OT - Update to Petrino Story of Rescinding Scholarship Offer
This was posted about yesterday. Matt Colburn, a 3-star RB from South Carolina, committed to Louisville 8 months ago and shut down his recruiting. On the eve of NSD, Petrino rescinded the scholarship offer when it became clear that they had gotten more commitments than they had scholarships.
Colburn's coach is understandable furious and has now banned Petrino from recruiting his high school ever again. He thinks others may follow suit.
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Bobby-Petrino-Louisville-banned-from-recruiting-SC-high-school-35338663
I hope more coaches do this. A high school coach's job is to protect his kids, and rescinding a scholarship offer is one of the most damaging developments that can happen; especially when you have been committed for awhile and haven't looked at other schools.
Furthermore, this is a way to hold the schmucks of the recruiting world accountable. The best football high schools are a sort of life-line for these coaches; continually pumping out talented prospects. Cut off that life-line and maybe these coaches will change their behavior.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^
I just love the fact that Petrino can't stop stepping on his crank with his golf shoes on. The man wins games, but is an utter slimeball. Of course, watching the human train-wreck is fun from the outside.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
Eh - with Roquan Smith in limbo and Wayne Lyons hopefully still coming I'm not sure we need another RB at this juncture.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:11 AM ^
the same thing. Just as a fuck you to Petrino.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ^
I'm not a fan of banking scholarships, but Colburn is a really herky-jerky runner who doesn't change direction very well. I don't see him being superior to most of the guys we already have on the roster.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
jeez WD...the autoneg is strong with some ppl
February 5th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
I hear Iowa is in need of a good RB in this class...
February 5th, 2015 at 10:13 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 10:18 AM ^
I heard that. I believe Iowa is still in need of a good RB in this class.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:13 AM ^
There is no reason to unleash the AIRBHG on him.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^
I don't understand why in the world a coach would ever do what Petrino did. The path of least resistance in this situation is to do what Urban Meyer is doing at Ohio State: just sign them all and sort it out later. Both courses of action are equally unethical from an intent standpoint. Petrino is making it more flagrant and sensational by renegging on a promise the day before signing day. Meyer will be (or has) renegging on (approximately 24 over the past four years) promises in a more behind-the-scenes fashion.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^
At least in this scenario the kid can still look around to find another school, even though that would've been a lot easier earlier in the process. If you just sign everyone and then figure it out later like a lot of coaches do, someone's gonna end up not being on the team and likely unable to go to another D1 school without sitting out first (although it might be an upperclassmen).
Regardless, both practices suck.
January 27th, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^
this seems relevant to what's going on these days. why does this thread keep getting bounced off the front page..
Go Blue
February 5th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
does a high school football coach ban a college football coach from recruiting his players? He can certainly refuse to cooperate, but he can't stop contact nor does he have the right to interfere with a prospect's rights. If its a public school, I don't even see how he can ban Petrino from the school. That said, if the coach has sway within the community, he can make it very difficult.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^
A lot of times these coaches come and visit prospects at their schools. They'll typically talk to the recruit's head coach, maybe have the coach pull the kid out of class so they can meet in person. HS Coach could refuse. Heck if the recruiter needs to be signed in as a visitor at the school, the school could probably refuse to let him in. Could refuse to send tape to Petrino. Tell all his players and their parents how scummy Petrino is, etc.
But yeah, they can't literally ban Petrino from recruiting a kid if the kid wants to go there.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:04 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:57 PM ^
coaches aren't allowed to call them. They get around this by calling the kid's HS coach and saying, "hey, have pllayer X call us. We're interested."
College coaches also need access to the high school to do whatever academic evaluations the coach is going to do.
If your name is mud with the HS coach, the obvious way to get around the rule against calling the kid directly is shut down. The HS coach can either be very helpful to college coaches, or very unhelpful.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:20 AM ^
"He (Petrino) won't be able to recruit my school anymore and I imagine there will be some other coaches that will say the same thing. Trust factor is just not there."
I honestly think more people would have understood if Petrino had just gotten a new mistress and then given her a job in the Louisville athletic department, or indeed if he once again went on a personal quest to try and get Tommy Tubberville fired because he wanted Tubberville's job.
The way this kid has been treated by Petrino and his staff is terrible, and I hope Petrino does lose a few pipelines as a result - I do believe the man's seemingly eternal dishonesty needs to be advertised better so all can see it.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^
Coaches like Petrino can do just fine losing out on recruits from one out of state HS. That's not really any disincentive for slimy moves. Hopefully, other HS coaches take notice and proactively protect their players.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^
that this isn't the face of a man you can completely trust?
I'm disillusioned, man.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:40 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^
I spent sometime on 11 warriors or whatever they call it last night reading a thread that had almost 300 comments when a bucknut approached the subject of the bucknuts being hypocrites after criticizing the SEC for years. Some of their rationale was you have to trust our coaches that they know better than us on the numbers. They didn't want to address the rise in medical hardships under Myer. From what I could ascertain, you have to get down to 85 by August 1st. and that the Big Ten limits a single year signing from NSD to May 1st to 25 , +3 if you can show how you are going to get down to 85 by August.
