No defense today across the board

Submitted by MIMark on October 10th, 2020 at 11:19 PM

Just look at some of these scores:

  • Florida 38, Texas A&M 41
  • Virginia Tech 45, UNC 56
  • Missouri 45, LSU 41
  • Texas 45, Oklahoma 53 (4 OT)
  • Alabama 63, Ole Miss 48

Wow. Either nobody played defense today or the impact of covid is being felt more on defense than offense. I don't know how else to interpret so many ridiculously high scoring games than to attribute it to covid, between players out, missed practices, and practices hampered by social distance guidelines.

And with Big Ten beginning play in a couple more weeks, anything to take away and apply?

Blake Forum

October 10th, 2020 at 11:21 PM ^

This is why I’m less concerned about Michigan’s cornerback play than whether the offense is able to fully unleash their explosiveness at the skill positions. Let’s hope Joe Milton makes the ball go zoooom

outsidethebox

October 11th, 2020 at 8:41 AM ^

We should get a legitimate indication this year whether Gattis is the real deal or not. He has had a year to adjust from having superior talent in hand to working with very good but not elite kids. Today, against well-designed, modern offenses, your offense is going to need to score on a high percentage of its possessions in order to win. 

Lost in all the high octane hype is the importance of simply moving the chains. Clemson's offense is elite because Lawrence is incredibly good at everything but first and foremost he moves the chains. In this regards, Fields is likely going to approach Lawrence this year and despite OK's losses Rattler will soon figure this out as well. Personally, I believe both Milton and McNamara can ascend to be highly functional in this regard as well. If Milton is "reduced" to a one or two read QB and, if it is not there, avoid the loss and go get the 5+ yards the defense is giving you the Michigan offense could be quite the juggernaut. McNamara's HS tape shows that this is already who he is. 

Otherwise, for me, the criticisms that the defenses are simply awful are unfair. Today, when offenses are clicking and with all the rules in their favor, defenses are at a huge disadvantage. When Mississippi puts up 48 against Alabama...be informed that every advantage in today's game goes to the offense. Harbaugh, Gattis....Michigan need to figure this out. 

Lakeyale13

October 11th, 2020 at 9:50 AM ^

I don't think you can look at our offense this year and make that a judgment on if Gattis is the real deal or not.  He will have a starting QB That has thrown the ball in an actual game a dozen or so times with a completion rate around 50% with 2 INT's and 1 TD.  Gattis can only scheme, he can't execute...as we all saw last year with Shea missing wide open receivers 20+ yards down the field.

1VaBlue1

October 11th, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^

Kinda sorta...  The whole 'real deal' thing includes teaching the players to execute.  Don't know what Shea's deal was, but hopefully Milton will be more decisive - which is something you can't really teach.  I mean, Riley has a true freshman (Rattler) playing pretty darn well.  Swinney had Lawrence at a high level in his first game, too.  Jake Fromm at Georgia a couple years ago...  New QB's can play well enough - if the coaching staff puts them in position to do so.

1VaBlue1

October 11th, 2020 at 2:46 PM ^

Very well stated - much better than I've accomplished!  What Michigan missed the last couple of years, other than in small windows, was Shea just picking up the yards given.  More often than not, he made the wrong decision and got nothing.  That kills drives, which in turn kills games.  And with Michigan of late, when the offense stalls the rest of the team (ie: defense) gets down on itself, and more shit happens.

Brian Griese

October 11th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

It's not about the offense being "unleashed" at the skill positions.  It ultimately boils down to the fact that the head coach and defensive coordinator have expressed their desire to limit snaps.  Unless they are willing to change their philosophy (which I personally doubt) you're still going to see a team that refuses to take free yards offered to them by using tempo and does not put up the big offensive numbers you're commonly seeing in this day and age of college football.  

crg

October 10th, 2020 at 11:21 PM ^

Most of those teams have bad/rebuilding defenses (Bama the only real outlier there).  All are going with relatively high-powered offenses.  Points ensue.

Eng1980

October 11th, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^

I would love to see, yearn to see, Michigan run a two-minute drill with tight execution under Harbaugh.   Hopefully to end the first half as every game is a blowout in Michigan's favor.  

