OT: Cal Berkeley Study Finds Athletes Respond Better to Fiery v Upbeat Halftime Speeches
Thought the group might find Cal's study interesting as coaching styles are forever compared and contrasted.
It found that even though the teams responded better after an "angry" speech that fueled emotion, if there was too much anger and criticism, it reached a point beyond which it became detrimental.
Clearly there are many on this blog who have been coached in many different styles, and I know that we've all likely needed a fire lit under us at times (even when we're doing well), but thought it might be interesting to hear the perspectives of our resident athletes and coaches on this as well.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:00 PM ^
Where's Buddy Stephens when you need him?
August 19th, 2019 at 9:37 PM ^
This is for coaches not clown divas.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:43 AM ^
Does anybody know who gave the speech in 1982 when Cal ran back the last second kickoff through the Stanford Band to win on The Play?
August 19th, 2019 at 11:48 PM ^
"Ya'll are playin' like FUCK!"
August 19th, 2019 at 9:04 PM ^
So... should start bringing in the presidential candidates for the halftime speeches?
August 19th, 2019 at 9:26 PM ^
“It’s ridiculous that the 1% of the 1% have more 5 stars than the bottom 99%!”
August 19th, 2019 at 11:23 PM ^
Who cares
August 19th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^
I think this is interesting and likely holds true for a violent sport, but my intuition tells me that this is not a transferable strategy for building/inspiring teams in other realms (science, business, medicine, education, etc.).
August 19th, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^
Depends. If you are practicing shitbird science, business or medicine, it can't hurt if someone tells you to your face.
August 19th, 2019 at 11:11 PM ^
Even then there's a chasmic difference between "can't hurt" and "can maximally facilitate greatness."
August 20th, 2019 at 9:55 AM ^
Also, part of being a good coach is recognizing which kind of speech your team needs to hear. Just because a fiery speech is more frequently better, doesn't that it always is. And coaches need to identify that and adjust accordingly.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:50 PM ^
True, much like the USMC leadership style does not fit the union shop! Much hurt feelings are known to be had!
August 19th, 2019 at 9:12 PM ^
I gave it my all no matter what I didn’t need someone to come coach me up. I barely listened to them anyways.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:17 PM ^
Cool bro.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:28 PM ^
I bet. Chess doesn’t need a lot of halftime adjustments.
August 20th, 2019 at 7:50 AM ^
He was a chessboxer, Qmatic. Don't hate.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:12 PM ^
If we were losing pretty badly, I preferred a fiery, yet not demeaning speech.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:26 PM ^
Yep. As soon as it turns toward demeaning specific people, I imagine it crosses the line from effective to demoralizing.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Halftime adjustments followed by a good fiery positive let’s go speech was something my team and I always enjoyed.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:31 PM ^
I had good, fiery speeches from football coaches that turned games around. And I had egotistical, demeaning tirades from basketball coaches that made the team no longer give a sh**.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:36 PM ^
Did we go to the same high school? My b-ball coach was there for 30+ years and only won 2 districts even though he had the talent to win 15-20. Dude had the nerve to ask for the gym to be named after him when he retired.
August 20th, 2019 at 4:31 AM ^
It’s high school basketball. You can just roll the ball out and Winn fin your players are good. He didn’t have have much talent if he only won 2 division titles in 3 decades.
August 20th, 2019 at 7:34 AM ^
Winn fin your playas? Translation Gucci?
August 20th, 2019 at 7:45 AM ^
Lyrics for a new song I won't understand?
August 20th, 2019 at 8:24 AM ^
I was always wondering the story of how Douchebag Court got its name.
August 20th, 2019 at 8:37 AM ^
+1 made me laugh out loud
....subsequent edit...I’m still laughing thinking about it...can you imagine walking into a gym with a big plaque with the history layed out of how the court got named douchbag court
August 19th, 2019 at 9:42 PM ^
Not that I was ever a D1 athlete, but even in HS I always felt more motivated getting our ass chewed than I did the "ra ra, let's try harder" speech.
August 20th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^
....but you did stay in a Holiday Inn Express.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:52 PM ^
Leadership is hard. You can neither demean nor pander to them, because then they won't respect you. And threading the needle in between -- that inspiration sweet spot yielding high amplitude, healthy motivation -- is not a common gift.
August 19th, 2019 at 9:55 PM ^
I think it depends on what's happening in the game. If someone is working hard and the ball just isn't bouncing their way, it would be better to be encouraging. However, if they're playing sloppy, not focused, taking plays off, etc. it would probably be better to be more fiery to wake them up.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:02 PM ^
I have incontrovertible proof that they respond best to speeches that refer to "The Team" in triplicate.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^
No more, no less. Triplicate! 〽️
August 19th, 2019 at 10:09 PM ^
I've listened to (and given, I guess) a lot of halftime speeches, and I've only really seen one extremely negative, kick-in-the-pants speech produce a good second-half performance. Basically, if the coach comes out blaming the players for being stupid or lazy, they'll continue to be stupid and/or lazy in the second half. I was around one coach who was REALLY bad at halftime speeches for several years, and I usually found a reason to avoid the locker room for the halftime speech to avoid the negativity and eyeroll-worthy repetition.
