Olivier Nkamhoua commits! (lol)
From an hour ago over at on3 and I didn't see it posted yet.
Ha! That is both awesome and hilarious. I don't know if I should credit or blame Juwan or Warde or Ono
....or Fire Bakich, again.
Yes. you should!!!
Ant ran a spaces on Twitter and made it sound like this is very much a Warde thing. I believe his exact example was: imagine a general (Warde) taking all the bullets away from his army and telling them to go beat the other squad.
Whether you like him or hate him his information on the basketball team has been accurate.
He literally said yesterday Michigan was out of it. Either his information isn’t that accurate or he’s useless because information on recruiting is never solid and people change their minds all the time. It’s probably more the latter but the end result is that it’s not really worth listening to him at all
Yesterday Michigan was out. Based on many sources and a board post. Michigan got cut from consideration after his visit. Something happened today that changed his mind/priorities. Believe what insiders you want, the moral is this was a big NEED for men’s hoops.
Eh, it’s hit and miss. Ant is basically a message board poster with some connections. I enjoy his actual basketball analysis. His opinions are basically Skip Bayless, Stephen A type drivel. Just drums up discussion
Ant is basically a clown
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Not if our admission office has anything to say about it..
Grad transfer so should not be an issue.
Not so fast. Word from admissions is that he can only come if they can void his diploma.
admissions initially thought he went to vandy, so he's out!!
As Seth explained pretty clearly on a recent podcast, it's not admissions. It's the schools (e.g. LSA) deciding what credits to accept. That is the Byzantine and opaque process that screws us up with transfers.
Ex-admissions officer. And this take is correct.
There is a strong preference against admitting students who will lose a ton of credits when transferring. It's like pulling the rug out on students when they come if you put students in that situation. For the vast majority of students, it is a good policy but has limitations in the freewheeling nature of athletics transferring today.
The faculty have long taken a stance that courses need to be nearly identical for them to transfer. Unless there is an agreement in place between the schools (i.e., community colleges), Calc 1 at regional state university won't necessarily transfer to Michigan.
+1 informative
And academically, it makes sense. I do think that 100 level classes often have enough in common that it's silly to deny those transfers (assuming the origin school is reputable, etc). But as you get into higher levels, it's fair for faculty to have a say in what constitutes something that is equivalent.
As a professor, I made the point about credits transferring being the likely issue with Love. I do not agree that professors should have as much say when it comes to transferability of courses, though. Equivalence should not mean 100% identical. Students in advanced courses are still learning the same concepts to prepare for their fields, which is why someone can have a degree from Michigan that may be more prestigious but fills the same basic job requirements of a degree from not Michigan. In my state, Maryland, all courses that meet 70% Student Learning Outcome threshold are now required to be accepted as equivalents between all Maryland 2- and 4-year public institutions. This is a good solution for all students, not just for athletes or for Michigan.
I took a course on transnationalism and diaspora in East Africa and the Middle East. Just because those regions were very specific, it doesn’t mean the concepts learned for the field of study are not the same. Deans and professors should not turn a course that is teaching fundamental concepts just because the syllabus has different textbooks…but they stupidly do too often, which plays into both the commercialization of a degree and the student debt crises by narrowly defining transfer credits and keeping students from graduating, at all or with more debt than they should.
Profs are responsible for the curriculum, so they have the right to set the standards (provided they comply with applicable laws). I agree with you that Michigan has set the standard too high and using different textbooks is a stupid reason for denying transferability. Transfers have always been a small part of the student body, so their experience and problems are always overlooked within the university. Going to grad school at UCLA was eye-opening with a third of the undergraduates being transfer students. Michigan has a totally different mindset towards them (focused on replacing the few students who drop out).
Not all Professors can teach what they want. Say in nursing school or in some other program where requirements need to be meet by the specific school of nursing or medicine professors are told what to teach and what they need to cover and they don't choose the textbooks it is the Dean of that program or a board of that program. Maybe some professors can teach what they want but the vast majority of professors teach what they are told to cover by said board or dean of that program.
