OSU goombas at 11W think Michigan is stopping B1G football purposely
What a bunch of fucking loons.
They’ve completely lost cabin pressure. Apparently it’s Schlissel and the MI governor who are threatening to sue the B1G.
Everything in their lives revolve around Michigan.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:32 PM ^
I’m oblivious? That’s rich. Your claims definitely hold far more weight than my own freaking eyes.
You’re right, Portland is awful please don’t ever come here!
August 20th, 2020 at 5:36 PM ^
I think it's probably best you don't view the video as you'd have to believe your own eyes then. Though it could be some right-wing, fake conspiracy video; you could fall back on that assumption. That might work.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:56 PM ^
And here you have a direct resident of Portland refuting what you're trying to insinuate. You should really re-evaluate where you're sourcing your information, RGard.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:59 PM ^
Two residents!
I actually went downtown and took pictures a few weeks ago and posted them on the internet. People did not want to believe it. The city looks completely fine. Some graffiti and some boarded up businesses, oh my!!
Many had envisioned a war zone because that’s what OAN and Fox showed them. They could not be convinced otherwise.
And they call us sheep!
August 20th, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^
Washington Post, New York Times. Both covered it, but the NYT did not show the video.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:06 PM ^
Is the Washington Post too far right for you? That's where I read it.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:18 PM ^
Listen, I freaking live here buddy. All day, every day. So does WW96. We drive through downtown a lot. It doesn’t matter where you get your news from because I see it with my own eyes.
If you want to believe things are awful out here, then go right ahead. Hopefully that means you’ll never come visit or move here. I’d call you a sheep, but that’s your kind of word. I just think you’re full of it.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:23 PM ^
I'm perfectly fine with you trusting your eyes and not the NYT or the Washington Post.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:35 PM ^
And I’m perfectly fine with you keeping my city out of your mouth. You are completely clueless.
I’m done arguing with crazy. Hope you have a great day!
August 20th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^
Portland.
Trying to control what other people write or say? Sorry, doesn't work that way.
Portland.
Your name isn't Marquise Love, is it?
Portland.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:02 PM ^
Haha you’re such a clown.
By the way, your video is a complete strawman. I never said it was fake. I never said there are no bad actors. I never said it’s all made up. Go back and read my posts. I said that the incidents are all confined to a very small area and happen late at night. I said that Portland is 99% safe and untouched. Those things are facts. I know that because I live here and see them every day.
But I guess we should all just believe your nonsense right wing narrative for some reason??
August 20th, 2020 at 6:12 PM ^
It either happened or it didn't. The video is either real or it isn't. It either happened in Portland or it didn't.
Portland.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:16 PM ^
You shouldn't up-vote yourself, RGard. It's poor form.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:20 PM ^
I never miss a chance to do it.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:21 PM ^
BTW, do you consider the Washinton Post to be a right-wing publication?
August 20th, 2020 at 6:24 PM ^
No. When did I say that? You’re just making shit up now.
Do you consider yourself to be right leaning? That’s the only thing I’m claiming, and I’m 99% sure I’m right.
BTW you’re totally owning the libs out here in Portland by disparaging our city on MGoBlog!
August 20th, 2020 at 6:29 PM ^
The question was a response to Timmmaay. The formatting here is bad. Wait for the comments to slide down as folks post on the first page.
Here's a picture. You can see it was a response to the other guy, Timmmaay.
August 20th, 2020 at 7:41 PM ^
No, I do not, to answer your question. Though they have opinion articles like everyone else, and those are a free for all, in general.
edit: oh, and I just saw your post of some completely untrustworthy site (with links back to Breitbart, and other propaganda sites) about the BS new med that Dear Leader is pimping now for the newest pump and dump scheme. You really should be ashamed of yourself, or at least a little embarrassed. You don't seem to be, though.
August 20th, 2020 at 8:05 PM ^
Seems you have an opinion.
August 20th, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^
At least my opinions are formed by real information. Not conspiracy theory BS, and what Drumpf gets up and says at his pep rallies.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:20 PM ^
But what’s you’re point again exactly? I don’t speak QAnon.
