OT: Rumor, Large Amounts of Atlanta Police calling in sick
This is scary.
Rumor is that many Atlanta police are calling in sick after a cop from the recent shooting was charged with felony murder.
Atlanta PD's Twitter is downplaying it, but people are pointing out that many of the Atlanta police zones have dead air on their radio. I did use the online police scanner and it was dead air when I was tuned in for whatever zone I chose. Allegedly Atlanta asked the suburb police departments for help and they said they would only respond to "officer down" calls.
This could get ugly if many cops don't show up to work.
That is part of being a cop. Sometimes (rarely) they have to be judge, jury, and executioner. They are trained for those types of situations (some better than others). This is why they are issued guns.
And when some do it incredibly poorly, they should be fired, charged and prosecuted.
We should assume that. When a cop takes someone's life it should absolutely clear that it is justified. The burden of proof should be on them to justify violating someone constitutional right to a fair trial. In our current system, if the police arrest someone and charges are filed, the prosecutor will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the person arrested should be punished; if police execute justice in the street, they do not have to prove anything to anyone - they just need to claim self-defense and then the burden of proof shifts away from them and onto a DA. The justification for use of force should have the same standard as any government punishment.
We have three branches of government, not one. No single branch can make laws, enforce those laws, and carry out punishment for breaking those laws. All of us, left and right, should shutter at the thought of police usurping the other branches of government. Everyone has the right to be held accountable for their actions in court, not in the street. Getting shot in the back by a government agent while running away is a constitutional violation. Those that occupied the MI State Capitol with guns should be the same protesting the expansive use of deadly force by the government. Those people don't give a shit because their friends aren't the ones dying in the street.
Reasonable people would think if they break into someone’s home they’re doing so knowing The owner killing them is a probability.
I think this video is a reminder that being a cop isn't as easy as it looks, biased or not. You're put in scenarios that can be no wins either way. I believe most police officers don't go into work thinking I want to kill someone today or I hope a riot breaks out so I can beat some motherf*ckers
Didn’t even attempt to take aim are the civilian’s legs.
The dumb ass CHAZ/CHOP folks are so thrilled.
Your takes are always so incredibly lazy, I’m impressed you have any motivation at all to even type them out. I live a few blocks away from that area in Seattle. It’s so much less nefarious than anything you attempt to make it out to be to fit your narrative.
The people who caused that are absolute idiots and the national guard should be mobilized to deal with them.
You have been here for nearly 12 years OP. I can’t think of any other reason that you would create this topic other than to start a giant shitshow.
Real dick move wildbackdunesman.
Wrote a response, and changed my mind after posting. Probably a good decision...
This isn’t a question man, there is an actual Supreme Court case on shooting fleeing, unarmed suspects. Tennessee v. Garner.
he wasn’t armed with a gun.
He had a tazer. What if he fired the tazer at the cop again and hit him? Suspect could've taken the cop's gun.
There were 2 cops there...
Dude shot the tazer at the officer from probably 10 ft away and would've been the closest person to the gun. The police officer absolutely did the right thing.
This armchair quarterbacking from people in the comfort of their homes is laughable.
What babies, tell them you can’t just skate after shooting an unarmed man in the back while he runs away and they can’t handle it.
what part of drunk driving, resisting arrest, and taking a taser, pointing it back at the pursuing cops and firing it is unarmed? Hint: taser is considered a deadly weapon and not one of the charges will stick. Not to mention the DA filed charges before the GBI finished its investigation. No due process!! Cop will sue the city and win hands down
Perhaps you should go look at the laundry list of procedural violations by the two officers during the confrontation before and the killing. It’s in the indictment, and you won’t find it on OAN.
and a taser is considered non-lethal force when police use it, so it totally makes sense it is then a deadly weapon when a non-cop has one. Ok.
According to the use of force continuum, police are allowed to use equal or greater force when being attacked. So, if you have a knife or taser and are threatening police they can use a gun.
Ah, so that list of charges deserves the death sentence. Got it.
You can if YOU are being attacked
The good people of Atlanta don’t need a police department
LOL that cops are stopping burglars and rapists in their tracks instead of showing up hours later to fill out some paperwork. Go read some stories about sexual assault victims going to police and being asked "what were you wearing"?
So deterrence isn’t a thing?
It's a weak justification. If it were effective in this context, you'd see death penalties for everything.
Shit, I got my house broken into. Alarm went off. Looks like the perp ran away. Did a cop stop by to take a report? No. Had to file electronically. Where was the cop that magically apprehended the perp at the time of the crime? Where was the police cruiser that apprehended the person before he or she had the chance to commit a crime? Me, I felt shocked, I felt violated by the attempted break-in. But it was pretty clear that the police department didn't give a crap about what happened to me and wasn't going to even lift a finger to do anything about it, not even to take a report.