Yeah bc Calc 1 sure varies from college to college. Give me a break.
Cube, this may not apply to other courses / majors - but, there IS a difference in the way Michigan approaches Calculus, as compared to other schools.
Michigan's approach is more theoretical in nature - as compared to using the mathematical principles behind it to solve problems. So, you're proving what calculus / mathematics does - instead of just using an equation to solve a problem. This is a HUGE difference.
And - how do I know this? I've got two kids who have gone through the rigor of Calc and Physics at Michigan. When they compare what they are asked to do - relative to other "good" schools in the conference, I'd say the rigor and application of the subject matter varies greatly. It seems to apply in how Chemistry (including Organic) and Biology are taught / examined too.
It varies pretty wildly in my experience (never mind the variance from schools on trimesters instead of semesters).
And yet no other Power 5 school seems to have this problem. Hmmm....maybe the Michigan difference isn't at that it is cracked up to be.
Also, doesn't LSA only permit 60 credits to be transferred from another college? That's a huge obstacle to admitting any upperclassman (particularly since the NCAA requires that athletes complete at least 24 hours of credit/year to stay eligible). That's why they tried to have Caleb Love graduate from UNC & Terrance Shannon graduate from TTU so they could be admitted as grad transfers, and why LaDarius Henderson had to graduate from ASU first become coming to Ann Arbor.
All colleges at the university only permit 60 credits to be transferred.
...and a limit somewhere in the 60-75 credit max allowed to transfer is the NORM for universities.
I get it and totally agree with you Blinkin, but by definition if these "schools" have any determination whether or not if someone is admitted (or not) then they are part of the admissions process and at their core can be called admissions. It's absolutely bullshit.
Nope - these students get admitted.
They get told, you got in... but only 60 credits are going to transfer.
The student could choose to do it. They aren't denied. Problem is - it would make some of them fall behind the "progress rate" required to be eligible to play.
So it isn't that colleges/admission have denied them entry - they have just granted entry under conditions the student athlete can't accept.
I realize there's been a lot of trauma suffered, but people could at least try to understand the difference between an undergrad transfer and a graduate transfer. The automatic "but admissions" response is lazy and tired.
Well... people could also quit calling them "graduate transfers" - because they aren't transfers.
This is great news. Or at least it will be until our admission department finds out his Doctorial Thesis on nano-technology and its impact on AI has not completed the peer review process so it has not yet been published.
Got to have standards folks.
Not for nothing, but I would read the shit out of that thesis.
LOL at peer review process for dissertations. Based on questions received from my advisor in the years after I left, I'm not even convinced that he read mine.
Also, nobody wants to open this particular Pandora's box, but the amount of copy and paste (either through intentional plagiarism, or misunderstanding what is permissible) is both depressing and astounding. I think I saw a study once (granted this was before automatic checking tools) where they checked a random samples in a MAC engineering department and like 25% had issues that should've been disqualifying. I'll get off my soapbox now.
someone must have kicked in some $$
Show me the money!
This is so stupid. Fun, but stupid.
I will no longer assume I know absolutely anything about recruiting or how this school works and just enjoy the ride.
incredibly stupid!
Living in Knoxville I get stuck watching lots of UT games. This kid is a player, lots of athleticism, can hit the outside shot, good rebounder. Still seems a little raw, but a strong pick up that I would think will get lots of run.
Uh...hell yeah!! For now. Come on, admissions...
Currently listening to the NY Times "5 Minutes That Will Make You Love New Orlean's Jazz," and it fits the timing on the gif you posted.
Weird.
Happy to flip him, and would love to hear the details of what went down.
Is his offer committable from the Admissions Office?
Waiting for our Admissions Office to go into full-on "LOL NOPE" mode in 5....4....3....2....1
Admissions office has already pulled their giant chrome "Declined!" stamp out of their pretentious puckered assholes and giving it a nice spit shine.
Uh... OK! Go Blue!
Big Man camp strikes again! j/k
Yay, I think...I hope.