OLB Target Micah Pollard announcing tomorrow

Submitted by Gentleman Squirrels on July 11th, 2021 at 10:49 AM
https://twitter.com/micahpollard12/status/1414022707650379776?s=21

3 recent crystal balls from Webb, Lorenz, and Marich all have him going to Michigan. Over at Rivals, Holland and an Auburn insider have also flipped him from Auburn to Michigan. So buckle up

Broken Brilliance

July 11th, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^

Not to thread jack but I didn't see it posted anywhere: Perkins-McAllister and Adedire both committed to the horned frogs this weekend. As the crootin turns/days of our croots lives.

MJ14

July 11th, 2021 at 11:22 AM ^

Michigan looks good for: 

Pollard - OLB

Deone Walker - NT

Ja’Kobi Albert - ATH(Secondary)

Deuce Spurlock - ATH(Secondary/WR)

Dillon Tatum - ATH(RB/S)

Dillon Bell - RB/WR

Michigan is currently at 15 commits. This would put them at 21. They have room for around 25 most likely. They still need at least 2 more offensive lineman. So that would leave 2 spots. 
 

Walter Nolen - DT (There is a chance)

Keon Sabb - Safety (Waiting to see how Michigan’s season plays out)

Sebastian Cheeks - LB (Notre Dame/Michigan)

Jahlil Florence - Secondary (Michigan)

Joshua Josephs - LB (Tennessee)

Jeremy Patton - ATH (Texas)

Michigan probably gets 1-3 of these guys listed just above. I listed where I think they’ll go. They could probably fit all 3 that are most likely and if somehow they could get 4 of them they’ll make room. Not sure about offensive lineman. Like I said probably 2 more commits there but I don’t know who they would be. 

MGoStrength

July 11th, 2021 at 12:07 PM ^

I'm curious how often a high 3-star/low 4-star turns into a Jake Ryan, Devin Bush, or Josh Uche who were highly productive players as opposed to a Devin Gill or Kaleb Ringer who never contribute very much.  I mean I can think of quite a few top 250 LBs who still never quite lived up, never mind lower ranked guys who overachieved.  Bolden, RJS, Ross, Anthony, Singleton, Solomon, etc.  I'm all for the 'trust the coaches', but we have an awful lot of guys in of similar recruiting profiles who are not anywhere near top 200 recruits in this cycle.  Out of our 15 commits only two are in the top 200 and 8 are not even in the top 500.  This makes me a bit nervous.  UM has never been a developmental program.

Gentleman Squirrels

July 11th, 2021 at 12:22 PM ^

I think in this cycle you have to take those rankings with a grain of salt. There's going to be massive fluctuations in rankings because scouts haven't had a chance to see many of these players play in person.

As for developing players, it's hard to say whether UM is a developmental program or not since half the coaches have been replaced. If you take their histories, Clinkscale, Hart, and Macdonald all have histories of developing players, and Bellamy did a great job with his players in high school. Hopefully they can keep that up at Michigan as well. Even Jay Harbaugh has proven that he's pretty good at elevating his TEs and RBs when he coached them. However, Helow, Moore, Weiss, and Nua are question marks at their respective positions.

Jordan2323

July 11th, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^

This is pretty much what I was going to say. I’m ok with numerous 3 stars and low 4 stars this year. I’m hoping they are criminally under ranked. I’m really hoping that Harbaugh has that edge back again and is bringing in kids with that same chip and edge to them. We need the staff to identify the kids that were not scouted properly but are really talented and bring them in here with that prove everyone wrong mentality. Obviously if you want to throw Nolen in the pile too I won’t complain any. Nua is the one who I feel is lowering the bar here both recruiting and developmentally. 

MGoStrength

July 11th, 2021 at 1:38 PM ^

This is pretty much what I was going to say. I’m ok with numerous 3 stars and low 4 stars this year. I’m hoping they are criminally under ranked. I’m really hoping that Harbaugh has that edge back again and is bringing in kids with that same chip and edge to them.

So if JH et. al is around in 2022 and we have another class outside the top 10 then what I'm saying is valid and it's not just a blip?

We need the staff to identify the kids that were not scouted properly but are really talented and bring them in here with that prove everyone wrong mentality.