My coaches in high school were pretty good at it...but the guy who was the best at it was kind of a douche in his personal life, as I later found out. That info definitely would have soured my opinion of his speeches if I had known about it in high school.
Anyway, it really annoys me when 40- or 50-year-old men think belittling 16- or 17-year-olds at halftime is going to make them more confident to go out there and overcome a deficit in the second half.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:18 PM ^
Agree totally, Magnus. When I read the article, I would substitute "demeaning" for "extreme anger" that results in diminished returns. I think most good coaches and competitors have a feel for motivational versus demeaning.
August 20th, 2019 at 7:55 AM ^
The difference, that I see, is that the better speech-y types have a good feel for what to change up on the field in the second half. I don't care what speech you give, if you don't figure out something that will work on the field, you're speech isn't going to help much.
Neither demeaning slow-ass Brandon Watson, nor praising his work ethic for trying hard, was going to help him keep up with crossers. Telling him to keep at it until we figure out a better way to help him is about all you can do in that situation.
Unfortunately, there was no better way to help him.
August 20th, 2019 at 8:49 AM ^
The Team. The Team.The Team! ... And when the old season's over, it'll be Michigan again.... MICHIGAN!
Fiery? Inspirational? Motivational?
All of the above!
August 19th, 2019 at 10:16 PM ^
I'm in a performance field and I have to say most of the best performers seen to be motivated by an absolute hatred of screwing up rather than just trying to do your best and having fun.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^
I’m skeptical of any findings when a study has this much subjectivity involved. How do they categorize a speech that starts off fiery but finishes with encouraging words? Or how different individuals express anger. My mom yelled when she was angry. My dad just tensed up and had “the look”. Also, how are they categorizing “improvement” from one half to another. Just scores? A lot of luck could be involved.
Every player is different. I was pretty even keeled regardless of how well or how poor I was playing. When coaches yelled at me, all I could think about was that they seemed irrational and it didn’t make sense for me to listen to someone that couldn’t control their thoughts or emotions. Never gained anything from coaches that tried to pump me up with encouragement either. I liked the coaches that were closer to teachers than your stereotypical intense rah rah coach. Just wanted them to work with me on the game plan and calmly explain the changes they thought I needed to make
August 19th, 2019 at 10:18 PM ^
Yeah!
August 19th, 2019 at 10:25 PM ^
It's an interesting finding, though I'm sure the authors of the study would agree that it's a pretty limited sample (mostly Northern California coaches for a season). That said, it wouldn't surprise me that a focused speech pointing out where improvements needed to be made would be effective. Of course, we also live in a world where Brian Kelly pops blood vessels for 3 hours and Notre Dame continues to win, so who the hell knows.
August 20th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^
I would guess in N Cali, you would need to be very careful what you say and how you say it.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^
In my experience, the most effective coaches, bosses and leaders are the ones who inspire their people to want to give their absolute 100% best for them. If you’re ready to give everything for your leader and because of your leader, then that’s a person who can motivate better than most.
We all have friends like that who we would give everything for, but few of us have coaches or bosses like that. It’s a fine line to have the authority to “make” someone do something and yet inspire them to want to do it with everything they have.
Bottom line is it comes down to real relationships. If you have a coach who’s a jerk (my high school JV Baseball Coach comes to mind), then a tongue-lashing just makes you want to check out and hate them even more. But if that coach is someone you like, care about, and know cares about you - then the same type of speech inspires a completely different response.
I don’t think you can just distill something like this down to a formula of what type of speech works best. The person giving it matters even more, in my experience.
August 19th, 2019 at 10:47 PM ^
Bottom line is it comes down to real relationships. If you have a coach who’s a jerk (my high school JV Baseball Coach comes to mind), then a tongue-lashing just makes you want to check out and hate them even more. But if that coach is someone you like, care about, and know cares about you - then the same type of speech inspires a completely different response.
I think that is pretty spot-on
August 20th, 2019 at 8:28 AM ^
Sadly i did this in the military. My work effort reflected on who was in charge that day/night.
August 19th, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^
They must have looked at Don Brown's face to reach the conclusion:
August 20th, 2019 at 7:00 AM ^
Rumor has it, that in the SEC they respond best to halftime payouts in cash. $$$
August 20th, 2019 at 8:48 AM ^
Or loss of payout (negative incentive)
August 20th, 2019 at 7:25 AM ^
See, “Wolf of Wallstreet.”
August 20th, 2019 at 7:36 AM ^
Rah rah or something like Kurt Russell doing Herb Brooks in Miracle. A classic halftime / between periods speech. Just watched a bunch of docs on the 2017 team on BTN, Don Brown can give a pretty good one too!! Wish it had been on HBO!