OT - Dan Hawkins Canned
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5783419
I'm pretty sure we all saw it coming, but it's a good reminder of how much worse things could be. No Big 12 road wins since 2007...at Baylor. Four straight losing seasons, and lastly, blowing a 28 point lead this past week at Kansas. I'm just thankful we don't have him.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:06 AM ^
at halftime. I can't believe that. I really can't.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
Makes complete sense if your guys are playing frantic and tight football and making mistakes.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
They weren't though. They were throttling Kansas at halftime. It was the last 11 minutes that did them in.
November 9th, 2010 at 3:28 PM ^
The best part is that a Toney Clemons (remember me?) fumble was returned for a TD to cut the lead to seven. Karma's a bitch.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:08 AM ^
Dan Hawkins - forcing sportswriters to come up with a new #1 coach on the hotseat. He's the Wade Phillips of college football.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:09 AM ^
if it hurt the Colorado wallets that much to can him, where are they going to find the cash for his replacement?
November 9th, 2010 at 10:15 AM ^
Colorado has some serious debt, they're buying their freedom from the B12 and now the Hawkins buyout. Either some donors have come up big or they're borrowing against future PAC10 revenue I guess.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:16 AM ^
and the payout they have to make to the BIG12.
hope that PAC12 tv network has been talking to Rotel for CU's sake.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:11 AM ^
More importantly, will the new coach have a son who plays QB? I heard that's a requirement for consideration.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:13 AM ^
November 9th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^
At what point do we start a Dantonio watch-list? By that I mean when does he start getting job offers at places like Colorado (or Tennessee?) and would MSU be willing to match those offers?
November 9th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^
i can't imagine him going to a PAC12 school, seems like a step down, at best lateral move.
a top SEC team? i can see that, but it would have to be one of the elites like UT of UGA. unfortunately for UM, i see him at MSU for a while, at least until Tressel is gone and then....
November 9th, 2010 at 10:23 AM ^
Maybe a UCLA, USC or Washington job. Or Colorado in the 1990s. Not Colorado now.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
Don Treadwell may be a candidate for a job like Colorado. They will need to start over and bet on their new status in the PAC 12 to help guide them to a new pipeline of California recruits.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:20 PM ^
Wherever he ends up, they have to have a first rate parole system in place.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:04 PM ^
His move will be SEC just like Satan's. I have a feeling that UGA will be looking for a new coach at the end of the year and Dantonio's philosophy of 2nd, 3rd, & 4th chances fits in fine with the SEC.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:22 AM ^
Would a cash strapped, average institution like Colorado really be an upgrade over a place like State?
I dislike State as much as the next person on here, but Dantonio seems to have a pretty good track record around these parts and I don't see him leaving until Mr. Tressel leaves osu... I think he's going to hold out for that job. Unless a Tennessee does come along.
But not Colorado. lol.
November 9th, 2010 at 11:09 AM ^
I agree 100%. The Izzo situation this past summer showed that the MSU AD knows how to manage these situations, and the fanbase has done well to circle the wagons when the rumors start to fly. From the coaches' perspectives, it probably helps that Izzo and Dantonio are treated as gods due to their recent success versus UM. I can't imagine that MSU is going to be a stepping stone for the Sabans of the world any longer, at least not in the near future. Even though I tend to think that this year's MSU football record is a bit of an outlier, it seems that their athletic department as a whole has risen due to the success of the basketball team, and it's hard to a coach wanting to jump ship when the ceiling hasn't been reached yet.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:32 PM ^
At what point do we start a Dantonio watch-list?
Never. He's not a top-notch coach, despite what some of our frightened fans think. He's in his mid 50s and is almost certainly at his final school.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^
When will it be DickRod's turn to get shitcanned?
November 9th, 2010 at 10:53 AM ^
douche.
November 9th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
I believe his name is Rich
November 9th, 2010 at 11:29 AM ^
Ha - Dick/Rod... the two words are related and you used them in a sentence to describe the coach, whose name also happens to be similar to the words dick and rod. You are so clever.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:35 PM ^
Really classy. I suppose every fanbase has to put up with ass clowns like you.