The losses against FSU, USC, Florida included minutes where the offense was embarrassingly confused at times where basic tempo offense were needed.  Delay of game penalties occur at the very worst times.  I thought every week included a practice session of the two-minute drill.

NYC Fan3

October 11th, 2020 at 9:33 AM ^

I don’t think Michigan’s issue is with their defense.

In fact, if Michigan had a better offense, the defensive stats would look even more impressive.

Being ranked 14th last year while being saddled with an ineffective offense in half of their games last season is great.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa/fei/overalldef/2019

MJ14

October 11th, 2020 at 9:17 AM ^

I know you guys are going to say it’s just an excuse but Gattis was in his first year as a play caller and Lane is in year 15+. Kiffin has always been an elite play caller, so it’s no surprise his offense could muster up some creative, good plays against his biggest opponent. I get that both teams were in their first year of offensive coordinators. The biggest difference is Gattis was a first year play caller and moving the offense from something completely different. Kiffin was running a similar offense to what Ole Miss is used to, offense hasn’t been the problem at Ole Miss, and Kiffin has many years as an elite play caller. 
 

Let’s see what Gattis does this year. 

NYC Fan3

October 11th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^

Ole Miss’ offensive coordinator was hired from UCF Dec 12, 2019.

I don’t understand why Jim is not held to a higher standard by this fan base.  He came in known as a QB guru and in his 5th year here finished 6th in the B1G in offensive efficiency, despite half of the offense being drafted.  If looking at the above offensive outputs in big games doesn’t bother you, I don’t know what to tell you.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa/fei/overalloff/2019

AZBlue

October 11th, 2020 at 8:36 AM ^

Was driving me crazy during the Texas - OU game!  For the entire first half it appeared that the players - particularly on Texas - were more concerned with hitting the ball-carrier than wrapping up!!!

I also saw a lot of “give up” once the play was away or past defenders.  I know it was hot in TX yesterday but a lot of that seems to be effort and attitude related.

Blue Middle

October 10th, 2020 at 11:24 PM ^

The defense is not there this season. College football is close to making defense almost irrelevant. You need sacks, turnovers, mistakes from the offense, or TFLs to get off the field.

I Hope Gattis can get our offense fully weaponized with Milton. That’s the only way to win big games these days. 

bronxblue

October 11th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^

(1) Basketball has a whole component of it centered on defense, gives out awards for it, and typically the best teams in the league have very good defenses.

(2) College defenses are full of elite athletes, but the rules have absolutely shifted in such a way that defenders are more affected and limited in what they can do.  I'm old enough to remember multiple times during last year's PSU game where Michigan defenders were run over by PSU receivers and either no penalty was called or UM defenders were called for PI.  Guys are getting ejected for targeting based on what side of some undefined physics equation related momentum they fall on.  And offenses have also innovated to such a degree that multiple bad QBs who bust out of the NFL (if they even get there) can put up 40+ points against defenses full of first-rounders.  

rob f

October 10th, 2020 at 11:27 PM ^

Yep.

I had 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 0 pass break-ups, 0 sacks, 0 hurries, absolutely no defense by this board member.

Without a doubt, though, I've got a future as a Detroit Lions linebacker.

WolverineHistorian

October 10th, 2020 at 11:29 PM ^

LSU’s defense against winless Missouri today was right out of the RichRod playbook.  The secondary was nowhere near the Missouri receivers over and over and over.  

But even more surprising was Ole Miss moving down the field with relative ease against Bama both through the air and on the ground for 650 something yards.  

Mgoczar

October 10th, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^

It's the age of offense. Low scoring defense fest isn't gonna win you anything. High octane offense is a must. That's my takeaway. 

 

Re: Michigan, I am glad Gattis is here to 'modernize' michigan. Thank goodness. 

Gulogulo37

October 11th, 2020 at 2:11 AM ^

RR did. The defense was the problem, along with the lack of overall talent. No offense to Roundtree but that's not a guy who should be your #1 receiver if you wanna win P5 conference championships.

I don't remember Nuss as a guy who was supposed to modernize the offense. He had been at Bama, which was still stodgy at the time. He was just supposed to be good, not especially innovative.