Why are we accepting that UM is not a great recruiting destination?  There is no reason for UM to ever have consecutive recruiting classes outside the top 10 unless it's a numbers issue.  Carr never did.  Carr routinely had classes in the top 6.  He had a #1 class.  He had a #3 class.  And, he had several #5-#8 classes despite lots of 7, 8, and 9 win seasons.  Yet we act like an 8 win season is a death sentence.  We should never have an average per recruit ranking under 90.  UM has all the resources in the world, particularly with NIL.  Lots of people and businesses with money would happily support these players and this program, yet we aren't doing squat with NIL.  I just don't think JH and his staff take full advantage of UM's name and all the resources they have.  FSU is out recruiting UM!

MGoStrength

July 11th, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^

I think in this cycle you have to take those rankings with a grain of salt. There's going to be massive fluctuations in rankings because scouts haven't had a chance to see many of these players play in person.

I hope you're right.  All things being equal I'd prefer to have more guys in the top 200.  I don't see OSU taking a bunch of 3 stars.  They've already got four 5-stars and eleven 4-stars.  I doubt those guys are going to take massive rankings dips.  See my point?  Sure, there's more variance this year, but not so much that it would turn what is not an average JH class into a top 5-8 class, which is likely needed.  No one is expecting a top 3 class, but with UM's resources there's no reason to e consistently be outside the top 8 IMO.

As for developing players, it's hard to say whether UM is a developmental program or not since half the coaches have been replaced.

While true, you're saying what our development could be with new staff members.  I'm saying what it's been under JH's tenure.  Maybe new staff will change things and maybe they won't. 

If you take their histories, Clinkscale, Hart, and Macdonald all have histories of developing players, and Bellamy did a great job with his players in high school. Hopefully they can keep that up at Michigan as well

But, if you look at JH's track record at UM you see a history of guys transferring out.  I personally think the lack of development and retention is a systematic problem that comes from the top.  I think it has more to do with how JH handles players than it does actual skill development or lack thereof.  It's a player personnel problem IMO not a coaching technique problem.  JH is too busy playing favorites or letting Nico pick the QB to keep guys around.  I have no idea if any of this is true and it doesn't really matter.  But, it highlights the fact that JH doesn't know how to manage players in today's game.

GoBlueInAlabama

July 11th, 2021 at 3:17 PM ^

Hey now, you dropped a good one in there.  Please elaborate on ‘Nico picking the QB’?  
 

also, Michigan does not have a recruiting problem.  They are consistently among the top 15 and usually closer to the top 10.  The recruiting problem is that fans think Michigan should finish in the top 2 every recruiting cycle.  Be completely honest, if you had a son that was a skill position player that could pick any school, where would you slot Michigan??  I’m guessing it would be about 10-15.  Assuming you can separate being a fan from what the reality of NFL draft picks.  Michigan hasn’t produced many elite WR, RB, QB, TE in the past 15-20 years.

so yeah, OSU, Bama, LSU, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, Clemson, ND, USC Should all be ranked above Michigan (at least the first 7 listed).

MGoStrength

July 11th, 2021 at 4:10 PM ^

Hey now, you dropped a good one in there.  Please elaborate on ‘Nico picking the QB’? 

That's a rumor that was floated around the blog last week.  The theory is Nico wanted Milton to be the QB and that's what lead to McCaffrey leaving.  I don't know if it's accurate or not.  But, this isn't the first time we've heard about JH playing favorites.

also, Michigan does not have a recruiting problem.

I think there are bigger problems and I also think UM recruits well enough to win more games than they do.  But, they also don't recruit as well as they did under Carr.  Carr's average class was #8.7, he signed twelve 5-stars, and he had four top 5 classes including the #1 overall class in 1999 (247 only goes back to 1999, but didn't track individual player rankings so he probably had even more 5-stars in that as I'm sure there were at least a few in 1999 that didn't get calculated).  JH averages the #11.6 class.  He signed half the amount of 5-star players in one less year (6).  So, while I don't think that's a massive gap, there is a gap there.  I'd guess JH's biggest problem is he can't recruit OH whereas Carr did quite well.