November 9th, 2010 at 5:56 PM ^
November 9th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^
November 9th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
Some of the small school coaches will have found themselves in a good situation which they can't replicate, due to lucky recruiting or a good staff. Others are the real deal.
It's just not always easy to tell in advance.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^
The other view is how much of Hawkins success at Boise State was due to having Petersen around as the OC? Also, given the fact that not only Hawkins but also his predecessor at BSU (Dirk Koetter) failed miserably when they moved to relatively decent programs, it might give a school a reason to pause before looking at Chris Petersen as an automatic upgrade to their program.
That being said, hiring a coach from a successful non-BCS school in the mountains seems to have worked out pretty well for Florida.
November 9th, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^
Boise was an established program with a full roster when Hawkins left and they play in the WAC. Colorado was a total mess and they play in the B12. It is surprising Hawkins was not able to make more progress than he did, but it is a much tougher project to rebuild CO than just roll with Boise with your toughest games being one Pac 10 team and Nevada or Hawaii every year.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:20 PM ^
The Hawk was never really a football "coach" and was always more of a football administrator. Under Koetter, he was the rah, rah guy and handled all the stuff like event/fundraiser/charity organization. He had the role of "assistant head coach" but he never had an X's and O's background at the D-1 level. He inherited a strong program and went 8-4 in year one, then hired Petersen (who I think has proven to be an extremely strong X's and O's coach) and the program took a big step up (three straight one loss seasons and four straight conference titles).
I think CU fans started to second guess the success when they saw how BSU continued to win and even improved after he left (Petersen has only lost 4 games in nearly five full seasons in Boise). Most seemed to be willing to give Hawkins a chance to rebuild, but when year four rolled around and they weren't any better than when he'd arrived (they went 3-9), most had completely lost faith in the guy. He got yet another shot because of the financial situation at the school and needless to say it hasn't gone well this year.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
This is telling, as they say:
"Hawkins took heat for having his quarterback son, Cody, throwing the ball in the fourth quarter when running out the clock with a big lead was in order."
Nepotism is never a good thing, which is why I hope Penn State makes JayPa the next head coach.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^
I think Greg Schiano just spit up his morning coffee reading that entry.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^
Speaking with the Alums and fans much more familiar with the program than I, PSU's next coach is universally expected to be Al Golden from Temple. He's a former PSU Player, been coaching since 1994, still friendly with the PSU, and has turned around a miserable Temple using the PSU blueprint.
He's young and fits the mold for a university that likes to keep coaches around a very long time.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^
runs the spread offense... just for toney clemons :)
November 9th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
Did Colorado's AD tell Hawkins to go coach intramurals, brother?
November 9th, 2010 at 11:23 AM ^
Its Big 12 Football baby, if you dont like it go play intramurals
November 9th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
Not so much in basketball either (see Depaul)
Ray Meyer: 724 -324
Joey Meyer 231 - 158
November 9th, 2010 at 10:36 AM ^
EDIT: disregard was beaten to the joke.
November 9th, 2010 at 10:38 AM ^
I couldn't believe it hadn't been mentioned yet, either (and only beat you by a few minutes).
November 9th, 2010 at 11:06 AM ^
Current players hope this means the triumphant return of Bill McCartney('s daughter).
November 9th, 2010 at 11:08 AM ^
HA! I saw what you did there.
November 9th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^
November 9th, 2010 at 12:01 PM ^
The three candidates I have heard mentioned so far are Bill McCartney (he is said to be lobbying hard to come back, but he is 70), Eric Bieniemy and Mike Leach.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:28 PM ^
I hear Tim Brewster is looking for a job.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^
One Leslie Miles has mentioned how much he loved Boulder. Plus, CU can use some of that devil's magic after Hawkins' nepotism and Barnett's mistreatment of the female kicker.
November 9th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^
He never should have told that one kid to play intramurals. That kid could have been the answer.