OT - Dan Hawkins Canned

Submitted by jcgold on

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5783419

I'm pretty sure we all saw it coming, but it's a good reminder of how much worse things could be.  No Big 12 road wins since 2007...at Baylor.  Four straight losing seasons, and lastly, blowing a 28 point lead this past week at Kansas.  I'm just thankful we don't have him.

Beavis

November 9th, 2010 at 10:08 AM ^

Dan Hawkins - forcing sportswriters to come up with a new #1 coach on the hotseat.  He's the Wade Phillips of college football. 

evenyoubrutus

November 9th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^

At what point do we start a Dantonio watch-list?  By that I mean when does he start getting job offers at places like Colorado (or Tennessee?) and would MSU be willing to match those offers?

IdealistWolverine

November 9th, 2010 at 10:22 AM ^

Would a cash strapped, average institution like Colorado really be an upgrade over a place like State?

I dislike State as much as the next person on here, but Dantonio seems to have a pretty good track record around these parts and I don't see him leaving until Mr. Tressel leaves osu... I think he's going to hold out for that job.  Unless a Tennessee does come along.

But not Colorado. lol.

jerfgoke

November 9th, 2010 at 11:09 AM ^

I agree 100%. The Izzo situation this past summer showed that the MSU AD knows how to manage these situations, and the fanbase has done well to circle the wagons when the rumors start to fly. From the coaches' perspectives, it probably helps that Izzo and Dantonio are treated as gods due to their recent success versus UM. I can't imagine that MSU is going to be a stepping stone for the Sabans of the world any longer, at least not in the near future. Even though I tend to think that this year's MSU football record is a bit of an outlier, it seems that their athletic department as a whole has risen due to the success of the basketball team, and it's hard to a coach wanting to jump ship when the ceiling hasn't been reached yet.

Buccaneer_9

November 9th, 2010 at 5:56 PM ^

Ahhh...it feels good to be back into the negative integers. That's my way of differentiating myself from all of the Kool-Aid drinkers on this site. Dick won't be at Michigan for long. Thankfully Dave Brandon is a businessman and will approach Dick's future like that of any other failed employee.

Tha Quiet Storm

November 9th, 2010 at 10:19 AM ^

How does one have so much success at Boise then so little at a bigger program? This seemed like a perfect fit - weak division, dominant school in the state, a pretty good tradition. This makes me wonder if guys like Petersen or Patterson would do any better with bigger jobs if given the opportunity.

befuggled

November 9th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^

Some of the small school coaches will have found themselves in a good situation which they can't replicate, due to lucky recruiting or a good staff. Others are the real deal.

It's just not always easy to tell in advance.

detrocks

November 9th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^

The other view is how much of Hawkins success at Boise State was due to having Petersen around as the OC?    Also, given the fact that not only Hawkins but also his predecessor at BSU (Dirk Koetter) failed miserably when they moved to relatively decent programs, it might give a school a reason to pause before looking at Chris Petersen as an automatic upgrade to their program.

That being said, hiring a coach from a successful non-BCS school in the mountains seems to have worked out pretty well for Florida.

psychomatt

November 9th, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^

Boise was an established program with a full roster when Hawkins left and they play in the WAC. Colorado was a total mess and they play in the B12. It is surprising Hawkins was not able to make more progress than he did, but it is a much tougher project to rebuild CO than just roll with Boise with your toughest games being one Pac 10 team and Nevada or Hawaii every year.

PurpleStuff

November 9th, 2010 at 4:20 PM ^

The Hawk was never really a football "coach" and was always more of a football administrator.  Under Koetter, he was the rah, rah guy and handled all the stuff like event/fundraiser/charity organization.  He had the role of "assistant head coach" but he never had an X's and O's background at the D-1 level.  He inherited a strong program and went 8-4 in year one, then hired Petersen (who I think has proven to be an extremely strong X's and O's coach) and the program took a big step up (three straight one loss seasons and four straight conference titles). 

I think CU fans started to second guess the success when they saw how BSU continued to win and even improved after he left (Petersen has only lost 4 games in nearly five full seasons in Boise).  Most seemed to be willing to give Hawkins a chance to rebuild, but when year four rolled around and they weren't any better than when he'd arrived (they went 3-9), most had completely lost faith in the guy.  He got yet another shot because of the financial situation at the school and needless to say it hasn't gone well this year.

Don

November 9th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^

This is telling, as they say:

"Hawkins took heat for having his quarterback son, Cody, throwing the ball in the fourth quarter when running out the clock with a big lead was in order."

Nepotism is never a good thing, which is why I hope Penn State makes JayPa the next head coach.

Steve in PA

November 9th, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^

Speaking with the Alums and fans much more familiar with the program than I, PSU's next coach is universally expected to be Al Golden from Temple.  He's a former PSU Player, been coaching since 1994, still friendly with the PSU, and has turned around a miserable Temple using the PSU blueprint.

He's young and fits the mold for a university that likes to keep coaches around a very long time.

psychomatt

November 9th, 2010 at 12:01 PM ^

The three candidates I have heard mentioned so far are Bill McCartney (he is said to be lobbying hard to come back, but he is 70), Eric Bieniemy and Mike Leach.

Ben from SF

November 9th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^

One Leslie Miles has mentioned how much he loved Boulder.  Plus, CU can use some of that devil's magic after Hawkins' nepotism and Barnett's mistreatment of the female kicker.