I am no expert is this field, but it appears you medical redshirt, tell the kid he isn't going to play and look elsewhere if he wants to, revoke a scholarship for violating team rules, or don't offer a 5th year senior a scholarship if he has already received a 4 year scholarship (contractuall committment met) to get down to 85 scholarships by the fall. From the stand point of the kid who is about to be oversigned, to sign him them make him have to sit out a year by forcing (his decision but coach's basically say you are never going to play look elsewhere **think B. Dunn**), is worse then doing it at NSD, as at least he will not be trapped into losing eligibility.
As far as the not offering a 5th year, I find that the least offensive of the options as the contractual obligation of four years has been met. The SEC is far more offensive with the 1 year renewable scholarships, however. Basically, if the NCAA isn't going to allow a recruit to commit until NSD and make it binding on the University, the kids should always keep their options open and fax their LOI before they notify the coaches they are coming so that the University doesn't revoke the offer before acceptance by the recruit.
i find it interesting that it always seems to be a quiet regarding injuries and medical redshirts, until oversigning questions are asked.
The Big Ten, I believe, requires 4 year scholarships. But the smaller schools don't have the revenue to be able to do it. But why Alabama and LSU are opposed to it, well draw your own conclusion.
Young recruits and their parents, need to get better educated on the system as it currently stands.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:07 AM ^
If Meyer was really fudging the medical numbers, don't you think former players would come out at criticize him like we have seen with LSU and Bama in years past?
Idk how he does it or maybe OSU just has lower retention due to competition and kids just leave?
February 5th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^
I don't think that competition can explain why OSU or any school would have a higher transfer rate, at least for those schools in the upper echelon. They all have the same size roster and the same number of minutes of playing time.
Non power conference schools or maybe lower tier power 5 schools might have a greater percentage of kids who are less concerned with playing time to get themselves showcased for a potential future NFL career. Even that is a dubious claim, because most of the athletes are presumably competitive and desire a chance to play the game for which they practice so many hours.
Regardless, if a school has a significantly higher transfer rate than others in its class, I would suspect that similar to high medical redshirting rates, you have a coach more active in pursuing them.
February 5th, 2015 at 10:46 AM ^
The days of giving a walk-on a scholarship after several years, may be over or very limited at oversigning schools.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^
As a parent, I would do everything shy of forbidding my child to attend an SEC school if they were a big time recruit. If it doesn't work out, your scholarship is going to be pulled. Besides, unless you go to Vanderbilt, your degree isn't exactly going to wow anyone (with the possible exception of Florida).
But, here's the even bigger mystery. I would rather my child go to the SEC 100 times than to Louisville. What parent doesn't understand the man is a lying, cheating, despicable human being? When even your ex-coaches/friends call you names like coward, or won't even speak to you to call you a name, you are a bad person and will NEVER be allowed power over my child.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^
Petrino's unethical behavior is not only impacting Matt Colburn, there are probably dozens of incidences where he is cutting corners at Louisville. That gives his players the impression that is acceptable to cheat in life. It is going to affect what kind of husbands, fathers, and citizens they will be in 15 - 20 years down the road. With coaches like Petrino and Rick Pitino, you have to wonder what Louisville's priorities are.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:33 AM ^
While Petrino and coaches who do this are scumbags, he is only playing the game as it has been constructed by the NCAA et al. Petrino is paid an obscene amount of money to win football games. He is going to take the players he thinks can best help him accomplish that. He has one or two bad years, and he will get pushed out the door fast. Just like Saban putting 20 kids on medicals. Sure, totally scummy. But as long as that is how the rules are constructed, he will play the game to his advantage, and in 20 years everyone will remember Bamas domination, and no one will remember that scumminess...
January 27th, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
Agree. This kind of thing is just going to happen with more teams in the future
February 5th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
I believe Brian has proposed an alternative to prevent this kind of thing, and it wasn't an early signing period which he pointed out had other weaknesses. Does anyone remember what that was?
February 5th, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^
I'd love to see Petrino blocked out of high schools. The guy's a dirtbag of the highest order and Louisville sold their soul to stay relevant.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:23 PM ^
I know it's a different sport, but it makes me appreciate Beilein on how he honors his offers. Go Blue!
February 5th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^
Glad I'm a moron and tried to make a post about this. Way to be ahead of the game!
January 27th, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
Bump. We were so quick to throw stones last year right before NSD...
January 27th, 2016 at 11:41 AM ^
January 27th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^
How is it 'not even close'? is it because it is a week out instead of a day or two?
January 27th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
This is phenomenal.
January 27th, 2016 at 11:46 AM ^
sounds shady as hell.
January 27th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^
We don't even know the details of either issue.
January 27th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^
from piling on Petrino. Granted, he's an asshat anyway, regardless of what happened in this situation.
January 27th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^