August 20th, 2020 at 6:28 PM ^
The point is it happened in Portland. You can't change that. Is the rest of the city safe? Probably is.
In this one part of the city, do you mind the unrest? Do you mind the looting? Do mind the beatings? Yes, that's plural as this isn't the first time there. Do you care about the violence?
A secondary point is: I've demonstrated you can have a discussion on-line without insulting the person with whom you've engaged. Now, that said, I don't mind the insults. I'm all grown up and nothing you could post here would bother me.
There you have it.
August 20th, 2020 at 7:18 PM ^
If I answer all your questions, will you answer some of mine?
For the third time, I have not seen the video which you have based your entire opinion of Portland on. I will take your word for it that it happened in Portland, since it was reported by the WaPo, NYT, and others. I watched a lot of coverage as well, and I never saw the specific situation you are referring too. If it happened as you described, then I unequivocally denounce such behavior. Innocent people should not be attacked on the street.
The point is it happened in Portland. You can't change that. Is the rest of the city safe? Probably is.
I'm not trying to change anything. I never denied your video is real. You're arguing with yourself again. I do, however, appreciate your willingness to accept the the rest of the city is safe, because it most certainly is.
In this one part of the city, do you mind the unrest? Do you mind the looting? Do mind the beatings? Yes, that's plural as this isn't the first time there. Do you care about the violence?
This is a complicated and nuanced situation. I do not mind the majority of people out there who are peacefully protesting. Protesting is a protected right in this country and has directly led to lots of meaningful change throughout our history. I also happen to agree with the reason they are protesting (treatment of BIPOC, excessive police force and brutality, systemic racism). I do not like the looting and the harming of innocent people that is perpetrated by a select number of bad actors, but that does not mean that those peacefully protesting are not allowed to do so. I am also against the violence, but I think that the law enforcement shares much of the blame for how that has escalated many nights. I have a problem with striking and tear gassing unarmed citizens just for standing where you don't want them to.
A secondary point is: I've demonstrated you can have a discussion on-line without insulting the person with whom you've engaged. Now, that said, I don't mind the insults. I'm all grown up and nothing you could post here would bother me.
Fair enough. I called you clueless, crazy, and a clown. I also suggested you watch Fox News and may believe in QAnon. Guilty as charged.
Now it's my turn.
- Where would you say you fall on the political spectrum?
- Do you mind what happened to George Floyd? Do you mind when people are treated as lesser because of the color of their skin?
- Do you mind when federal agents in military outfits without identification arrest people by pulling them into unmarked vans? Do you mind that those people are not charged, and therefore were "arrested" for no reason?
- Do you mind when an unarmed Navy veteran is maced and beaten with a baton for standing in the street? Do you mind when a group of moms (some pregnant) with locked arms are teargassed nightly? Do you mind when volunteer medics, wearing obvious identification, are beaten and thrown down by police while trying to render aid to an unconscious person on the street?
- And finally, can you ever imagine a situation where you might feel the need to protest injustice? If you can imagine that, would you mind being assaulted by police because some other people in the vicinity are breaking the law? Would you mind if people lumped you in with the bad actors, and even used them as evidence that your entire city is bad?
There you have it.
August 20th, 2020 at 8:55 PM ^
Thanks for answering.
Here you go...
Political spectrum: depends on the issue. I have positions some conservatives would call liberal and some positions liberals would call conservative. I'm not registered with any political party. In Virginia it's not required to have a party affiliation to vote in primaries so I have no need to declare.
George Floyd didn't deserve to die for writing a bad check or for any perception the police there might have had that he was resisting arrest. Treated lesser due to color of skin? Of course it's wrong.
Fed agents arresting people without identification? You can be arrested and subsequently not charged. Happens all the time. I don't mind the method and the reality is the agents had identification with them. If they refused to provide it to the people they detained then they need some disciplinary action or retraining. If you find yourself arrested and in an unmarked van, keep your mouth shut except to ask for their identification and your lawyer. That's what I would do.
All the beatings at demonstrations? No, we have the freedom of assembly. It's the First Amendment. As long as it's peaceful, it's legal and a right.
