Oregon-Oregon State game will no longer be called "Civil War"
I'm for everything going on right now in terms of racial equality, but making false equivalencies like this plus the "gator bait" thing for Florida does nothing. "Civil War" is a broad term that has nothing to do with race. There have been hundreds of civil wars in history and to me it seems kind of ridiculous that one of the two institutions of higher learning couldn't point this out. But that's just me.
Why do you care what they do?
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Fine. Florida/Georgia changed the name of the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party years ago. It didn't affect anyone's life whatsoever.
Moving on.
I think we have entered the time frame when the name of Fuddruckers starts evolving.....
Cue Axl Rose
"Oregon don't need your civil war"
Whatever they want to call it is sort of up to them, so I don't see the harm if there was a push to rename it. The fact a bunch of people on a Michigan blog seem offended by this name change is interesting, but then again I got annoyed by Tom Brady practicing despite being advised against it while quoting Winston Churchill and drinking water in an Instagram post, so maybe we're all just a bit too on edge.
I thought it was an FDR quote, which made it doubly ironic due to his polio?
Nobody cares about that rivalry unless they’re an Oregon State fan
I am old enough to remember when the Oklahoma vs Texas game was called the Red River Shootout. What a joke. Movie PCU is coming true.
The civil war never happened? They already took down the statue of a soldier who died to end slavery.
Yeah. This is just stupid. Agree with op.
however, if changing the name of a silly college football rivalry is the cost of FINALLY removing traitorous propaganda from our public spaces, it’s a price worth paying. Never understood how that’s condoned by the freedom loving, “patriotic” contingent in our society.
Death Valley is kind of offensive. Take action LSU!
And Clemson too (but mainly just because they stole it, along with their fight song, from LSU)!
The Big House is also a slang term for U.S. jails which are fundamentally some of the most violent and systemically racist places in the world.
All in favor of changing Michigan Stadium's nickname to The Pretty, Pretty, Pretty Good House?
the 'big' house is a wolf whistle for fat shaming, long overdue to get rid of that.
My grandfather was a big Civil War aficionado, but, I believe, he was a fan of the North, which made it sort of a cool hobby. But it seems a lot of the people putting up confederate statues and flying confederate flags are really pissed about the outcome of the Civil War and want slavery, Jim Crow or whatever back. There are no two sides, agree to disagree to the civil war. The good guys won. In general I think the de-fetishization of the Civil War and the confederacy is good.
That said, I was very close to naming one of my sons William Tecumseh Sherman.
I maintain to this day a WT Sherman imposter should have carried the Olympic torch to open the games in ‘96
I was just at Gettysburg today. Such a powerful place and so many lessons to learn from that war. I don't understand trying to erase history as if it didn't happen.
Yea this seems kinda silly and unnecessary and I’m a “Libtard”.
Right there with you OP
GOOD GRIEF!!!!! Can we all just see who can OUT WOKE the other? Im sick of all it..
The big house is offensive to people that have small houses. The liberal world. What a joke.
Says the guy super upset about changing the nickname of a college football game.
It’s not just this, it’s everything the woke fucking pussies are canceling because their feelings get hurt by fucking everything.
What exactly is getting cancelled that has you so very upset?
No answer, just down votes. Oh the irony.
cancelling
Why argue against changing of an informal name of a game like “Civil War?” I mean, my god, do you REALLY want to advocate FOR that name? Is it truly that important to you for that name to remain? GTFO. “Tradition” is such bullshit.
Loggers vs. Joggers it is
Ducks vs Chucks?
Yep, the over-correction is upon us. This is foolish, just as tearing down statues of explorers from 500 years ago seemed pointless to me. IMO, The focus should be on now and the recent past and intellectually honest.
As the OP said, Civil War is a generic term for any war between citizens of the same country, location, tribe, etc.
To defeat systemic racism the focus should be on the remnants and inequalities still prevalent from Jim Crow policies (with its roots in slavery), racial inequalities in the criminal justice system, taking down monuments to confederate heroes (most of which were put up well after the Civil War to intimidate blacks) and how we can fix inequalities around housing, healthcare, education, employment, etc.
Much to my dismay, the left is going to hand Trump this election on a platter if they continue on this path.
I've been told Paul Bunyan has a shady past. We might want to address that trophy we play for with MSU.
Don't even tempt some perpetual whine ass.
Not a good idea. I'm sad. I'm offended.
FUCK THE VOCAL MINORITY
yea i agree. we need to change how to elect the US president.
There are so many wrongs in society that need to be righted before this makes the list.
The Democratic Party lost the Civil War. When will they be cancelled?
are you saying the republican and democratic party philosophies and constituents from 1860 and right now are identical?
RACISM SOLVED
For fucks sakes
I’m starting to think there are some people wanting to get changes like this made because they can due to the opportunity presenting itself, not necessarily because it offends them. I mean Dennis Dixon could’ve went to any school he wanted if the name of the game wasn’t changed, did it always bother him? I think if people are doing that it causes harm to the real issues.
You've got to be kidding me.
You know what's next, right? Bye bye Illini, Chippewas, and any other racially themed team names. I wish someone would just ressurect the "Fightin' Whities"* like some team out West did a while ago and call team names good.
* About 10-20 years ago some high school out West changed their mascot to the "Fightin' Whities" to try to show how racially insensitve team names can be of cultures. Well, the name was a hit due to it being hilarious, so tail tucked between their legs, they changed it back.
The schools that have human nicknames obviously chose the names because the group had characteristics they admired. Examples: In New England nicknames like Patriots and Minutemen are common. In the south Rebel is popular. In the west Cowboys, Sooners, etc. Other schools use Leathernecks, Doughboys Trojans, Spartans, Fighting Irinicknames sh. The great majority of schools with Native American names chose them during the late 1800s and early 1900s, "the noble redman' feeling was high. They wanted to be associated with characteristics of great courage and willingness to fight against impossible odds.
Soon the only remaining human nicknames will be white groups.
If we could bring those people most determined to eliminate all Native American nicknames into that future and erase their memories of what they had previously demanded, I have no doubt that as they noticed all school nicknames were white they would point to it of more evidence of white racism.
If the teams that still cling to Native American iconography would just get rid of offensive caricatures and names, maybe they would do a better job of convincing people that their mascots are a form of admiration.
For one, the teams in Cleveland, Kansas City, and Washington DC all use generalized terms, as if all of the indigenous people in this country were the same and not part of distinct nations. The DC team is particularly problematic because it refers to a group of people by the color of their skin. That is not a sign of admiration.
Central Michigan University was able to hold on to their Chippewa mascot only after they agreed to form a partnership with the Saginaw Chippewa tribe. Similarly, Florida State University has a strong connection to the Seminole tribe. But most Native American mascots were rooted in stereotypes and they demonstrated that the people that adopted them completely lacked knowledge of the people that they were supposedly honoring.
I mean seriously, you are defending the use of Native American mascots because they were supposed to honor the "noble redman?" Do you not even understand how offensive that term is? It would have been just as offensive in 1900.
it's the hypocrisy that's the problem. white people choose them as mascots because they admire the 'the noble redman' and yet how did they really treat the population during those times?
Just pathetic.
This country has become WEAK! its people becoming professional Victims who get their feelings hurt over everything...people are being bullied into group think and ostracized if they dont con form..I dont recognize America anymore I see a nation of PC Correct so called "Woke" to be popular and cool .
Stuck on stupid. Next we'll be told we shouldn't reference anything related to WWII because there were, you know, Nazis involved.