4roses

January 30th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^

I have zero faith that this will result in anything from the NCAA, but it would at least be nice if the college football media-mafia would pick this up as the cause dujour.  

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njvictor

January 30th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^

Lol nothing is going to come of this. I'd imagine this has to do with them throwing $8M at Nico Iamaleava, but the NCAA is probably going to end up powerless when they try to enforce an NIL related punishment because there is actual legal ramifications if they try to do so

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MEZman

January 30th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^

Didn't the Tennessee legislature pass a law that the NCAA can't do anything about UT a while ago? Doesn't seem like a prohibition against pay for play is going to survive a court challenge anyway. NCAA's just whistling past the graveyard as per usual.

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CC_MFan

January 30th, 2024 at 2:29 PM ^

Can someone clear up the 1st suspension due to Cheeseburgers?

The way I have heard is that two recruits were in town and Harbaugh got the burgers. When he was investigated he answered that he didn't recall on some of the questions.  As a result, they claimed he was being willfully deceitful?  Is that right or am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

CC

 

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1VaBlue1

January 30th, 2024 at 2:40 PM ^

Pretty much this...  Two croots that had already signed their LOI's showed up on campus during the summer of Covid no contact period, and someone paid for lunch with them.  Fast forward 2 years post-Covid and NCAA gumshoes asked Harbaugh if he paid for lunch that day.  Because he doesn't remember, the NCAA said he was 'misleading', and voila - no penalties.  Warde decided to pre-emptively suspend him 3 games in hopes that the NCAA would be good with that.

Still no resolution on that, but I suspect it'll end in a midnight news dump on a Friday in July.

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JonathanE

January 30th, 2024 at 3:54 PM ^

In addition to the contact with the recruits during the dead period, Michigan was alleged to have had too many coaches at practice sessions, analysts doing on-field coaching as well as watching player workouts over a video feed. 

Those were minor Level II violations. As Blue pointed out, the Level I allegation is that Harbaugh misled NCAA investigators when confronted with questions about the Level II allegations. 

The NCAA and Michigan reportedly agreed to a 4-game suspension for Harbaugh and would have wrapped everything up. The NCAA ended up rejecting that agreement because they said that their investigation was still ongoing. 

Michigan decided to self-impose a 3-game ban for Harbaugh to get ahead of the investigation to mitigate any possible discipline at a later time. 

Then the whole Connor Stalions mess hit. 

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Angry-Dad

January 30th, 2024 at 2:31 PM ^

Being in Knoxville there seems to be little concern from the rank and file.  The general feeling is if they slam UT they have to slam everyone and the NCAA won't do that.  We will see. But a big retort around here is everyone is pay to play now and to pretend otherwise is a joke. 

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Romulan Commander

January 30th, 2024 at 3:50 PM ^

From the ESPN story, UT Chancellor Donde Plowman spit fire right back at the NCAA:

"The NCAA's allegations are factually untrue and procedurally flawed... Moreover, it is intellectually dishonest for the NCAA enforcement staff to pursue infractions cases as if student-athletes have no NIL rights and as if institutions all have been functioning post-Alston with a clear and unchanging set of rules and willfully violating them.... The NCAA enforcement staff's intended processing of the proposed allegations is replete with legal and procedural defects, including unsettled and outstanding interpretive questions that require further attention and input from the NCAA membership, particularly given the novel nature of the issue and the gravity of such determinations. Further, some of the allegations are simply factually untrue. It is intellectually dishonest for the NCAA staff to issue guidelines that say a third-party collective/business may meet with prospective student-athletes, discuss NIL, even enter into a contract with prospective student-athletes, but at the same time say that the collective may not engage in conversations that would be of a recruiting nature. Any discussion about NIL might factor into a prospective student-athlete's decision to attend an institution. This creates an inherently unworkable situation, and everyone knows it."

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tybert

January 30th, 2024 at 2:54 PM ^

With JH off to the NFL, I think once the current burgergate and signgate are settled, I don't expect UM to be unduly targeted like before. JH delivered the good but clearly enjoyed sticking his fingers in the eyes of the NCAA, ala the Three Stooges eye pokes. Sherrone for one doesn't have the street creds built up in CFB yet like JH did to be a thorn in their side. He will support his players but I expect he will focus more on recruiting and the Xs and Os for a few years. 

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stephenrjking

January 30th, 2024 at 4:12 PM ^

I follow a guy on twitter for non sports stuff and he savaged us pretty harshly in the wake of signgate and held on to that for a long time. And he’s a TN fan and now he’s going absolutely ballistic about the big media outlets getting key details wrong and the NCAA leaking the details and it’s absolutely hilarious. 

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uminks

January 30th, 2024 at 4:49 PM ^

What about UGA, Bama, LSU, and TAM. Seems like these schools have done as much our more than TN. I'm sure TN will tell the NCAA to go fuck off and nothing much will happen.

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brad

January 30th, 2024 at 5:37 PM ^

Tennessee should ateast be getting some kind of backdoor payback for being the SEC's designated fall guy.  When you look at the rosters and known info across the SEC, it's absurd that Tennessee, and only Tennessee, get whacked.  "Whacked" being a relative term

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rice4114

January 30th, 2024 at 5:59 PM ^

Ive said it before and Ill say it again. If you have a shit record or are underachieving in the SEC you are fair game. 

Florida and Tennessee shouldve known better. They are diluting the talent and having 4-6 loss seasons. That is almost as bad as a Harbaugh led Michigan team. 

You want the NCAA to leave you completely alone and you are in the SEC? Win 12 games a season. Then you are as clean and pure as a program can be. 

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