My Totally Bats Idea for a Big Ten FB Season
I know this is a pointless exercise but...whatever. I'm still in the bargaining phase of my grief, and I wish something like this would work in a world where we admit that college athletes are students and semi-pros. I strove to limit the games, limit travel, play some football, and pick a champion. So my totally bats idea is to borrow an idea from chess - the swiss system - for the first few rounds, and combine it with a double elimination setup. For safety's sake, bubble in 3 sites for the first 3 round - the first half of the season. After 2-4 games per team, 6 teams will bubble together for the second half of the season. Rivalry games are up front, rematches are mostly avoided until the championship.
So 3 bubbles – the western 4 schools in the twin cities, the indiana-illinois schools in Indy, and the Michigan and eastern schools in Detroit
For three weeks they play this swiss system – but in Detroit things will have to be a bit funky.
Rd 1 is rivalry games
TC: Wiscy-Minny, Iowa Nebraska
Indy: UofI-NW, IU-Purdue
Detroit: Sparty-Mich, Ohio-PennSt, RU-MD
BUT WAIT! We’re missing the most important rivalry game. Don’t worry, we also can’t do a normal swiss system in Detroit. So UM-OSU will be mandatory, and give us a useful constraint to schedule around
Rd 2 is winners and losers in TC and Indy
In Detroit, 2 winners play 2 losers, but there will be one winner-loser game. It cannot be a rematch. And one game must be Michigan-Ohio State
Rd 3 is all the 1-1 teams play each other. BUT WAIT! Detroit is making things funky – we could have 2x 1-1 teams, or 4x 1-1 teams. No matter – all the 1-1s play each other
Round 3.5 is confusing…if in Detroit we have 2 undefeated teams, they play each other, let’s call this option A. This game would happen on 1-1 weekend
3.75A is the two 2-1 teams remaining in Detroit play an elimination game the next weekend. This is the only place where you may see a rematch before the championship final.
Meanwhile, 3.75A sees the central and western champs play each other – two weeks after 3.0 finished, 3 weeks after their last game
Also, if they want the 0-2 teams could play a consolation game for a 3-game season
So at the end of round 3 in option A, it took 3 weeks but we have 2 undefeated teams and 4x 2-1 teams
3.5B? well in Detroit, the 2-1 teams would play one week after round 3
and in the central and west…3.75B is the central and west undefeateds play a game after bubbling for a couple of weeks in the new bubble
No matter what – option A or option B, we have 2 undefeated teams and 4x 1-loss teams
Round 4: The 1-loss teams play each other – no rematches
Round 5: Semifinals, undefeateds play 1-losses – no rematches
Round 6: Finals
Max games: 7
Min games: 1-4 teams could play 2 games; 6 teams will play no more than 3, 6 teams will play at least 4, and the last 4 will play 5,6,or 7 depending on how it goes
Round 3 is 4 weeks long in a bubble, with 2-3 weeks break before bubbling for the last 3 rounds, which will take 3 weeks
So, a 9-10 week season
Confusing? It helps me to think of actual teams, so here's an example where favorites win.
Rd 1
TC: Wiscy beats Minny, Iowa beats Nebraska
Indy: NW beats Illinois, IU beats Purdue
Detroit: Mich beats Sparty, Ohio beats PennSt, MD beats RU
Rd 2
TC: Wiscy beats Iowa, Minny beats Nebraska, the Huskers are eliminated, Wiscy is the TC champ
Indy: IU beats NW, Purdue beats Illinois, Illinoisis eliminated, Indiana is the Indy Champ
Detroit: Ohio beats M, Penn St beats MD, Sparty beats RU, Rutger is eliminated, Ohio is the Detroit Champ, advances to semis, and we are in option B
Rd 3 option B
TC: Minny beats Iowa, Iowa is eliminated, Minny to quarters
Indy: Purdue beats NW, Northwestern is eliminated, Purdue to quarters
Detroit: Mich beats PennSt, MD beats Sparty, Sparty and Penn St are eliminated
Rd 3.5B in Detroit (week 4): Mich beats MD, Turtles are eliminated, M to quarters
Rd 3.75B in…I dunno, St Louis? (Week 6) – Wiscy beats IU, Wiscy to semis and IU to quarters
Rd 4, week 7, in championship bubble
IU and Purdue cannot have rematch yet, therefore
Mich beats Purdue, Purdue is eliminated, M to semis
Minny beats IU, IU is eliminated, Gophers to semis
Rd5, week 8, still no rematches, therefore
M beats Wiscy, Wiscy eliminated after 1st loss, M to ‘ship
Ohio beats Minny, Minny eliminated, Ohio to ‘ship
No jug this year
Rd6, week9, finally a rematch
M-OSU for the big ten ‘ship
August 15th, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^
Was your college thesis this long???
August 15th, 2020 at 2:29 PM ^
Hey, it's Saturday. Many of us have the day off and don't have a Michigan football season to look forward to, so why not have fun with 'what if'?
That said, in the time it took to write the post I planted a rootbound blueberry shrub in my back yard today.
August 15th, 2020 at 3:08 PM ^
I had enough time to grow a blueberry bush from seed.
August 15th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
You lost me at Bats; what do you think caused this whole thing?
August 15th, 2020 at 11:32 PM ^
You kind of needed me too.
