NFL rookie rankings - Bush at 3 per CBS
CBS Sports has an update NFL rookie ranking out, with Devin Bush at #3 (he was #2 last week, but the Steelers had a bye week so obviously he dropped) and Winovich holding steady at #15.
They've had nick bosa at #1 for a while now. I don't follow NFL too closely, much less the 49ers. Has bosa been that good?
It looks like Bush, bosa, Josh Allen, Brian Burns are the top candidates for the various DROY awards so far, and Bush and bosa are in the mix for one of the many ROTY awards.
Please don't let yet ANOTHER bosa win DROY...
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^
Love me some Bush
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^
I have a bush fetish and I don't care who knows it.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Beat me to it.
Take your upvote good sir
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:16 PM ^
Do you prefer one in the hand or two in the bush?
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Interesting that the conference that doesnt have players as big or as fast as the vaunted SEC managed to have the #1 & #3 ranked NFL rookies somehow.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^
SEC proponents would point out that they're both from SEC territory (Florida).
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:09 PM ^
And in the next breath would take credit for Josh Jacobs since he went to Alabama despite being from B12 country.
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:16 PM ^
The big ten has always been fantastic as producing NFL talent.
The whole SEC dominance stems from BCS era 2006-2012 when the SEC won 7 consecutive BCS Titles. That run of success can be boiled down to Urban Meyer and Tebow early, and then Saban since then. Les Miles took Saban's former team LSU to a BCS title during Saban's first year at Alabama, but then Saban promptly took Miles' lunch money. And in 2010 Gene Chizik paid 6 figures to get Cam Newton and Auburn won a BCS title then promptly fell back to earth.
From 2013 - Present the SEC (Saban) has only won 2 championships to everyone else's 4.
So my point is that non-Alabama SEC teams are vastly overrated and the whole SEC dominance is built on the back of the best coach in college football modern history.
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:56 PM ^
SEC dominance has been the refrain through the aughts and early teens, but look at the other teams which have won BCS championships from 2013 onward. Clemson x2, Alabama x2, Florida State x1, and ohio state x1.
Aside from osu, the rest of still very much southern teams and fit the "southern dominance in college football" narrative.
October 22nd, 2019 at 3:53 PM ^
But now you've moved the goal post. "SEC Dominance" and "Southern Dominance" aren't the same...
The ACC is largely a "Southern Conference" eleven of its fourteen full members are south of the mason Dixon line. (Only BC, Syracuse, Pitt, and non-football member ND are north of the mason Dixon line). And yet nobody would argue that the ACC is dominant.
Clemson and FSU's success in recent years isn't projected on to the middle tier of the ACC like 'Bama and Florida's success is projected on to the middle tier of the SEC.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
Yes Bosa has been that good.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
Bosa has been incredible, which sucks
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:38 PM ^
I mean, it'd suck a lot more if he returned for another year at OSU.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:40 PM ^
Not for us Niners fans
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
Winovich at #15. That’d be nice to see again.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:47 PM ^
How is Gary doing as a LB in GB? Anyone following the Packers enough to have any thoughts?
October 22nd, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^
Don't follow, but looks like he has 10 tackles and 1 sack on the season. I'm guessing he's getting some situational or garbage time snaps, as he hasn't recorded more than 4 tackles in a game.
October 22nd, 2019 at 2:08 PM ^
I had a packer's game on a couple weeks ago and I heard his name mentioned a few times, he's getting some playing time anyway.
October 22nd, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^
Gary is currently getting reps as a rotational LB/DL type. He has a bit of an uphill battle since GB signed two rush end/LB types in free agency. Both were lower usage but high grade players (more so with Z. Smith that P. Smith) who were rotational or part time starters the ravens and redskins.
So, he has two solid-to-good NFL vets who are finally getting the chance to start in front of him. I'm not sure why they decided to draft him to that position after that, but I guess you can never have too many good pass rushers. I expect that they will not continue to pay all three for more than a year or two and the odd man gets cut.
Gary had some shoulder stuff keep him out of the preseason, then I remember seeing him on the injury report with a knee or ankle issue so it's safe to say that he is behind a little. Seeing him get snaps against the lions and put of some stats otherwise tells me that he is the #3 rush end/LB and has a chance to work his way up to starter with enough production.
October 23rd, 2019 at 1:24 PM ^
Thanks. Not what you are hoping for out of the gate with a 12 pick but not a whiff.
October 22nd, 2019 at 12:50 PM ^
I wish the damn Lions would've drafted Chase!
Instead we get overrated, overpaid and underachieving Trey Flowers! Woo hoo!
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:00 PM ^
Lions missing on a draft pick? Weird.
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^
Weird, I don’t see Devin White on that list. Thought he was supposed to be some great linebacker compared to Bush.
/s
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:49 PM ^
The link you provided gives the stats for both Bosa and Bush. 16 tackles - 4 sacks - 1 forced fumble for Bosa. Bush has 52 tackles - 1 sack - 3 pass deflections - 2 interceptions.
I am not sure why Bosa would be #1 against Bush's #3.
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:59 PM ^
The LBs will always get the lion's share of the tackles though, that's just the way of the jungle
October 22nd, 2019 at 1:59 PM ^
If you read any of the articles, it does say he's been incredibly disruptive and one of the leaders in QB pressure, top quartile with sacks, etc. The stats are not as shiny as those of Bush, but a DL's stats never are as great as an LB's. This is why I asked the question. It seems the consensus is that bosa has been all that. Must be having an incredible rookie season if he's doing better than Bush.
October 22nd, 2019 at 2:14 PM ^
Bush: 53 tackles, 1 sack, 2 INTs, 4FR, 3TFL 1 TD
Bosa: 16 tackles, 4 sacks, 1FF, 1 FR, 8TFL
Bush has been better thus far
October 22nd, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^
Nick Bosa started the season a little slow due to coming back from injury, but he was still a force... Now that N. Bosa has been healthy for a few weeks, he has been unstoppable/unblockable.
Last season, the 49ers defense was in the bottom half of the NFL, and some fans wanted DC Robert Saleh canned... Now with almost the exact same personnel + rookie Nick Bosa, the 49ers are ranked 2nd in the NFL in Total Defense, and Saleh has job security.