Me, I'm just your friendly law-abiding exec officer for a starship. Last personal interaction with a cop? Instead of a cop taking a police report for someone breaking into my house, it was me, at Costco. Got stopped by a cop in the Costco parking lot. For not having current registration tags. Don't know why he was on private property enforcing a minor thing such as license plate registrations (maybe he was getting free samples on paid time --you know on my tax dollars and yours) but I insisted mine were indeed current. He disagreed. Now me, I'm just a slightly built exec officer of a starship, not a big physically imposing "threatening" guy that he'd shoot or taser right away, got out of my car and freaking pointed to my current sticker on my license plate to him. He was clearly in the wrong. You know, what? No apology, no admission of error. Just drove away. Never figured out what that was. Stop and frisk? Shakedown attempt? I'm glad it was during the day in a packed parking lot at Costco with people all around me. What would have happened if it were night-time instead with fewer potential witnesses and camera phones around?
For anyone saying we need to defund the police and give the money to school districts...as a teacher I personally feel better knowing we have armed police ready to respond in case one of the children of the Chaz generation has a bad day and produces a bomb threat. What would really help school districts is not sending your kids to for-profit charter schools that take state per-pupil money.
If you're scared of bomb threats to the point where you want armed police constantly available in schools, maybe you should find the statistics teacher and ask for a lesson.
Not even constantly available, more like be available to take a call and come get us out of lockdown, if someone doesn't bash someone over the head with a skateboard first.
I'd laugh my ass off if I was statistically more likely to get shot at school than die of covid for my age.
You want no police, let's see how it goes!!!
My uncle is a retired sheriff deputy in mid-Michigan. He's seen it all from helping deliver babies on the side of the road, having a bottle broken over his head breaking up a bar fight and responding to severe car accidents. In my teens he told me how to respond to law enforcement with 3 responses: yes sir, no sir and thank you. Educated me what to do if ever pulled over in a car, hands on the wheel at 10 and 2 so the officer could see you. Beloved in the community. Was the cop you wanted to respond. Big and tough, someone you wouldn't want to fuck with. I called him recently to talk about what is going on and he is disgusted. Agrees that their are bad apples but cannot discuss how police officers are being tainted and targeted, got very emotional talking about this.
Did he report those bad apples? Would he have walked off the job if one of his coworkers shot someone in the back and faced consequences for it?
Fuck you Block M. My uncle is one of most honorable,loyal and decent people around. Young deputies looked up to and admired him, but also feared him because they knew he would hold them to a high standard of service. That man served with pride and honor for over 30 years and was celebrated at his retirement.
It sounds like he was well liked, and I don't know anything about him. He could be a saint for all I know. My point is that doing a good job yourself is not enough. If he called out young deputies and didn't sweep misconduct under the rug then kudos to him.
Lots of comments here and elsewhere are distraught at the way officers are being viewed in this negative light, but are they outraged enough at the behavior of their fellow cops to stand up against them?
I'm sick of hearing that we should respect all cops just because they have a badge and a gun. Nope. Just like I won't respect a priest just because he's got a robe or a politician because they're wearing a flag pin.
The many have to pay for the sins of the few. Have to believe most cops are decent people but cops come from the communities and are therefore a microcosm of them for better or worse.
I wouldn't mind seeing your right to ever call 911 revoked... if you can't respect a stranger willing to risk their life to help you, you don't deserve the help.
I don't disagree with you on the Priests though.. they're on their own.
It bothers me that this keeps getting repeated: “he shot him in the back” as if that somehow delegitimizes his actions. The justification is straightforward, even if you disagree with it.
The suspect has already proven he’s willing to take your weapon from you (the taser) and use it against you. If he were to hit you with the taser and you’re incapacitated, there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t take your gun and use that against you to kill you. The fact that his back was turned as he was firing the taser is not particularly relevant. He wouldn’t have shot him if the suspect hadn’t fired the taser. They would’ve just chased him down and subdued him there instead. There’s a reason pretty much every expert believes his actions were justified, not to mention his actions are supported by APD policy.
Now I can bust my uncle's balls a little. While he was big, strong and tough, he would not win many chases on foot. Thankfully neither I nor my son inherited the "speed" gene from him. Had cement in his fists and in his shoes!!!
Of course there is "reason to believe he wouldn't take your gun....." The reason is that he is running away from you. How is Rayshard Brooks going to take the officer's gun while he is running away from the officer?
You really are a piece of shit, blockm.
No, he isn't. It's a legit question. The reason these bad cops remain on the job is because too many good cops won't do anything to root them out.
I live in Atlanta...its getting bad...and for all you that want to abolish police? careful what you wish for...WHY would ANYONE want to be a cop anymore.???..I find the whole thing disgusting...brandishing all police with the same brush stroke as the few bad apples....
Defund the police is somewhat of a misnomer. Doesn’t mean abolish them. It’s actually more a reallocation of funds toward social services since cops spend a lot of time dealing with incidents related to poverty, mental illness ,homelessness and minor civil infractions. This would reduce police contact and opportunities for escalation as so many deaths result from trivial traffic stops.