OT: Grinnell College attempts 111 3s in a game

Submitted by iawolve on December 9th, 2022 at 1:58 PM

For those of you not familiar, Grinnell is in the middle of Iowa and middle of nowhere (can say this from firsthand knowledge of the town), but they keep it interesting in terms of their MBB team. They were 40 of 111, heating up to shoot over 50% in the second half to come away with a 124-67 win. Honestly not as impressive as when they scored 258 points in the early 90s which is bonkers. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35218351/grinnell-college-sets-ncaa-record-111-3-point-shots-game

gobluem

December 9th, 2022 at 2:02 PM ^

I feel like to count as an NCAA record it should be against an NCAA team, not some random bible college that is a member of the Midwest Christian College Conference 

 

I don't think many of their records are terribly impressive given the relative competition level

 

We played Grinnell in football and it's one thing to play mediocre D3 competition. But these bible colleges are just horrible teams. We were terrible at football and beat the crap out of them

tybert

December 10th, 2022 at 12:36 PM ^

I loved Steve Fisher's coaching style at UM but felt this was his absolute worst coaching job in any game. We had Rumeal and Higgins who could have been paired together to break the press, then slow it down and post up Mills and Vaught, like he did later with double posts for Webber and Juwan. LMU had no strong big guy inside to stop us. Almost how like we've learned that ground and pound (instead of trying speed in space) vs. Ohio is a better strategy in football.

We would have advanced to the Elite 8 but probably lost to UNLV, though close. They had a couple of tight games vs. Ohio and Ball State before crushing LMU.

That UNLV was one of the best I've ever seen. 

Flying Dutchman

December 9th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^

In the 90s I was a pretty solid high school player (All City with all kinds of D2 & D3 opportunities) that was sometimes known to attempt 15 3's in a single game, which was often more than the entire team.

How the hell did I not know about Grinnell?  Missed my time.  

Amazinblu

December 9th, 2022 at 2:27 PM ^

ia, I’ve been to Grinnell.  It’s a great school - one of the strongest Liberal Arts colleges in the Midwest and country.  Great facilities for a school of that size.

And, 3’s is their strategy in hoops.

L'Carpetron Do…

December 9th, 2022 at 2:28 PM ^

HEY - Grinnell is the "Jewel of the Prairie"!  Great little small town, roughly 40 mins to Des Moines, about the same to Iowa City/Cedar Rapids. There are many more places in Iowa that are more "middle of nowhere" than Grinnell. It's right on I-80!  Excellent school, too!

Qmatic

December 9th, 2022 at 2:41 PM ^

I remember when Southern beat Champion Baptist about 10 years ago by more than 100, that a vast amount of Champion players didn’t even play on a HS team.

I have seen more talented public middle schools than some of these Bible colleges 

Amazinblu

December 9th, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^

Not to get too political, but.. if you think attempting 111 three pointers is interesting.  Visit Iowa the week before the Presidential Caucuses take place.

rice4114

December 9th, 2022 at 7:06 PM ^

Little known fun fact:

Glen Rice had a fling with Sarah Palin while at the Great Alaska Shootout.

Further solidifying his reputation of someone known to bang 3s.

Ill be here all week.

Yeoman

December 10th, 2022 at 11:49 PM ^

The way I remember this originating...

Grinnell did not have a winning season in the 70s or 80s. The head coach decided they needed to do something different from everyone else, and tried a fairly extreme (well, that's what he thought at the time) uptempo offense. Fatigue was a problem, the players didn't like it, they voted to slow things down. So the next year they tried t use the whole clock every possession (it was 45 seconds back then). That didn't work either.

The next year he put it to a vote. (1) crank things up to an even more extreme tempo, or (2) never vote again. They went with (1); the coach came up with a plan:

  • To avoid fatigue he split the team into three groups of five who would substitute like hockey lines. One group's on the court, another is waiting at the scorer's table, the third has just come off and is sitting on the bench.
  • At least half of their shots (usually more) would be from three. The ideal possession is two passes and a shot, with people crashing the boards and often passing back to the three point line if they get an offensive rebound. If they give up a fast break the other way they don't care, as long as they don't give up any threes. Whoever's back defends the three point line.
  • The weirdest thing to me--I certainly never played for anyone that thought about this, but who knows, maybe it's caught on now?--is that they practice taking the ball out of the basket after a made shot. Catch it as quickly as you can coming out of the net, step out of bounds and immediately pivot to throw a long chest pass to players waiting at predesignated spots. Second pass is to the three point line, shot goes up, crash the boards. Over and over, 60-70 times a half. Defense is a maniacal press, turnover or layup, just no threes. You're coming out at the next dead ball so there's no reason to ever lift the pedal from the floor.

Ultimately, to the extent it works it relies on exhausting the opponent, who probably doesn't have 15 players ready to run hockey shifts. I've seen them play a few times (Chicago was in the MWC when I was there) and everyone's already holding their shorts five minutes in. By halftime it looks like the end of a cross country race. I didn't realize how important that was to their system until ESPN put one of their games on TV...and it didn't work at all. The media time outs were enough time for the other team to recover, and they were never really able to get on a run.

maquih

December 11th, 2022 at 10:18 AM ^

The weirdest thing to me--I certainly never played for anyone that thought about this, but who knows, maybe it's caught on now?--is that they practice taking the ball out of the basket after a made shot

Never played competitive basketball but been to a couple random practices and one of the coaches did this.  Not necessarily the whole designated spots across the court, but emphasizing getting the ball from under the basket turning around and restarting play as quickly as possible, the point guard got yelled at if he wasn't sprinting to the inbounder.