Sure, I can imagine joining a peaceful protest. I've been involved.
In 1979 a bunch of folks were protesting outside the Law Quad in Ann Arbor demanding the CIA and FBI stop recruiting Michigan Law School students. My friends and I stopped and decided to counter protest. The police showed up and told my friends and me to leave. We left.
Organizations I've belonged to have been protested. In 1983 some protesters showed up at North Hall (ROTC building then, it's gone now) demanding ROTC be disbanded at Michigan. A few of us went outside to see what the commotion was about. Figured it out and yelled back that they all needed haircuts. The USMC Colonel who was the senior officer in the cadre there came outside too and told us to get our butts back in the building. We complied.
I once was on the receiving end of my own personal protest. While walking home in uniform from my ROTC lab class a couple of folks decided to give me a hard time calling me a fascist and baby killer. I stopped, smiled told them to have a nice day and walked away.
Sometime in the early 2000s my mother and her blind friend decided they wanted to attend a pro-choice rally in DC and asked if they could stay at our place in northern VA. We said sure. If you don't know, the best way to visit DC for a protest is to drive to the closest metro station, park your car there and ride the metro to the city. This really wasn't practical for my mother and friend navigating that and the temps were going to be in the 90s so I volunteered to drive them down and back. My wife was working so I had to take our 3 kids with me. So on my birthday, I drove my mother and her friend to an abortion rally with my kids in tow. Saw Gloria Allred, Eleanor Holmes Norton and Whoopi Goldberg. Got some weird looks from some of the attendees though. Maybe they thought I was using my kids as a counter protest or something. Nope, was just there for mom to exercise her 1st Amendment rights.
To your last point, if you are protesting and some of the crowd goes violent, there's probably no upside to sticking around. So if you find yourself between the police and the violent types, you need to find your exit. The situation is already volatile and you are then in danger. Situational awareness is paramount. If you can't exit and you end up on the wrong end of the police baton or tear gas, record what you can and file a complaint.
August 20th, 2020 at 10:43 PM ^
Thank you for answering as well. We clearly have some fundamental differences in our beliefs (which probably aren’t changing tonight), but I do appreciate you giving thorough and thoughtful responses.
The only thing I would request is that, in the future, you try to avoid judging an entire city, citizenry, and movement by a handful of events.
In return, I’ll try to avoid using insults, even when in an argument.
I hope you and yours stay safe and well. Peace!
August 20th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
Fair enough.
To be clear I never commented condemning the entire movement. I only condemned the ones committing violence. Originally, all I asked was for the first Portland person to be safe. Never once stated the entire city was a riot.
You have a good rest of the evening.
August 20th, 2020 at 11:14 PM ^
“Portland? Yikes!” was what you said actually. And you spent the whole afternoon arguing with me because I said Portland was a safe and wonderful city. But like I said, there is no convincing you of anything and vice versa. No point to even trying.
August 20th, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
Ok, maybe you could decide that means the entire city, but it wasn't intended that way. Your counter point was to dismiss the video even going so far as to ask for a link. You were expecting a link from a conservative news/entertainment outlet so you could dismiss it as propaganda, but instead you were told it was the Washington Post and the NYT.
That's where the incident occurred. The beating is horrific. That said, I believe you that the rest of the is safe and a great place to live.
August 20th, 2020 at 2:15 PM ^
Great story, I couldn't care any less what 11 idiots think the reason why our program is taking the route of safety first.
That said, yeah, I'm sure they are favored this year if we play, but so were they in '69 when we kicked their asses.
August 20th, 2020 at 2:34 PM ^
These are probably the same dudes who think COVID is fake, or at worst curable by contact with My Pillow. Nevermind that both Michigan's AD and head football coach are vocal supporters of playing football this fall.
August 20th, 2020 at 2:44 PM ^
if you were from Ohio wouldn't you be obsessed with Michigan too?
August 20th, 2020 at 2:56 PM ^
They are obsessed with UM. But, it seems to be an effective strategy for winning football games.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:02 PM ^
Predictable.
OSU really should just join the SEC. It's a much better cultural fit.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
Who cares what they think?
