bronxblue

January 3rd, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^

Sure.  My point is that he apparently got booted in some part because of a number of off-field issues, and to me that's a red flag even for some assistant who isn't directly involved in "official" coaching.

And more generally, I don't see why Michigan needs to take a flier on a guy when they already have the good parts of him reasonably replicated in Gattis.

Don

January 3rd, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^

When you get fired for team discipline problems in the SEC, you know things have gone off the rails.

Before the end of the day, some knuckleheaded MGoBlogger will post a comment saying Harbaugh should fire Gattis and replace him with Moorhead.

Naked Bootlegger

January 3rd, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^

Exactly.    I'm definitely not waving the "Fire Gattis/Hire Moorhead" flag.   It just immediately crossed my mind that a consultant gig could be a plausible scenario given Harbaugh's track record with hiring short-term consultants, especially if Moorhead is interested in cooling off for a year before jumping back into a HC or OC position.   

 

   

Mpfnfu Ford

January 3rd, 2020 at 10:26 AM ^

I mean, word was they wanted to move on from each other prior to the egg bowl and because Mississippi is america's dumbest state they kept him because the other team got a penalty for fake dog pissing. 

Everything about that marriage didn't work. He wasted the most talented Mississippi State team in decades resetting their offense instead of more or less just running Mullen's stuff for a year until those guys graduated. They disliked him immediately for being too Yankee. It seems he had a real difficult time being a head coach in a completely different region of the country he'd never worked in before. People made a big deal about Mullen being a yankee and working there, but they always leave out that he'd been an OC at Florida for years and had plenty of time to acclimate culturally.

I'd say the biggest culprit for why that went south though is they never fully understood how good they had it with Mullen and thought they could plug someone in and get the same results. Given how badly Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mizzou bungled their head coaching searches, they could end up with Willie Fritz and have a better coach than all three of them, which would be the funniest outcome in all this.

dragonchild

January 3rd, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^

People made a big deal about Mullen being a yankee and working there, but they always leave out that he'd been an OC at Florida for years and had plenty of time to acclimate culturally.

Florida is way more diverse than Mississippi.  Yankees in Florida are hardly exotic (FFS it's God's Waiting Room for Northeasterners), and he wasn't the boss.  I don't think the situations are comparable.

I'd say the biggest culprit for why that went south though is they never fully understood how good they had it with Mullen and thought they could plug someone in and get the same results.

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Mpfnfu Ford

January 3rd, 2020 at 6:50 PM ^

Florida is way more diverse than Mississippi.  Yankees in Florida are hardly exotic (FFS it's God's Waiting Room for Northeasterners), and he wasn't the boss.  I don't think the situations are comparable.

I'm talking more the kids on the team. Florida doesn't/didn't just recruit kids in state, they had kids from the gulf region/Atlanta. He spent years in an SEC program recruiting kids in the south and coaching them/being around them/relating to them. It seems like whatever it is Moorhead was doing was absolutely not clicking with the kids on that team, multiple locals talking about massive discipline issues and tune outs. I wonder if it was just culture shock for him. The players on the  team aren't all from Mississippi. If he had that much problem relating to players from the deep south and such, I can only imagine how he handled the backwoods incest creep alumni.