August 16th, 2020 at 10:30 AM ^
A lab in Wuhan
August 15th, 2020 at 2:27 PM ^
Sadly this whole thing can be thrown out at the idea of bubbles
Presidents and ADs have said they will not pay for them
August 15th, 2020 at 2:30 PM ^
Serious question; power 5 schools are likely to lose tens of millions of dollars just from TV income. They won’t “pay for bubbles”?
August 15th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
They might be willing, but the myth of amateurism goes out the window so it'll never happen.
August 15th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^
So we all have to wink and nod that some long ago ideal (amateurism) that has been rendered obsolete still functions just fine. Can't play in a bubble. Can't pay the players. Can't have the players organize. All in the name of pretending. You presume to criticize the great Oz? You ungrateful creatures.
August 15th, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
MSU's AD wants to have a Big Ten bubble for basketball. I think it is impossible for football. Too many players. There are over 1400 Big Ten football players.
August 16th, 2020 at 1:02 PM ^
Who would MSU’s players rape if they were in a bubble?
August 15th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^
Playing in a bubble is equivalent to studying for a semester abroad. It's doable while preserving a sense of amateurism.
August 15th, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^
I find it interesting that, of all things, a pandemic highlights - finally (in case you still thought there was such a thing and other issues didn't clue you in) and for all time, I would think - the sham of amateurism. There are quite a few things they could perhaps do in terms of risk mitigation for athletes, but so many of them would be tantamount to making an admission that the ADs and schools do not wish to make, even if it something most people already know quite well and can see quite plainly.
August 15th, 2020 at 2:29 PM ^
I think I would literally kill to have this much free time on my hands
August 15th, 2020 at 3:22 PM ^
You mean with weapons, or maybe your bare hands?
If it’s a weapon, what would you choose? Some type of gun, or blade, or perhaps a striking implement? And if it’s a gun, what make, caliber, & ammunition? Also tell us why you would choose that.
If it is with your bare hands, please tell us why you’re so angry. And if losing to OSU has any bearing on that.
August 15th, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^
All fair questions. I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old. I don’t even have the free time to think about how I’d like to respond to you
August 15th, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
When I had a 4 and 2 year old I didn't have time to even follow a sportsblog so you are spot on!.
August 15th, 2020 at 2:31 PM ^
Nick Baumgardner already explained why bubbles won’t work for college kids in general, and specifically CFB on I believe both of his podcasts.
August 15th, 2020 at 2:34 PM ^
It looks like this kept you entertained for a while, and that's what matters!
August 15th, 2020 at 2:46 PM ^
Unless I am reading wrong imho this idea would not work. Some teams play a 3 game season while others play 9-10.
August 15th, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
you've got it about right - some play 3, others play 5-7. Max would be 7 I think.
August 15th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^
Upvoted for name and avatar
August 15th, 2020 at 3:16 PM ^
What is a "bats" idea?
8.0.3August 15th, 2020 at 3:20 PM ^
Tl;dr
August 15th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^
I appreciate your candid honesty to start your post, but this may be the longest post in the history of MGOBLOG for crissakes!?
Are you related to a Dr. Sheldon Cooper?
August 15th, 2020 at 4:05 PM ^
Sorry OP, this is a bracket system. Calling it a Swiss had me very confused at first. One of the key features of the Swiss is that participants aren't eliminated, as you're doing after two games. Partial disclosure, I've directed national and regional Swiss system tournaments.
I think the biggest flaw as a system is there is a path to the semifinals from the East by going 2-0. Everyone else has to win 3 games.
Here's an alternative that's neater but would also be unpopular. Seed last season's CCG participants into the quarter finals. Create 3 pods of 4 teams each. Run double elimination brackets which lead to 2 teams qualifying out of each pod. Just as you did in your four team pods. Play your final bubble as you had it.
August 15th, 2020 at 4:45 PM ^
No need to be sorry, thanks for correcting and for coming up with a system that's a heckuva lot more concise and clear
August 15th, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
Thanks for all the thought put into this. If only there was such a plan like this in the works in early to mid July, it might have had a chance of at least getting off the ground.
I don't think the fake schedule put out by the B1G really had much thought put into it. I could elaborate on how a B1G/MAC union would have been better by playing in closest proximity. It could have saved the MAC, eliminate the cross over B1G games so each B1G school plays at least two MAC teams.
Anyway, this is all we have to comment on these days because Ann Arbor is going to be silent on what should have been home football Saturdays.
August 16th, 2020 at 2:12 PM ^
If only the B1G administration had given this that much thought...
August 15th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
Wtf is this
August 15th, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^
Great, lets kick this off.., first games Sat. Sept. 12th !!
August 15th, 2020 at 10:20 PM ^
+1 for your drunkenness -1 for WTF, +1 for dedication, -1 for putting UM at 0-2 vs OSU for the year... +1 for the copious amount of alcohol you must have consumed in the hours it took to write this out, -1 for not making it a diary... ahhhhh do I upvote you or downvote you!!!
+1 for creativity, totally unrealistic but if I’m drinking/smoking what you are I’d be excited too!
August 16th, 2020 at 9:11 AM ^
No bubble and no football. These are college kids and believe it or not safety and school comes before our need to watch them play a game
August 16th, 2020 at 1:07 PM ^
All that is needed is three games for all of college football.
The first weekend Oklahoma vs LSU and Alabama vs Clemson.
The winners play for the National Championship.
All other games would be pointless anyway.
August 16th, 2020 at 4:28 PM ^
Mine: Play division games only with one game every other week and constant saliva testing in between. East plays one weekend, West plays the next, so plenty of games to televise and provide the schools with revenue. Then have a championship game.