Be completely honest, if you had a son that was a skill position player that could pick any school, where would you slot Michigan??  I’m guessing it would be about 10-15.  Assuming you can separate being a fan from what the reality of NFL draft picks.  Michigan hasn’t produced many elite WR, RB, QB, TE in the past 15-20 years.

so yeah, OSU, Bama, LSU, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, Clemson, ND, USC Should all be ranked above Michigan (at least the first 7 listed).

I disagree that you have to produce NFL talent at the desired position to get HS kids to go there.  If that were true Haskins would have never went to OSU.  Watson would have never went to Clemson.  DPJ would have never gone to UM.  That's the whole point of NIL.  PAY KIDS TO GO THERE LIKE BAMA DOES!!!!  Do you the #5 RB in a class goes to Bama when they already have the #1 RB in his class?  Hell no.  That kid isn't going to be the starter.  He goes there because he's getting paid to go there and he HOPES he can beat out the guy ahead of him.  But, without that payment (or with an equal incentive to another good program) he'd go somewhere where he's the top ranked player in his class at his position.  But, the problem is OSU & Bama are stockpiling more kids than they can play.  If you think that's happening purely because of NFL development you are naive.

AlbanyBlue

July 11th, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^

Without additional information, I'd give more weight to the explanation GhostOfJermaine wrote about -- Dylan said he wasn't feeling well at practice, Harbaugh took issue with it (which makes sense to me given what Jim clearly wants to see in practice), and DMac's parents got wind of it. This resulted it sitting out / transferring.

The idea that a player (even a star player) could dictate who should start at QB, especially on a Harbaugh-coached team, is extremely unlikely. 

OldSchoolWolverine

July 11th, 2021 at 8:53 PM ^

I'm not sure the staff is utilizing the seven sons well enough while recruiting.  

They need to go back into Ohio and elsewhere and go after all the same OSU recruits and generate jealousy, vanity, greed in them.  Keep telling them they won't play behind so and so at OSU and that so and so is coming in the following year at and we are the other half of rivalry etc  (and change the fucking font Jim).  They need to be all over OSU and know what they're doing, what players they're going after the next cycle etc.  And plant the seeds, and not let up ....

Seth

July 11th, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^

Here are the guys between 3.67 and 3.90 from 1990 to 2019 in my database. I bolded the guys who ended up being impact players for Michigan or elsewhere against similar or better competition.

