfectionists couldn't handle only being in the top .0001% of their talent vertical so they all kept cosmetically tampering with their gifts until they are now unrecognizable.  Dickinson's excuse is she's an insane model, and Ryan is an actress so she's probably pretty zany too.

Ty Butterfield

January 30th, 2015 at 3:12 PM ^

I will say when Tiger was at his peak it was fun to watch. I would go out of my way to watch majors when Tiger was playing. There have always been rumors about PEDs and his swing seems to put a lot of pressure on his lower body. I just think he may not he able to keep up anymore without using. He was a always a dick to people and got away with it because he was winning. Now things are very different. I would be very surprised if he won another major.

mtzlblk

January 30th, 2015 at 3:30 PM ^

since he is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and he has played golf every waking moment of his life up until now, he is simply bored and his heart isn't in it anymore. 

I mean, how much of one sport/lifestyle can you take?

Here it goes......he has lost the "eye of the Tiger", so to speak /s

If I were him, I would be interested in doing anything BUT golf for the rest of my life, but then again I am not a big fan of the game to begin with. 

champswest

January 30th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^

that I read years ago when Tiger was in his hayday.  I am not sure what the question from the reporter was, but I think it was about Tiger catching his win total for majors.  Jack said some very nice things about Tiger and then added: "Let's see how well he does once he marries and starts raising a family."  It was an odd statement and kind of surprised me at the time, but I think it has proven to be somewhat prophetic, if not spot on.

pdgoblue25

January 30th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

The talent on tour these days can absolutely rival the late 60's early 70's (Nicklaus, Palmer, Hogan, Snead, Trevino, Ballesteros, Player etc..)  These days every single player in the field can win on any given week.

Tiger came out of a cannon and started blowing the ball 40 yards past everyone in the game.  He was playing courses that weren't suited for this and he just completely overpowered them, and intimidated every player on tour who wasn't ready for this.

The PGA to combat this started setting up courses that were so long, Tiger was literally one of the only people in the field who could compete on them.  Now the field has caught up to the course set ups.

Now he's facing an entire field that hits it just as long as he does, and is not afraid of him anymore.  Combine this with injuries and lack of confidence, and you have the Tiger Woods of today.

oriental andrew

January 30th, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

You put the Tiger Woods of the early aughts head-to-head with any of the players on any of the courses today and he would still be a dominant force, and probably the best player out there. Yes, the field has caught up, but it's a combination of a stronger field AND the downgrade in Tiger's play (for whatever reasons). You take one of those elements out of the equation (either the field hasn't improved or Tiger sustains his previous level of play) and he's still the best golfer in the world. 

pdgoblue25

January 30th, 2015 at 7:22 PM ^

And he's still not as good as Jack was at his best, because he's 4 majors short with steroids. There is no Dr. Anthony Galea in Jack's past, Tiger can't say that. I know that Bill Russell, George Mikan, and Wilt were great players. I can't say they would be as great against Shaq, Dwight Howard and Moses Malone.

Benoit Balls

January 30th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

grip it and rip it. He's become waaaaay too technical over the years, thinking he should be able to control the golf ball the way we can when we have controllers in our hands. It's just not possible. He's thinking too much, trying to be too perfect. He just needs to go out there and "Nuke LaLoosh" it.  One of the best things my golf coach ever told me was that I needed to stop "paralysis by analysis" trust my game and "see ball, hit ball". ESPECIALLY with the short game. The short game is more of a feel than anything else. If you're specnding too much time in between your own ears, you'll be spending a lot of time swearing after chunked shots.

 

He should ease up and try and have some fun. Quit worrying about the major record. He has enough money to last 100 lifetimes. He should go out there and play with "house money" because at least then if he shoots an 82, he can have a sense of humor about it.

Wendyk5

January 30th, 2015 at 6:17 PM ^

I believe he felt invincible before the Elin debacle. I'm sure he thought he'd never get caught. Perhaps that superhero sensibility - the one that made him almost unbeatable - withered away when he realized he was fallible. 

M-GoGirl

January 31st, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^

He hasn't been the same since all his marital problems started. Between that and his injuries, he's not mentally or physically the same golfer he was. And I think most of it is mental. A confidence thing.