OT: CONCACAF - USA vs. Mexico Match Thread

Submitted by aMaizenBlueinNoir on March 24th, 2022 at 9:57 PM

After watching Eli Brooks' last game, I needed something to turn to. Who wins on the pitch tonight? If USMNT can pull it off, it'll ease my sting until I can watch Naz and the Lady Wolverines later this weekend. 

Hab

March 24th, 2022 at 10:09 PM ^

USA USA USA chant quickly drowned out by boos from the home crowd.  

And USA playing a really, really aggressive press in the Mexican third...

Hab

March 24th, 2022 at 10:23 PM ^

There's the Yedlin touch I've been thankful to not watch at Newcastle.

Has it always been the USA gameplan to give up the midfield and just play a longball from the defense up to the forwards?  

brad

March 25th, 2022 at 12:35 AM ^

I'll answer.  For the most part since about 1994, yes.  Usually almost no midfield game.  Although several years ago there was a stint in which the team had a legit ability to pass through the midfield, which I believe has now passed.

Hab

March 24th, 2022 at 10:47 PM ^

This defense to forward thing is driving me nuts, especially since we're playing with two wing backs who are supposed to be bombing up the field.  You have to work through the midfield to activate those two, otherwise they just get sucked up and leave space behind them to get exploited.  

DoubleB

March 24th, 2022 at 10:54 PM ^

USMNT played a solid half. I haven't seen Mexico this cycle and they . . . aren't very good. 

Everyone thought US would play for the tie. Maybe Mexico is. They have two eliminated teams to close the Octagonal.

mfan_in_ohio

March 24th, 2022 at 11:07 PM ^

Panama was do or die at home against Honduras and couldn’t pull it off. A draw tonight and against Panama locks up at least 4th, and another draw at Costa Rica would lock up 3rd. A win over Panama locks up 3rd as well as long as we don’t lose to Costa Rica by a shit ton.

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 24th, 2022 at 11:48 PM ^

How much are we talking? Truly interested.  I know I can go Google this, sorry.  For a field goal, we're talking what, 3-6 yards depending on the kicker?  That's a hunch.  So yea I imagine it has an affect on certain long balls but is it something truly making an impact for a team not from said altitude?  Unless a bunch of shots are launched from far out how many balls are affected in a match?

mfan_in_ohio

March 25th, 2022 at 12:23 AM ^

There’s about 20% less air density in Mexico City, so the drag force is reduced by the same amount. That can be a big deal for a baseball leaving the bat at over 100 mph, or maybe add a few yards to a goal kick, but I don’t know how much it truly impacts a soccer game.
 

The bigger impact might be less bend on shots and crosses (much like you get less curve break at Coors). it has to be a little harder to get a free kick over a wall and down into the goal.
 

jmblue

March 25th, 2022 at 11:30 AM ^

In Denver, it's said that a ball can travel about 10% further than at sea level.

The bigger effect of altitude is on your fitness level.  If your body isn't acclimated, you get tired faster because of the lower oxygen density in the air.  It only takes a few days to acclimate though (your body starts producing more red blood cells), and once you are, when you go back down to sea level and compete, you feel extra energetic.

Lou MacAdoo

March 24th, 2022 at 11:36 PM ^

I love watching this team. There’s so much more talented than they used to be but gosh do they struggle to finish at the striker position. Can they bring Dempsey out of retirement? How can they not have a capable striker?