Name Pos Class Starts NFL STARs Career Summary
Wilton Speight QB 2014 16 UDFA 3.84 Degree and a Transfer
Jake Rudock QB 2015 13 6th 3.69 Played out eligibility
Steven Threet QB 2007 8  -  3.88 Transfer: playing time
Justin Feagin QB 2008 0  -  3.70 Behavioral: dismissed
Jason Forcier QB 2005 0  -  3.90 Transfer: playing time
Tom Brady QB 1995 25 6th 3.84 Played out eligibility
Scott Dreisbach QB 1994 15  -  3.82 Played out eligibility
Christian Turner RB 2018 0 n/a 3.74 Transfer: playing time
Chris Evans RB 2016 6 2022 3.90 (Played out eligibility-COVID)
Fitzgerald Toussaint RB 2009 31 UDFA+ 3.90 Played out eligibility
Mike Cox RB 2008 0 7th 3.76 Degree and a Transfer
Teric Jones RB 2009 0  -  3.70 Degree/Medical
Mister Simpson RB 2005 0  -  3.80 Transfer: playing time
Walter Cross RB 1998 0  -  3.88 Played out eligibility
Ryan Beard RB 1999 0  -  3.72 Behavioral: dismissed
Ed Davis RB 1991 4  -  3.71 Played out eligibility
Wyatt Shallman FB 2013 0  -  3.90 Degree and a Handshake
Quintin Patilla FB 2006 0  -  3.87 Transfer: playing time
Ray Jackson FB 1997 1 UDFA 3.79 Behavioral: dismissed
John Anes FB 1996 0  -  3.81 Transfer: Personal
Mike Sainristil SL 2019 4 n/a 3.78 On Team
Eddie McDoom SL 2016 2 n/a 3.86 Transfer: playing time
Roy Roundtree SL 2008 42  -  3.77 Played out eligibility
Martavious Odoms SL 2008 28  -  3.81 Played out eligibility
Maurice Ways WR 2014 2  -  3.80 Degree and a Transfer
Jehu Chesson WR 2012 25 4th 3.67 Played out eligibility
Freddy Canteen WR 2014 4  -  3.85 Degree and a Transfer
Jaron Dukes WR 2013 0  -  3.87 Degree and a Handshake
Csont'e York WR 2013 0  -  3.70 Behavioral: dismissed
Jerald Robinson WR 2010 0  -  3.82 Transfer: playing time
Zion Babb WR 2007 1  -  3.86 Behavioral: dismissed
Braylon Edwards WR 2001 35 1st 3.79 Played out eligibility
Jermaine Gonzales WR 2000 1  -  3.85 Played out eligibility
James Taylor WR 2000 0  -  3.82 Behaviorial: DNQ
Joel Honigford TE 2017 0 n/a 3.78 On Team
A.J. Williams TE 2012 15  -  3.77 Played out eligibility
Chris Barnett TE 2011 0  -  3.88 Transfer: Personal
Martell Webb TE 2007 4  -  3.85 Played out eligibility
Kevin Murphy TE 2002 0  -  3.76 Degree/Gave up football
Jim Fisher TE 2000 0  -  3.85 Played out eligibility
Andy Mignery TE 1999 9  -  3.80 Played out eligibility
Kyle Ealey TE 2001 0  -  3.89 Gave up football
Bill Seymour TE 1997 23  -  3.77 Played out eligibility
John Jaeckin TE 1990 0  -  3.82 Played out eligibility
Zach Carpenter C 2019 2  -  3.78 Transfer: Personal
David Molk C 2007 41 7th 3.86 Played out eligibility
Christian Pace C 2010 0  -  3.79 Degree/Medical
Andrew Stueber OG 2017 8 n/a 3.74 On Team
Ben Braden OG 2012 36 UDFA+ 3.80 Played out eligibility
Blake Bars OG 2012 0  -  3.71 Degree and a Handshake
Dan Samuelson OG 2013 0  -  3.73 Transfer: playing time
Chris Bryant OG 2011 2  -  3.90 Degree/Medical
Kurt Wermers OG 2008 0  -  3.83 Transfer: Coach
John Partchenko OG 1993 0  -  3.81 Degree and a Handshake
Joe Marinaro OG 1991 34  -  3.87 Played out eligibility
Ante Skorput OG 1991 0  -  3.82 Degree and a Handshake
Ja'Raymond Hall OT 2017 0 n/a 3.89 Transfer: playing time
Jon Jansen OT 1994 50 2nd 3.87 Played out eligibility
Jeff Potts OT 1995 0  -  3.86 Degree and a Handshake
Jon Runyan OT 1992 34 4th 3.71 Early NFL
Mike Sullivan OT 1991 12  -  3.74 Played out eligibility
Ron Acheson OT 1995 0  -  3.83 Transfer: playing time
Eric Moltane OT 1995 0  -  3.74 Degree/Medical
Jack Stewart NT 2019 0 n/a 3.69 On Team
Phillip Paea NT 2017 0 n/a 3.84 Degree and a Transfer
Richard Ash NT 2010 0 UDFA+ 3.81 Degree and a Transfer
Larry Harrison NT 2002 7  -  3.68 Behavioral: dismissed
Alex Ofili NT 2001 1  -  3.83 Early NFL
Rob Renes NT 1995 37 7th 3.83 Played out eligibility
Matthew Godin DT 2012 16  -  3.86 Played out eligibility
Jibreel Black DT 2010 16  -  3.88 Played out eligibility
Ben Huff DT 1993 13  -  3.71 Degree/Medical
