OT: Texas doesn't play school
For a while this was better than they were doing in football. A C+ effort could probably still beat Kansas and/or Maryland on a football field.
This is a dumb graphic, but a team wide average of a 2.89 is not bad. That’s between a B and a B-.
What struck me wasn't the 2.89, but this part
Yep. Lord knows I would have killed for a 3.0 in a few Econ classes at Michigan. The fact that that’s the best GPA in 116 years?!
All men's average GPA at Michigan is around 3.3, so 2.89 would be a poor GPA here. Average GPA at Texas might be lower though if the professors grade on a harder curve.
This appears bad, but I suspect this is quite good. I would bet this is not far off of the all campus average. For an organization that is over 100 people and does not select members based on an already established GPA, it is not bad at all.
Not this day and age. Average undergraduate study body GPA was 3.25 in 2009. I would imagine that's closer to 3.4 now. As the job market has gotten more competitive, so have students' GPAs.
Does the average college grad report his/her GPA, assuming they are not going into some sort of grad school or professional degree?
No.
I sure hope not at least...
...and I've seen it lass than a handful of times on any resume which has come across my desk.
I've never really seen a metric in my industry which correlates GPA to on the job performance either.
Where did you find that data? That seems exceptionally high compared to when/where I went to undergrad.
I found it for 2018, it was 3.28. This shockingly high, a lot less respect for UT academics.
I've hired my share of folks (in IT), and I've never worried about their GPA. In what industry is this important? If you have a degree from the University of Michigan, I really don't care if you got a C in econ.
Once you've been in the job market for a while it doesn't matter. It DEFINITELY matters right out of college. I know I scored interviews due to my academic record at Michigan.
Because 75% of your classes are relevant to your degree, so your GPA should still reflect how well you know the subject material you are being hired for.
Also, people who do poorly in elective courses should be smart enough to put their Major GPA on their resume instead, if not, that is also telling...
Have you seen the studies about how much people retain from college courses they took.
I get it why GPA may be important for medicine, law, or engineering (admittance, exclusivity, etc.). But for others, again, there's very little correlation between GPA and job performance.
Yeah this is actually quite good and Texas is a fine university don’t you feel dumb now
They need more walk-ons.
Also btw if you took a sampling of 120 random Texas undergrads and averaged out a collective GPA this is about what you’d get
When I was in Austin many years ago, I'm pretty sure I tried to take a sample of about 120 Texas undergrads.
Success was limited.
If you're hovering around a 3, not surprised.
/s
If YouTuber “pranks that totally aren’t staged” has taught me anything, renting a Lamborghini for an hour will get you the data you’re looking for.
Students are more grade driven and faculty are more willing to give higher grades and reject curve/normative grading these days, so the average is likely closer to 3.4. It was 3.25 in 2009.
Are we faculty easier on students, though? Really?
Yes. The fact that students bitch so much about grades definitely makes me go easier so they don’t waste a ton of my time. It makes no difference to me if some shitter gets a D+ when he really should have failed. Life will take care of him.
Unfortunately there is truth to this. The program I teach in graduates students that years ago never would have made it. Sad but true.
But would that group of random students advertise their not so stellar combined average scores? It’s a super strange brag
Uhhhh this is pretty standard for a football team, if not on the high end.
Is it something to be pumped up about? No. But this is not bad at all for a football team with 100+ kids contributing to the GPA. Especially at Texas, where most the scholarship kids arent academically qualified.
I would bet that ours is hardly different.
I’d love to know ours as well. I assume that the OP thought this gpa sucked due to all the “Player X got a 3.85 gpa” stories that get told about the academically minded kids at Michigan.
Unfortunately, there’s a reason why those kids get called out for good gpa’s - because most of them don’t have great ones.
Same here. As UM fans we do like to do the school thing a bit too much. UM’s players probably go to class as much as the Texas players.
The thing isn't the GPA it's the fact this is the highest semester GPA in Texas history.
Texas has been playing football since 1893!
I'm pretty sure it hasn't been a thing that's been tracked for all of time.
Notre Dame only started tracking their GPAs since 1992
But you'd hope they could get a 3.0 at least once. But under 3.0 is the norm for a team GPA
That's still 54 semesters. Every player needs about a 2.0 just to stay eligible so I'm surprised their record GPA isn't higher.
Their PR department would have been better served by just bragging about their team getting it's highest GPA ever. No need to put the number in large print.
I get that there's two sides to this. Texas is clearly not just handing out high grades because they're athletes in revenue sports. I bet UNC's record is higher.
True. But just remember:
For every kid that gets a 4.0, a 2.0 from another kid makes the average a 3.0
And there are wayyyyy more kids getting closer to 2.0's than 4.0's each semester.
We only have 45 kids with cumulative GPAs above 3.0, which is only about 40% of the team or so. It's just tough to get a giant team of guys, many if whom aren't qualified to get into the university on their own, to get a team GPA above 3.0
Note Dame has higher standards than the average D1 school, and their record (as far as I know) is right at 3.0.
I doubt seriously that tracking GPA is a relatively recent development for anyone. As long as there have been GPA requirements coaches/ADs have been delivered a list (in some form) of player names and GPAs so they can try to get guys who aren’t at the eligibility line above it.
Reporting GPAs in public as recent development I believe.
*median
come on, everyone knows to assume a symmetric gaussian distribution.
FOTFL...statistics like that don’t lie
If Texas is a reputable university (it is) and lowers its admissions standards to get football players (it does), and then asks those players to basically work a full-time job in addition to going to class . . . shouldn't we expect them to have mediocre GPAs? Wouldn't it be suspicious if the team GPA were really good? Then there'd probably be some UNC-style "paper classes" involved...
I was thinking the same thing. At least there is actual grading going on. This is a lesson many world authoritarians could learn when they hold sham "elections" and win 99% of the vote. C'mon, Putin, just make it a little more believable and go 55% just once.
But then who would get the other 45%?
Think carefully before you answer.
On the general point, I agree completely. The student athletes do have mandatory multiple hours of 1:1 or small group tutoring per day, which helps, but certainly does not remediate all academic shortcomings they may enter with, nor does the 40+ hr/wk athletic job/travel schedule.
Guess I just assumed they did the UNC and suggested certain online and or otherwise easy classes, likely where the tests are posted online and never change, semester to semester.
Was going to talk shit but then I realized that was better than my GPA in college so I guess I'll just click over to the Tuesday night drinking thread.
Not to take away from the narrative the OP is going for here...
but, I attended UT prior to transferring to UM; I can say, it's a quality school.
Quite difficult to get into as an undergrad. Definitely one of the very best public universities south of the mason-dixon line.
MOM OF COLLEGE KID: You got a 2.89 GPA this semester?? What the hell??
COLLEGE KID: Mom, that's the highest GPA in the history of Texas football.
MOM OF COLLEGE KID: Guh?
It isn’t bad but there is an easy solution here.. just don’t put the number on the graphic.
How smart are we when half the comments in this thread seem to focus more on "the number not actually being that bad cuz stats" than the whole "highest semester GPA in team HISTORY" part?