August 20th, 2020 at 3:06 PM ^
That's 2% more than our players, apparently.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:10 PM ^
didn't the OSU president vote Not to have a season (12-2 vote iirc)? If he in on the conspiracy too?
Or is he at the bottom of the Ohio river too along with the lawyer who outed Tressel now?
August 20th, 2020 at 3:16 PM ^
They got screwed in CFP last year and now they can’t play because of Covid. It warms my cotton picking maize and blue heart to see those bastards suffer. Or to put it more compassionately, Fuck Ohio State very much. As much as I will miss the season, their pain mitigates mine.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^
They should join QAnon. University of Michigan Is at the head of the cabal that ingeniously will cancel our football season just to prevent OSU from beating us or playing for a National Championship. Our oracle had foreseen their victories this year and this was our best way to prevent it.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^
I love that they're so deranged that this is driving them crazy. Are they not aware that there is a RAGING PANDEMIC killing people around the country every single day? To these creeps, there is nothing more important than football and that's sad. If not a major national tragedy, then what will convince them that football is a game and not important.
Detroit Buckeye had a similarly horrible take yesterday. He said it was sad that Michigan fans don't love the sport and our team and coaches enough. This shit is embarassing. Believe me, I'm a true Buckeye-gut-hating Michigan fan and there's nothing I'd like more than to beat the weird eyebrows off of Ryan Day's smug face. But guess what? It might have to wait a year. During times of crisis, we have to put childish things - games - aside.
Fuck Every Buckeye.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
osu fans don’t love their team. They hate us first second and third and then fourth love their team.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
Promoting his Tik Tok platform pretty much takes care of the credibility issue. To be fair a few 11w posters called this jackass out as well.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
Appreciate the acknowledgement that not everyone who roots for a team subscribes to the same "group think".. it was an idiot fan that posted an even larger idiot's hot take on an 11W forum post. I've seen a few, ahem, similar idiot threads posted on MGo as well. There are morons in every fan base... and OSU has a very large fan base.
August 20th, 2020 at 3:55 PM ^
It's the wasteland between Pittsburgh and Ann Arbor.
The countryside is beautiful down near Cincy. I'll give them that.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
I mean, it's Eleven Warriors - if you started a rumor that a shortage of Campbell's Cream Of Mushroom soup was responsible for the ultimate cancellation of the Big Ten football slate, they would descend on Camden, New Jersey and level their headquarters. They are just that sort of group.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
Let them think whatever they want. And let them have their covid-parties so we have fewer of them to deal with in the future.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^
I made the mistake of reading their comments. Evidently, some of their fans honestly believe that one of the reasons why "Michigan is okay with canceling the season" is because "they want Harbaugh out" and if there is no season he will "go back to the NFL".
August 20th, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
I can think of other B1G schools who voted against FB this season: Northwestern, IL, MD, Rutgers, even sparty.
August 20th, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Schissel, who literally said (well, paraphrasing slightly) "we're more likely than not to make it through the semester with in-person classes"? This is what happens when people buy into internet trolls and don't use some common sense.
Schissel is already taking risks trying to milk the student body of their money, I'm sure he'd be happy to get any revenue out of football that he can.
Whitmer is a politician. No way she wants to be seen as blocking football when other people are already doing it. She's almost certainly not involved in these decisions.
These OSU fans are just buying into the social media trolls and their BS clickbait storylines. As pointed out above, these storylines don't even make sense, yet people will repeat them like fact because some yahoo on twitter acts like they have "inside info" and can somehow produce a 50 page summary of what's supposedly happening behind the scenes.
August 20th, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
Exact Schissel quote:
"I think it’s more likely than not that we will make it through the semester."
First of all, that's a huge lie.
Secondly, this is the guy that's blocking football? He's supposedly ok exposing the student body to COVID, but is going guns-a-blazin' to stop football from happening? That would make zero sense.
August 20th, 2020 at 7:16 PM ^
He has wiggle room with "more likely than not". He doesn't want people taking a gap year and not mailing the university suitcases full of money.
If they shut things down after the day or week after when a student can disenroll and get the full tuition paid back, then you know this was a total scam.