Kerwin Waldroup DT 1992 5 5th 3.76 Transfer: Personal
Taylor Upshaw SDE 2018 2 n/a 3.70 On Team
Michael Morris SDE 2019 0 n/a 3.87 On Team
Shelton Johnson SDE 2015 0  -  3.86 Behavioral: dismissed
Ken Wilkins SDE 2010 0  -  3.82 Degree/Gave up football
Glen Steele SDE 1993 38 4th 3.80 Played out eligibility
Chase Winovich WDE 2014 28 3rd 3.89 Played out eligibility
Shantee Orr WDE 1999 22 UDFA+ 3.72 Early NFL
Stephen Evans WDE 1992 1  -  3.89 Degree and a Handshake
Noah Furbush SAM 2014 5  -  3.71 Played out eligibility
Evan Coleman SAM 1998 6  -  3.86 Played out eligibility
Charlie Stumb SAM 1990 0  -  3.70 Degree/Medical
Charles Thomas MLB 2019 0 n/a 3.82 Transfer: playing time
Elysee Mbem-Bosse MLB 2016 0  -  3.75 Behavioral: dismissed
Kenny Demens MLB 2008 33 UDFA+ 3.84 Played out eligibility
Mike Jones MLB 2009 0  -  3.70 Degree and a Handshake
Kaleb Ringer MLB 2012 0  -  3.73 Transfer: playing time
Kellen Jones MLB 2011 0  -  3.86 Transfer: playing time
Lawrence Reid MLB 2001 25  -  3.68 Degree/Medical
Kolby Wells MLB 2000 0  -  3.83 Degree/Medical
Jarrett Irons MLB 1992 46  -  3.90 Played out eligibility
Jason Kendrick MLB 1990 0  -  3.74 Degree/Gave up football
Brandin Hawthorne WLB 2009 5  -  3.72 Played out eligibility
Brandon Herron WLB 2007 1  -  3.85 Played out eligibility
Davion Rogers WLB 2010 0  -  3.74 Behaviorial: DNQ
Taylor Hill WLB 2008 0  -  3.75 Transfer: Personal
Joey Sarantos WLB 2001 1  -  3.79 Degree and a Handshake
John Spytek WLB 1999 0  -  3.79 Degree and a Handshake
Jeff Holtry WLB 1994 0  -  3.86 Transfer: Personal
Steve Morrison WLB 1990 35  -  3.90 Played out eligibility
Carvin Johnson Spur 2010 3  -  3.67 Transfer: playing time
Cameron Gordon HSP 2009 15  -  3.87 Played out eligibility
Khaleke Hudson VIP 2016 36 5th 3.85 Played out eligibility
Artis Chambers SS 2007 0  -  3.83 Transfer: playing time
Jacob Stewart SS 2001 2  -  3.71 Played out eligibility
Keston Cheathem SS 2004 0  -  3.77 Transfer: Personal
Marcus Ray SS 1994 33 UDFA 3.90 Played out eligibility
J'Marick Woods FS 2017 1 n/a 3.80 Degree and a Transfer
Vladimir Emilien FS 2009 0  -  3.89 Transfer: playing time
Jon Shaw FS 1999 3  -  3.78 Played out eligibility
DJ Turner CB 2019 0 n/a 3.83 On Team
Channing Stribling CB 2013 18  -  3.69 Played out eligibility
Ross Taylor-Douglas CB 2013 0  -  3.90 Degree and a Transfer
Raymon Taylor CB 2011 31  -  3.80 Played out eligibility
Delonte Hollowell CB 2011 1  -  3.79 Played out eligibility
Johnny Sears CB 2005 1  -  3.70 Behavioral: dismissed
Darnell Hood CB 2002 1  -  3.80 Played out eligibility
William Peterson CB 1997 2 3rd 3.77 Behavioral: dismissed
Tyrone Noble CB 1992 3  -  3.78 Degree and a Transfer

MGoStrength

July 11th, 2021 at 8:16 PM ^

That's amazing, thanks for throwing that together Seth!  I don't like the odds of these guys turning into Braylon Edwards. J'marick Woods is a lot more likely. And, that won't do UM any good.

We need a lot more Dax Hill, Cesar Ruiz, Rashon  Gary, Chris Hinton, Will Johnson,  and JJ McCarthy and a lot less high 3/low 4 stars. It's just a numbers game.

King Tot

July 11th, 2021 at 1:08 PM ^

At the risk of people argueing over what this defense will look like, how many more LB/EDGE shaped guys are we taking? It seems Joshua Josephs is a take no matter what. We are still going hard after Jeremy Patton, Sebastian Cheeks, and Lander Barton. That doesn't include some of the other guys who are popping up like Deuce Spurlock.

Gentleman Squirrels

July 11th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^

I think Cheeks is also a take no matter what since he's their top target at ILB. Patton and Spurlock are likely whoever commits first. That would make 2-3 ILB. Add Eugenio, Henry, Pollard, and Josephs/Barton. That would be 3-4 OLBs. With how important LBs are in this system, it's really important to restock the LB room.